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* Motivations
* Motivations
** We have these three ideas of the movement. Gift econoimcs. Market economics. A cultural movement. Let's get Mako talking on this.
** We have these three ideas of the movement. Gift econoimcs. Market economics. A cultural movement. Let's get Mako talking on this.
* Proposition: writing free software and working for a proprietary software company is analogous to doing academic research and working R&D for a corporation.
* Proposition: writing free software and working for a proprietary software company is analogous to doing academic research and working R&D for a corporation.
* Proposition: All of the grand ideas of gift economics really just collapse into market economics. Lerner. (In the beginning, this was *the* explanation. Has it been subsumed by a cultural analysis of the movement?)
* Proposition: All of the grand ideas of gift economics really just collapse into market economics. Lerner. (In the beginning, this was *the* explanation. Has it been subsumed by a cultural analysis of the movement?)
* Paradoxes of the FOSS movement
 
** Stallman v. Raymond
* Proposition: Despite Moglen's insistence, Kelty implies that FOSS took off only because Eric S. Raymond turned FOSS into a non-ideological movement.
** Inclusive movement v. Elitist
 
* Consider these issues in the FOSS world
 
** Stallman's ideology v. Raymond's practical approach
*** Do Stallman and Moglen represent a generational difference in views of FOSS?
** Inclusive movement v. Elitist scene


'''STAGE TWO'''
'''STAGE TWO'''
* What are the characteristics of a (1) successful FOSS project, (2) successful FOSS process?
* What are the characteristics of a (1) successful FOSS project, (2) successful FOSS process?
(give a spiel on CATB)
* CATB: Comparing the "bazaar" (FOSS) model to the "cathedral" (proprietary) model, the main advantage of FOSS is the maxim, "with enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow"


* Isn't it bizarre that a movement that, in some sense, attempts to destroy IP in software, is so heavily dependent on IP law? It seems pretty interested in the law -- can we speculate as to why this is so?
* Isn't it bizarre that a movement that, in some sense, attempts to destroy IP in software, is so heavily dependent on IP law? It seems pretty interested in the law -- can we speculate as to why this is so?
** Kelty says, "free software ''hacks'' IP law". Ch. 6.


'''STAGE THREE'''
'''STAGE THREE'''


* Regarding open source governance, what are the characteristics we've learned about projects and processes that make open source development successsful?
* Regarding open source governance, what are the characteristics we've learned about projects and processes that make open source development successsful?
* Mako on the GPL v3 development process
* Mako on the GPL v3 development process
* If we wanted to create an open source law project, how would it work?
 
* If we wanted to create an open source law project, how would it work? Can we learn anything from Wikipedia on this?
 
* Regarding CATB, open source law complicates matters because law inloves questions of policy choice?
 
* Kelty says that unlike other "movements", FOSS is held together and progresses by the practices not the ideologies. How does this translate to open source law?
 
* Do either of these statements translate to open source law?
** ESR: Open source is an evolutionary necessary outcome of the natuarl tendancy of human societies toward economies of abundance.
** Stallman: Open source is a defense of the fundamental freedoms of creativity and speech.
*** law as a "speech act" ?
** Dulles: Free software is about self-determination.
 
* Maybe open source law is destined to fail as a concept because law is too entrenched in society as outside the reaches of laymen, who don't believe they have any place to dictate its maxims.

Revision as of 13:21, 9 February 2009

STAGE ONE

  • Motivations
    • We have these three ideas of the movement. Gift econoimcs. Market economics. A cultural movement. Let's get Mako talking on this.
  • Proposition: writing free software and working for a proprietary software company is analogous to doing academic research and working R&D for a corporation.
  • Proposition: All of the grand ideas of gift economics really just collapse into market economics. Lerner. (In the beginning, this was *the* explanation. Has it been subsumed by a cultural analysis of the movement?)
  • Proposition: Despite Moglen's insistence, Kelty implies that FOSS took off only because Eric S. Raymond turned FOSS into a non-ideological movement.
  • Consider these issues in the FOSS world
    • Stallman's ideology v. Raymond's practical approach
      • Do Stallman and Moglen represent a generational difference in views of FOSS?
    • Inclusive movement v. Elitist scene

STAGE TWO

  • What are the characteristics of a (1) successful FOSS project, (2) successful FOSS process?
  • CATB: Comparing the "bazaar" (FOSS) model to the "cathedral" (proprietary) model, the main advantage of FOSS is the maxim, "with enough eyeballs, all bugs are shallow"
  • Isn't it bizarre that a movement that, in some sense, attempts to destroy IP in software, is so heavily dependent on IP law? It seems pretty interested in the law -- can we speculate as to why this is so?
    • Kelty says, "free software hacks IP law". Ch. 6.

STAGE THREE

  • Regarding open source governance, what are the characteristics we've learned about projects and processes that make open source development successsful?
  • Mako on the GPL v3 development process
  • If we wanted to create an open source law project, how would it work? Can we learn anything from Wikipedia on this?
  • Regarding CATB, open source law complicates matters because law inloves questions of policy choice?
  • Kelty says that unlike other "movements", FOSS is held together and progresses by the practices not the ideologies. How does this translate to open source law?
  • Do either of these statements translate to open source law?
    • ESR: Open source is an evolutionary necessary outcome of the natuarl tendancy of human societies toward economies of abundance.
    • Stallman: Open source is a defense of the fundamental freedoms of creativity and speech.
      • law as a "speech act" ?
    • Dulles: Free software is about self-determination.
  • Maybe open source law is destined to fail as a concept because law is too entrenched in society as outside the reaches of laymen, who don't believe they have any place to dictate its maxims.