October 31 2007 Conference Call

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Conference Call Notes

Drafted by Joe Andrieu, October 31, 2007


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  • Joe Andrieu
  • Dean Landsman
  • Iain Henderson
  • Drummond Reed
  • Charles Andres
  • Chris Carfi


VRM Working Group at Identity Commons

There is a draft working charter. What is the right way to move forward? Should the name be the "Project VRM Working Group"? The "VRM Working Group"?

Dean suggested the former, as the Berkman link is particularly important politically. Joe suggested that the goal of the working group is "VRM" rather than specifically the Berkman Project VRM.


Draft Mission Plan

Goal: revision process & traction to action items

What about funding? Does that require a fundraising exercise?

How is that intertwined with Berkman?

What about its consequences vis-a-vis a new non-profit corporation?


US? Non-profit? International?

It may make sense to charter abroad, but that has added complications.

Charles mentioned that with the 1394 and Infiniband group, with a large Asian component, were founded in the US.

Iain points out that the EU is leading in privacy issues, so if that's a priority, we might consider basing ourselves out there. Charles points out that its less of an issue of the laws in the EU, but rather an issue of what we promote and advocate.


Are we going to form a membership organization?

Not one for individual membership. We aren't really structured to be like the Sierra Club or the ACLU or the NAACP.

Corporate membership is the common approach for standards setting bodies. And somehow we should find a way to integrate open software.

Scope of Work

What level of "protocol" are we looking at? Data binding? Hand-shakes?

SAML talks about "profiles" in a way that might be what we would call "protocols".

The key is that the protocols start at the user-level, addressing user needs.

There will be more than just technical protocols, but also policies and ceremonies.

We want to start at the user level and build downward into viable implementations, using and re-using existing technology where we can.

Next Meeting

November 14, 2007