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* [[Politics and Technology of Control: Introduction|Jan 25]]
* [[Paradigms for Studying the Internet|Feb 1]]
* [[New Economic Models|Feb 8]]
* [[Peer Production and Collaboration|Feb 15]]
* [[Collective Action and Decision-making|Feb 22]]
* [[New and Old Media, Participation, and Information|Mar 1]]
* [[Law's Role in Regulating Online Conduct and Speech|Mar 8]]
* Mar 15 - ''No class''
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* [[Regulating Speech Online|Mar 22]]
* [[Internet Infrastructure and Regulation|Mar 29]]
* [[Copyright in Cyberspace|Apr 5]]
* [[Control and Code: Privacy Online|Apr 12]]
* [[Internet and Democracy|Apr 19]]
* [[Internet and Democracy: The Sequel|Apr 26]]
* [[Cybersecurity and Cyberwarfare|May 3]]
* [[Final Project|May 10]] - ''No class''
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'''March 22'''
The Internet has the potential to revolutionize public discourse. It is a profoundly democratizing force. Instead of large media companies and corporate advertisers controlling the channels of speech, anyone with an Internet connection can "become a town crier with a voice that resonates farther than it could from any soapbox."  Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. 884, 896-97 (1997). Internet speakers can reach vast audiences of readers, viewers, researchers, and buyers that stretch across real space borders, or they can concentrate on niche audiences that share a common interest or geographical location. What's more, with the rise of web 2.0, speech on the Internet has truly become a conversation, with different voices and viewpoints mingling together to create a single "work."  
The Internet has the potential to revolutionize public discourse. It is a profoundly democratizing force. Instead of large media companies and corporate advertisers controlling the channels of speech, anyone with an Internet connection can "become a town crier with a voice that resonates farther than it could from any soapbox."  Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. 884, 896-97 (1997). Internet speakers can reach vast audiences of readers, viewers, researchers, and buyers that stretch across real space borders, or they can concentrate on niche audiences that share a common interest or geographical location. What's more, with the rise of web 2.0, speech on the Internet has truly become a conversation, with different voices and viewpoints mingling together to create a single "work."  


With this great potential, however, comes new questions. What happens when anyone can publish to a national (and global) audience with virtually no oversight? How can a society protect its children from porn and its inboxes from spam?  Does defamation law apply to online publishers in the same way it applied to newspapers and other traditional print publications? Is online anonymity part of a noble tradition in political discourse stretching back to the founding fathers or the electronic equivalent of graffiti on the bathroom wall?  In this class, we will look at how law and social norms are struggling to adapt to this new electronic terrain.   
With this great potential, however, comes new questions. What happens when anyone can publish to a national (and global) audience with virtually no oversight? How can a society protect its children from porn and its inboxes from spam?  Does defamation law apply to online publishers in the same way it applied to newspapers and other traditional print publications? Is online anonymity part of a noble tradition in political discourse stretching back to the founding fathers or the electronic equivalent of graffiti on the bathroom wall?  In this class, we will look at how law and social norms are struggling to adapt to this new electronic terrain.   


== Readings ==
[http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/is2011/sites/is2011/images/IS2011-3.22.11-Regulating_Speech_Online.ppt.pdf Slides: Regulating Speech Online]


* [http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/25/technology/companies/25google.html?ref=weekinreview Larger Threat is Seen in Google Case NYT]
==Assignments==


* [http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2009/02/11/Two-Lawyers-Fight-Cyber-Bullying/index.html David Margolick, "Slimed Online," Portfolio.com, February 11, 2009, read all]
[[Assignments#Assignment_3:_Project_Outline|Assignment 3 due]]


* [http://www.citmedialaw.org/sites/citmedialaw.org/files/2007-11-08-AmendedComplaint.pdf Doe v. paulitwalnuts, et al., 3-07-CV-0909 CFD (D.Conn.), Complaint, filed 6/11/07, skim pp. 1-16 Warning:  explicit and disturbing language]
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== Readings ==


