RE: [dvd-discuss] DMCA Twist

[Richard Hartman <hartman(at)onetouch.com>]

Reverse engineering may still be legal ... but 
applying what you learn from that is no longer 
legal if what you learn is how to bypass some
form of protection that you reverse engineered.




-- 
-Richard M. Hartman
hartman@onetouch.com

186,000 mi/sec: not just a good idea, it's the LAW!



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael A Rolenz [mailto:Michael.A.Rolenz@aero.org]
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:57 AM
> To: dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
> Cc: C-FIT_Community@realmeasures.dyndns.org;
> C-FIT_Release_Community@realmeasures.dyndns.org;
> DMCA_Discuss@lists.microshaft.org; dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu;
> fairuse-discuss@mrbrklyn.com; owner-dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
> Subject: Re: [dvd-discuss] DMCA Twist
> 
> 
> Ironic....If successful, Apple should be suing Apple under 
> the DMCA since 
> they are doing what they claim is illegal...but hey remember 
> that reverse 
> engineering is legal under the DCMA isn't it? Maybe a class 
> action suit 
> should be brought by the old macintosh owners association
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Seth Johnson <seth.johnson@realmeasures.dyndns.org>
> Sent by: owner-dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
> 08/28/2002 09:48 PM
> Please respond to dvd-discuss
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> fairuse-discuss@mrbrklyn.com, DMCA_Discuss@lists.microshaft.org, 
> dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        [dvd-discuss] DMCA Twist
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> 
> (Forwarded from CYBERIA list)
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 11:51:06 +1000
> From: Simon Minahan <sminahan@BIGPOND.COM>
> To: CYBERIA-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM
> 
> CNET reports that Apple has reined in Other World Computers
> - an accredited Apple dealer and developer - from offering a
> patch to its new iDVD application:
> 
> "...At issue in the legal threat is Apple's well-received
> iDVD application, which permits users to burn DVDs only on
> internal drives manufactured by Apple. In unmodified form,
> it does not permit writing to external drives manufactured
> by third parties.
> 
> That means Macintosh owners with older computers or laptop
> computers, or people who opted not to buy the
> "Superdrive"-equipped Macs, could not use iDVD to save
> movies.
> 
> In response, Other World Computing began bundling a product
> called DVD Enabler with its external Mercury Pro DVD-R/RW
> FireWire drive. DVD Enabler modified iDVD so the application
> would save completed DVDs to a FireWire-connected drive...."
> 
> Apparently Apple threatened OWC - which immediately backed
> off - with a DMCA suit for circumventing copy control.
> 
> Trouble is, it seems to me the content being copy controlled
> wouldn't be Apple's - it would be the system owners
> (assuming no piracy, for argument's sake).  So how would
> DMCA apply? I appreciate OWC didn't feel like taking issue -
> but am I right in the view it could have - or am I missing
> something?
> 
> Full story at:
> http://news.com.com/2100-1023-955805.html
> Simon Minahan
> ............................................
> sminahan@eddress.com.au
> 
> The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
> hearkeneth unto counsel is wise. Pr 12:15
> 
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