Re: [dvd-discuss] Slightly OT - Japanese copyrights

[Noah silva <nsilva(at)atari-source.com>]

Well by definition they shouldn't, but even if they did, you would need
the otiginal material to actually use them.  I think if it's able to be
called a derivitave work, then it also means they should own the rights to
it.  i.e. if the dialog is copyrighted because it is the same (despite
being translated) then they own a copy of it because the dialog is on the
original.  If it isn't, then I have nothing to worry about, so I think
either way should be fine.

 -- noah silva

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Ernest Miller wrote:

> I agree patches or "diffs" should be legal - but they must not contain any
> copyrighted material from the original themselves.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Noah silva" <nsilva@atari-source.com>
> To: <dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [dvd-discuss] Slightly OT - Japanese copyrights
> 
> 
> > I agree, I don't even think it would be a material change, but the wording
> > would be more clear, so as to stop some suites before they start
> >
> > Or you could distribute patches like I suggested.  This is difficult to do
> > with analog media though.
> >
> >  -- noah silva
> >
> > On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Ernest Miller wrote:
> >
> > > Space shifting is generally legal and if you subtitled a movie that you
> used
> > > yourself you probably would be fine.  However, distribute that movie and
> you
> > > will get in trouble (having violated both copying and distribution
> rights).
> > >
> > > This, of course, is what does not make sense to me.  Copying is legal
> for
> > > personal use (mostly) but not if you distribute it.  Why not get rid of
> > > copying as a violation at all?  Why not just have public distribution be
> the
> > > crime?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ballowe, Charles" <CBallowe@usg.com>
> > > To: <dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:50 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [dvd-discuss] Slightly OT - Japanese copyrights
> > >
> > >
> > > > I thought space shifting was legal under fair use - or is doing so
> only
> > > > legal if you do it yourself and not as a service to someone else?
> > > >
> > > > Where I can see some problems coming up is in laws that guarantee that
> > > > works of art viewed in the manner that the artist originally intended.
> > > > (I seem to remember a discussion of a law in Florida, I think, on this
> > > > list sometime last spring maybe)
> > > >
> > > > -Charlie
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Ernest Miller [mailto:ernest.miller@aya.yale.edu]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 10:44 AM
> > > > > To: dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
> > > > > Subject: Re: [dvd-discuss] Slightly OT - Japanese copyrights
> > > > >
> > > > > The subtitles would be a derivative work and illegal.  Copyright law
> > > > > prohibits copying.  If you make a copy and destroy the
> > > > > original, you still
> > > > > have violated copyright law.  I agree that this makes no
> > > > > sense, which is why
> > > > > I advocate eliminating the "right to copy" as part of copyright law.
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> 
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