* [http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/03/a-friendly-exchange-about-the-future-of-online-liability.ars John Palfrey and Adam Thierer, "Dialogue:  The Future of Online Obscenity and Social Networks," Ars Technica, March 5, 2009, read all]  
* [http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1625820 David Ardia, Free Speech Savior or Shield for Scoundrels: An Empirical Study of Intermediary Immunity Under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act] (Parts I & II)
* [http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000230----000-.html Communications Decency Act § 230]
* [http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/25/technology/companies/25google.html Larger Threat is Seen in Google Case NYT]
* [http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/national-news/portfolio/2009/02/11/Two-Lawyers-Fight-Cyber-Bullying/index.html David Margolick, "Slimed Online," Portfolio.com, February 11, 2009, read all]
* [http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/03/a-friendly-exchange-about-the-future-of-online-liability.ars John Palfrey and Adam Thierer, "Dialogue:  The Future of Online Obscenity and Social Networks," Ars Technica, March 5, 2009, read all]


 
== Optional Readings ==
== Additional Resources ==


* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_v._American_Civil_Liberties_Union Wikipedia on Reno v. ACLU].
* [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_v._American_Civil_Liberties_Union Wikipedia on Reno v. ACLU].
* [http://www.paed.uscourts.gov/documents/opinions/07D0346P.pdf ACLU v. Gonzales], 478 F.Supp2d 775 (E.D.Pa. 2007), read pp. 1-7, 61-74, 82-83; skim pp. 74-81.
* [http://www.socialtext.net/codev2/index.cgi?free_speech Lawrence Lessig, Code 2.0, Chapter 12: Free Speech]
* [http://www.socialtext.net/codev2/index.cgi?free_speech Lawrence Lessig, Code 2.0, Chapter 12: Free Speech]
* [http://w2.eff.org/bloggers/lg/faq-defamation.php EFF Bloggers' FAQ: Online Defamation Law]
* [http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1689865 David Ardia, Reputation in a Networked World: Revisiting the Social Foundations of Defamation Law] (Part III)
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==Class Discussion ==


==Class Discussions ==
Regarding the AutoaAdmit case, does anyone have further details on what happened with Anthony Ciolli's countersuit against the two women and their legal advisor? For further reading on cyberbullying, defamation, privacy etc. an excellent book of essays is The Offensive Internet, edited by Saul Levmore and Martha Nussbaum.[[User:Mary Van Gils|Mary Van Gils]] 21:21, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Comments on class readings by D. Jodoin:


Out of respect and deference to the victims we have read about this week, I will avoid using anyone's names.  I can't help but think that due to the fact we are an internet published wiki that we are complicit - even if only to a minor extent - regardless of our intentions and motives. Jean Jacques Rousseau once wrote "Fame is but the breath of people, and that often unwholesome."
This comment really applies to a previous class, but you might be interested in reading about the latest counter-tactics in the struggle for a "borderless Internet" against government control in this article: [http://www.economist.com/node/18386151 Unorthodox links to the internet: Signalling dissent] [[User:Smithbc|Smithbc]] 16:56, 19 March 2011 (UTC)


I state this because there are two questions I am forced to ponder due to this week's readings.  By discussing events like this - in this forum - are we increasing the public awareness of the atrocities that occur as a result of the internet in hopes that we can work toward a positive change?  Or are we inadvertently playing into the hands of the anonymous "trolls" and their desire to wreak havoc on the lives of others purely for their own amusement; contributing to their desire to see their hateful words spread in the public forum?
Though the introduction to this session states that "nstead of large media companies and corporate advertisers controlling the channels of speech...", we've reached a point where intermediaries--Facebook, Google, etc--are essentially controlling online speech.  Our networks have landed in private, corporate, centralized locations. I hope that we'll be adding intermediary censorship to the discussion :) [[User:Jyork|Jyork]] 00:02, 22 March 2011 (UTC)


In class we have learned - through the progression of a series of study topics - that the internet provides a platform where people can create sites for an intended purposeYet often we find that users of those sites enjoy them for reasons the creators may not have envisioned. Sometimes users find new and better purposes for a site, other times the result is less desirable - the platforms being used to engage in socially unacceptable publication of content to unacceptable exhibitions of behavior to sometimes outright illegal acts. One could argue that this has always been the case in any forum. However, we have also seen how viral the internet can be in its ability to bring to national and sometimes international attention those topics, people, and events that once would have been left to obscurity.  
Another story in the vein of "AutoAdmit" out right now is at [http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/cut-and-die-the-web-loves-to-hate-rebecca-black-20110321-1c2tz.html 'Cut and die': the web loves to hate Rebecca Black] About a 13-year old cut-and-paste singer who has become popular on You-Tube for all the wrong reasons; she is receiving death threats via user comments and web discussions. [[User:Smithbc|Smithbc]] 00:23, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
   
