Featured Fellow: Urs Gasser
This is one of a series of posts on Berkman's fellows. The Berkman Center is home to approximately thirty fellows, all of whom focus their time and energy on issues concerning the Internet, including Internet governance, privacy concerns, intellectual property rights, competition policy and antitrust issues, electronic commerce, the role of new media and journalism proper, and digital media, among many others.
A Berkman faculty fellow and associate professor at the
You can check out Urs' full bio here. Below is a Q&A with Urs about his work conducted by Berkman intern Meg Moore.
Question: Could you describe how you became involved with the
Urs: I became involved with the
Q: You have written about digital media “post-Napster” and, specifically, iTunes. Do you feel current digital music services strike the desired balance between the music industry and consumers, or should the industry be aiming for something more?
Should the industry be aiming for something more? Yes, indeed. I don't think that the industry has yet embraced the new logic of the digitally networked environment - neither with regard to online distribution, as Terry Fisher's terrific book "Promises to Keep" demonstrates, nor with respect to the new modes of production of music and entertainment as most prominently described by Yochai Benkler. Most of the current business models that underlie online music services, in my view, are by and large based on an outdated, pre-Web 2.0 paradigm of "selling" individual copies.
Q: Do you feel that copyright law will always be struggling to keep up with innovation or could a shift, either in focus or approach, help mitigate the legal tension that always seems to accompany new technology?
Urs: Law in general and copyright law in particular will always struggle vis-à-vis new technological or social phenomena, because stakeholders that feel threatened by disruptive technologies will ultimately carry their conflicts into the legal arena and challenge the creators and marketers of these technologies. This dynamic is nicely discussed as a pattern that associates technological innovation by Deborah Spar in her fascinating book "Ruling the Waves." The legal system has then to decide whether a particular phenomenon (say, e.g., peer-to-peer file-sharing technology) can be dealt with based on existing norms, or whether the legal system in response has itself to innovate - e.g. by way of introducing new doctrines or by creating new statutes. Although we have seen in the past few years several responses by the legal system, particularly the copyright system, that many of us (including me) might dislike -- I mentioned anti-circumvention laws a la DMCA a minute ago, it is important to understand that the interaction - or "struggle", as you termed it - between the legal system and other social subsystems as such is not necessarily a bad thing. In fact, the law's ongoing struggle with new phenomena, including technological innovation, is an in-built feature of the legal system itself that ensures its own evolution - and that gives us, as societies, the opportunity to re-negotiate in a well-structured way previously reached social agreements and value judgments. Thus, the challenge is not to “avoid” these struggles, but to ensure that all relevant stakeholders - including, for instance, consumers - have equal "bargaining power", so to speak, in such controversies.
Q: Have European markets taken a different approach than the
Urs: Painted in broad brushes, it is fair to say that the
Q: You recently chaired a panel on the EU Copyright Directive. Skepticism was expressed concerning the benefits of copyright harmonization. Could you explain a little more about this approach to reforming copyright law? What would be the alternative to streamlining applicable laws through harmonization?
Urs: Let me first point out that directives are not aimed at making laws across EU states identical; rather, they are designed to harmonize them to create a level playing field. Second, it is important to note that the EUCD is arguably the most important, but not the only directive on copyright law in the EU. In fact, EU lawmakers have enacted several EU Directives aimed at vertical standardization, including for instance the Software Directive and controversial Database Directive. Here, a first problem arises: Since directives only set the stage and formulate a framework, they have to be transposed by each EU member state into their national laws - and "filled in" with details, so to speak. Now, we all know that law-making is a hugely costly process. Consider now that national law-makers across
The strongest argument against harmonization in the area of copyright law, though, is the fact that it has created significant asymmetries and imbalances. Most importantly, it significantly distorted - following the larger trend mentioned above - the traditional balance between the interests of copyright holders and users in favor of copyright holders. In addition, observers argue that harmonization (vis-à-vis the principle of territoriality of copyright law) has ironically produced negative effects on the internal market - a market it sought to strengthen.
I don't think harmonization is per se a bad tool - but it all depends on the scope of harmonization (do we only care about the harmonization of copyright holders interest, or are we also setting the standard for user rights, for instance), how harmonization (as a relatively slow process) can be synchronized with fast-paced technological development, and how many harmonization projects we launch. A real alternative would be competition among jurisdictions, i.e. a situation where the EU member states would create alternative and competing copyright regimes and market dynamics would tell us what and where the best system is (analogous to the Delaware effect). However, given the existing EU treaties and international obligations this scenario is only a theoretical alternative.
Q: What aspect of your Berkman Center-related work do you find the most rewarding?
Urs: It's simply wonderful to work with world-class scholars, leading activists, highly motivated students … from various disciplines across the Atlantic on some of the most pressing issues up for discussion in today's information society , hereby shaping to one degree or another the agenda of national and international policy-makers and hopefully contributing to making this a better world.
Q: Is there a current or upcoming project that you are particularly excited about?
Urs: I'm fortunate to be involved in a series of very exciting projects. Together with the