To my knowledge, in US, you have different laws for intermediary liability for speech online (sec 230) and copyright (DMCA), maybe even more. In EU, there are 4 articles in one single act governing liability of ISPs. Especially for hosting providers one specific art. 14. For those interested, here is a link to Ecomerce Directive containing (see art. 12 to 15, hosting providers art. 14) [http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32000L0031:en:NOT]. Comparing art. 14(1)b and art. 14(2) of the EC directive with sec. 320 plus explanation of what is publisher and distributor liability from first reading, conclusion is that in EU, hosting provider would be liable under similarly as a distributor or publisher as in US. There are problems with EU legal framework and liability of ISPs and currently it is under review. If you read art. 14 you might realise what can be problem. There is no explanation of terms, such as 'actual knowledge'or 'expediously'. Or even how should 'notice and take down' procedure look like when comparing it to DMCA. It will be interesting to see how the law will change in future. Hopeully in near future:)As regard to google case in Italy, although I was aware of the issue, I did no read decision and can not say my opinion based only on the article read. However, based on my information, I would say that this was exceptional case in EU, and would not therefore make some outcome about threat in EU only based on this case.[[User:VladimirTrojak|VladimirTrojak]] 16:56, 22 March 2011 (UTC)


Do we take lessons from Apple and Microsoft in their pulling the porn apps and filtering of certain lewd search terms respectively?  Should we support their actions to serve as good citizens in their attempt to provide a product that they feel is in keeping with the social norms of the people they look to service?  Or should we protect intermediaries like Google, who seems content in serving up whatever content they have access to index?
FWIW, I meant not intermediary liability, but intermediary censorship; e.g., Amazon's takedown of Wikileaks or Facebook removing Egyptian protest groups.[[User:Jyork|Jyork]] 21:21, 22 March 2011 (UTC)


The public has a right to protect themselves from being exposed to inappropriate content. We also have the right to protect ourselves from public slander and libel. When you walk into a store and examine the magazine rack, you will quickly notice that magazines with adult content are wrapped with obscured plastic and kept on shelves with high wooden slats such that the content is not available to those who choose not to purchase it. What is wrong with that?  Where is my plastic wrapper hiding the offensive material that exists on the net?
I wonder whether Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act would follow the footsteps of so-called journalist's privilege. As the emergence of millions of amateur reporters and publishers, the conventional definition of journalist's privilege is rather obsolete now. Likewise, the act which was enacted more than a decade ago seems to not hold the effectiveness any more. There is literally a tremendous number of interactive computer service providers and we have witnessed numerous side-effects burgeoning with the widespread of the online communities. Would it be still okay to give immunity to these providers? --[[User:Yu Ri|Yu Ri]] 19:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)


And as intermediaries of content on the internet - from which they piggy back their revenue generating advertisements - shouldn't they also have responsibility in the content they serve to the public? Shouldn't the intermediaries be just as responsible for the content they serve to the public as those that created it?
[http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/is2011/User:Yu_Ri Yu Ri,] I am disappointed that we ran out of time in class to have the full discussion you propose. Perhaps we can continue in this forum.
From my perspective [http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000230----000-.html Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act] protecting internet intermediaries has had many undesirable unintended consequences. At the same time, however, it is impossible to know what today’s internet would be like if Section 230 were not made law and not have survived the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reno_v._American_Civil_Liberties_Union Reno v. ACLU] challenge. The internet and the offline world for that matter would surely be significantly different. 


--[[User:Lunatixcoder|Lunatixcoder]] 13:21, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
One thing that probably would have happened is that large numbers of companies that today provide internet based intermediary services would not be in the business because of the costs incurred due of the threat of law suits.


What if one of those companies that decided the costs related to the risk of litigation was too high was google? What if google’s investors decided they could make more money by investing in some other industry and chose not to fund google? How different would our world be? I think of things in the real world that might not be the same.


The example you cited of Apple pulling their apps with adult content is a tricky area and highlights the eroding division between the Internet and phones.   I was personally happy that Apple decided to pull those apps. However, I can't really figure out to defend my support for the move. Perhaps because I considered my phone as distinct from the Internet, I did not want obscene content diffusing into the App Store.  But smart phones are essentially computers now, so it is hard to justify regulating their content differently than the Internet.  I am inclined to think that phones are much more public since users carry them around all the time.  If someone wants to look at obscene content, traditionally he would be confined to the privacy of his home, but now with smart phones he could be browsing this content while sitting next to me on the train or in a coffee shop.  Even this distinction is weak, because people use computers in public as well.  I am curious how others might argue for or against Apple's move.  ([[User:Kaurigem|Kaurigem]] 02:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC))
For instance, what might have happened in Egypt if [http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20030485-503543.html Wael Ghonim] had not found a job at google and followed a different career path? Would the changes we are seeing all across the globe have happened if the social networking tools used so effectively by dissidents never came into existence without Section 230?


Very interesting questions and I’d like to hear your thoughts and those of others in the class. Thanks! --[[User:Gclinch|Gclinch]] 02:29, 23 March 2011 (UTC)


Comments by Paul Amante - I see both sides


This week's readings were very interesting.  The issues Google is having in Italy go back to some of the arguments made during our discussion related to Google in China.  I argued that China, a sovereign nation, had the right to pass laws and take actions they felt were in the best interest of their country.  Even if those actions are distasteful to us.  Italy has that same right.  It is interesting to see both countries want to limit, to different degrees and for different purposes, information available on the Internet.  The US, on the other hand, explicitly insulates Internet service providers from liability for content they make available.


One of the readings used an analogy that I found interesting. It likened Google to delivering offensive content to a mail man delivering an offensive letter. You can't hold the mailman accountable. The difference here is, Google has the ability to see what the letter states and has the opportunity to decide whether or not to deliver it. Not only do they deliver it, they make it available worldwide. The mail man does not have that ability.
A very interesting study on 'Four Phases of Internet Regulation'. It talk about how the concept of internet regulation has changed since its early day to present times:
[http://www.law.harvard.edu/faculty/faculty-workshops/palfrey.faculty.workshop.summer.2010.pdf Four Phases of Internet Regulation][[User:syedshirazi|SyedShirazi]] 21:53, 22 March 2011 (UTC)


In the United States, filtering content goes against our very fiber.  Our free and open society and freedom of speech are a corner stone of our national personality.  Although I believe Google should exercise good judgment, the truth of the matter is that the law protects them from liability and until the law is changed, we must hope Google uses good judgment in the US.  In other countries, where free speech is not an absolute right, Google must obey laws in those countries or stop doing business in them.


Hi Paul!  I wanted to point out something regarding the argument that you cannot hold the mail man responsible for the content they deliver.  In fact there are specific regulations that prevent the use of the mail in openly transmitting pornographic material.  There are actually many other regulations regarding the proper use of the mail service.  The postal service takes this obligation very seriously and has an entire department established that does nothing but investigate potential abuses of the regulations.  [https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/ USPS Inspection Service Website] Just take a look at the investigations link and you can see all the things they as intermediaries will go after you for. --[[User:Lunatixcoder|Lunatixcoder]] 20:33, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
In professor Lessig’s [http://www.socialtext.net/codev2/index.cgi?free_speech Chapter 12: Free Speech] he makes the well reasoned proposal that a system to protect children from unwanted speech on the internet would be to implement the browser tag <H2M>. I well understand his reasoning and it makes a great deal of sense. In suggesting how to accomplish universal acceptance of this technique professor Lessig says, “This is the role for government.


Comment by Nick Siemaska - Regulating Speech Online
Now I haven’t finished his book and knowing how well he backs his arguments I won’t be surprised to find he has tackled this question but until I get there I must ask: Do we really want government to get into the business of legislating actual code?


In democracies across the world, freedom of speech has proved to be an incredible right that has maintained societal stablity, innovation, and equality. This right, however, is has been and continues to be a hotly debated issue with respects to its regultaion. In the United States, for example, there are many laws the prohibit speech if it is defamatory in nature. Regulatory laws like these protect the safety and integrity of individuals that would otherwise be harmed by libel or slander. But laws like these are continuously contested on whether they infringe on freedom of speech or don't go far enough to protect individuals from false, defamatory speech.  
Professor Lessig’s point that “code is law” teaches us that the code writer can be the secret hand that regulates us by the choices made when programs are written. For instance when we are in a virtual environment we are limited in what we can do substantially by the choices that the programmer has made when she wrote the program.  I think it is the legitimate role of government to protect us from the undue influence of the coder, especially when the software involved might be used by an intermediary who has been granted special status by [http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode47/usc_sec_47_00000230----000-.html Communications Decency Act § 230.


The internet is a new frontier testing these boundaries. The article in which Google executives were convicted in an Italian court for breaking Italian privacy laws seems to be less about individual rights and responsibilities, and more about those rights with regards to corporations. Do corporations have the responsibility to protect the rights of people that have access to their service? or do corporations have a right to maintain their ethical responsibilities to their business? I think the issue with Google and Italy's privacy laws forces us to ask who is responsible?  
I’m not so sure that we should carry the logic to the next level by saying that it is government’s role to actually dictate aspects of code. Classmates: what do you think? --[[User:Gclinch|Gclinch]] 01:49, 23 March 2011 (UTC)


In the case of the personal defamation against two Yale law students, internet users worldwide are acutely aware of this sensitive and personal issue. Any individual can ask themselves what they would want if they were confronted with a similar issue as the Yale students. Wouldn't you, the individual, want some sort course of action to take information down about yourself that could be harmful to your future success, especially if that information was untrue? If we, the people, were granted this opportunity, could it have an overbearing effect on companies that were supplying this information with the potential glut of frivolous complaints?
Recently during the height of confusion about the disasters in Japan there was a case involving the posting of a highly offensive Youtube video by a UCLA student that at best insensitively mocked Asian peers.  While the school chose not to take disciplinary action claiming that her video did not violate school policy, the community at large took action by shunning and harassing her to the point she withdrew from the school. UCLA is also being criticized by academics of race and gender stating that the objectification of Asians in the video is harmful and displays a deep rooted often overlooked racism that falls outside of the black/white paradigm. It has been recommended that UCLA should promote a more multicultural understanding and sensitivity by introducing mandatory courses and/or workshops.  I understand how this video and the girl's views are protected as free speech regardless of how repugnant her words are, but I also find it deeply disturbing that the video went viral mainly due to morbid curiosity.  A good analysis of the deeper harmful racist views and effeccts can be read here [http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2011/03/22/ucla_student_s_youtube_video_illustrates_many_asian_racial_stereotypes?loc=interstitialskip UCLA Student's Youtube Video Illustrates Many Asain Racial Stereotypes].  While there may be no legal action that can be taken toward a video of this nature, we as a culture unwittingly make it popular and far reaching through multiple views and backlash videos which is something I think we should all think about before we click on that next "shocking" link.  With such ease of access to such content on the internet I think that there comes a personal responsibility as to what goes viral for the wrong reasons, and what just gets lost in the far corners of the internet. [[User:Deinous|Deinous]] 02:14, 25 March 2011 (UTC)


--[[User:Nsiemaska|Nsiemaska]] 22:26, 9 March 2010 (UTC)


'''Video Introduction by Rohit Chopra''':
This article from the NY Times takes issues from the AutoAdmit case even farther. It deals with teens, sexually explicit photos and texting. Again, what speech is protected? What is not? What about cyberbulling among teens as opposed to adults? Is there any kind of legal relief that the target can seek?  http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/27/us/27sexting.html
It is my attempt to introduce the class using a video mail. Please click on the link to view [http://www.tokbox.com/vm/apzp1d1o15tx]. Let me know if anyone has any problems. I hope you enjoy it. Thanks.
--[[User:SCL|SCL]] 14:00, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


== Links from Class ==
== Links from Class ==
Slides for today's class: [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/is2011/sites/is2011/images/IS2011-3.22.11-Regulating_Speech_Online.ppt.pdf http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/is2011/sites/is2011/images/IS2011-3.22.11-Regulating_Speech_Online.ppt.pdf]

Latest revision as of 16:59, 17 January 2013

March 22

The Internet has the potential to revolutionize public discourse. It is a profoundly democratizing force. Instead of large media companies and corporate advertisers controlling the channels of speech, anyone with an Internet connection can "become a town crier with a voice that resonates farther than it could from any soapbox." Reno v. ACLU, 521 U.S. 884, 896-97 (1997). Internet speakers can reach vast audiences of readers, viewers, researchers, and buyers that stretch across real space borders, or they can concentrate on niche audiences that share a common interest or geographical location. What's more, with the rise of web 2.0, speech on the Internet has truly become a conversation, with different voices and viewpoints mingling together to create a single "work."

With this great potential, however, comes new questions. What happens when anyone can publish to a national (and global) audience with virtually no oversight? How can a society protect its children from porn and its inboxes from spam? Does defamation law apply to online publishers in the same way it applied to newspapers and other traditional print publications? Is online anonymity part of a noble tradition in political discourse stretching back to the founding fathers or the electronic equivalent of graffiti on the bathroom wall? In this class, we will look at how law and social norms are struggling to adapt to this new electronic terrain.

Slides: Regulating Speech Online

Assignments

Assignment 3 due


Readings

Optional Readings


Class Discussion

Regarding the AutoaAdmit case, does anyone have further details on what happened with Anthony Ciolli's countersuit against the two women and their legal advisor? For further reading on cyberbullying, defamation, privacy etc. an excellent book of essays is The Offensive Internet, edited by Saul Levmore and Martha Nussbaum.Mary Van Gils 21:21, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

This comment really applies to a previous class, but you might be interested in reading about the latest counter-tactics in the struggle for a "borderless Internet" against government control in this article: Unorthodox links to the internet: Signalling dissent Smithbc 16:56, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Though the introduction to this session states that "nstead of large media companies and corporate advertisers controlling the channels of speech...", we've reached a point where intermediaries--Facebook, Google, etc--are essentially controlling online speech. Our networks have landed in private, corporate, centralized locations. I hope that we'll be adding intermediary censorship to the discussion :) Jyork 00:02, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Another story in the vein of "AutoAdmit" out right now is at 'Cut and die': the web loves to hate Rebecca Black About a 13-year old cut-and-paste singer who has become popular on You-Tube for all the wrong reasons; she is receiving death threats via user comments and web discussions. Smithbc 00:23, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

To my knowledge, in US, you have different laws for intermediary liability for speech online (sec 230) and copyright (DMCA), maybe even more. In EU, there are 4 articles in one single act governing liability of ISPs. Especially for hosting providers one specific art. 14. For those interested, here is a link to Ecomerce Directive containing (see art. 12 to 15, hosting providers art. 14) [1]. Comparing art. 14(1)b and art. 14(2) of the EC directive with sec. 320 plus explanation of what is publisher and distributor liability from first reading, conclusion is that in EU, hosting provider would be liable under similarly as a distributor or publisher as in US. There are problems with EU legal framework and liability of ISPs and currently it is under review. If you read art. 14 you might realise what can be problem. There is no explanation of terms, such as 'actual knowledge'or 'expediously'. Or even how should 'notice and take down' procedure look like when comparing it to DMCA. It will be interesting to see how the law will change in future. Hopeully in near future:)As regard to google case in Italy, although I was aware of the issue, I did no read decision and can not say my opinion based only on the article read. However, based on my information, I would say that this was exceptional case in EU, and would not therefore make some outcome about threat in EU only based on this case.VladimirTrojak 16:56, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

FWIW, I meant not intermediary liability, but intermediary censorship; e.g., Amazon's takedown of Wikileaks or Facebook removing Egyptian protest groups.Jyork 21:21, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

I wonder whether Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act would follow the footsteps of so-called journalist's privilege. As the emergence of millions of amateur reporters and publishers, the conventional definition of journalist's privilege is rather obsolete now. Likewise, the act which was enacted more than a decade ago seems to not hold the effectiveness any more. There is literally a tremendous number of interactive computer service providers and we have witnessed numerous side-effects burgeoning with the widespread of the online communities. Would it be still okay to give immunity to these providers? --Yu Ri 19:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Yu Ri, I am disappointed that we ran out of time in class to have the full discussion you propose. Perhaps we can continue in this forum.

From my perspective Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act protecting internet intermediaries has had many undesirable unintended consequences. At the same time, however, it is impossible to know what today’s internet would be like if Section 230 were not made law and not have survived the Reno v. ACLU challenge. The internet and the offline world for that matter would surely be significantly different.

One thing that probably would have happened is that large numbers of companies that today provide internet based intermediary services would not be in the business because of the costs incurred due of the threat of law suits.

What if one of those companies that decided the costs related to the risk of litigation was too high was google? What if google’s investors decided they could make more money by investing in some other industry and chose not to fund google? How different would our world be? I think of things in the real world that might not be the same.

For instance, what might have happened in Egypt if Wael Ghonim had not found a job at google and followed a different career path? Would the changes we are seeing all across the globe have happened if the social networking tools used so effectively by dissidents never came into existence without Section 230?

Very interesting questions and I’d like to hear your thoughts and those of others in the class. Thanks! --Gclinch 02:29, 23 March 2011 (UTC)


A very interesting study on 'Four Phases of Internet Regulation'. It talk about how the concept of internet regulation has changed since its early day to present times: Four Phases of Internet RegulationSyedShirazi 21:53, 22 March 2011 (UTC)


In professor Lessig’s Chapter 12: Free Speech he makes the well reasoned proposal that a system to protect children from unwanted speech on the internet would be to implement the browser tag <H2M>. I well understand his reasoning and it makes a great deal of sense. In suggesting how to accomplish universal acceptance of this technique professor Lessig says, “This is the role for government.”

Now I haven’t finished his book and knowing how well he backs his arguments I won’t be surprised to find he has tackled this question but until I get there I must ask: Do we really want government to get into the business of legislating actual code?

Professor Lessig’s point that “code is law” teaches us that the code writer can be the secret hand that regulates us by the choices made when programs are written. For instance when we are in a virtual environment we are limited in what we can do substantially by the choices that the programmer has made when she wrote the program. I think it is the legitimate role of government to protect us from the undue influence of the coder, especially when the software involved might be used by an intermediary who has been granted special status by Communications Decency Act § 230.

I’m not so sure that we should carry the logic to the next level by saying that it is government’s role to actually dictate aspects of code. Classmates: what do you think? --Gclinch 01:49, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Recently during the height of confusion about the disasters in Japan there was a case involving the posting of a highly offensive Youtube video by a UCLA student that at best insensitively mocked Asian peers. While the school chose not to take disciplinary action claiming that her video did not violate school policy, the community at large took action by shunning and harassing her to the point she withdrew from the school. UCLA is also being criticized by academics of race and gender stating that the objectification of Asians in the video is harmful and displays a deep rooted often overlooked racism that falls outside of the black/white paradigm. It has been recommended that UCLA should promote a more multicultural understanding and sensitivity by introducing mandatory courses and/or workshops. I understand how this video and the girl's views are protected as free speech regardless of how repugnant her words are, but I also find it deeply disturbing that the video went viral mainly due to morbid curiosity. A good analysis of the deeper harmful racist views and effeccts can be read here UCLA Student's Youtube Video Illustrates Many Asain Racial Stereotypes. While there may be no legal action that can be taken toward a video of this nature, we as a culture unwittingly make it popular and far reaching through multiple views and backlash videos which is something I think we should all think about before we click on that next "shocking" link. With such ease of access to such content on the internet I think that there comes a personal responsibility as to what goes viral for the wrong reasons, and what just gets lost in the far corners of the internet. Deinous 02:14, 25 March 2011 (UTC)


This article from the NY Times takes issues from the AutoAdmit case even farther. It deals with teens, sexually explicit photos and texting. Again, what speech is protected? What is not? What about cyberbulling among teens as opposed to adults? Is there any kind of legal relief that the target can seek? http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/27/us/27sexting.html --SCL 14:00, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Links from Class

Slides for today's class: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/is2011/sites/is2011/images/IS2011-3.22.11-Regulating_Speech_Online.ppt.pdf