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Re: [dvd-discuss] Movie Downloads, automatically illegal?

A Private subscription library...common in England I believe and also in the 
USA until the public library system became widespread (thank you ANdrew 

On 3 Aug 2002 at 4:49, Tom wrote:

Date sent:      	Sat, 3 Aug 2002 04:49:45 +0200
From:           	Tom <tom@lemuria.org>
To:             	dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
Subject:        	Re: [dvd-discuss] Movie Downloads, automatically illegal?
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> On Sat, Aug 03, 2002 at 12:13:34AM +0200, Lars Gaarden wrote:
> > I think the sentral issue was that mp3.com thought they had a right to
> > distribute copies of music to people who owned CDs containing the same
> > music. i.e., that the fair use rights you have when you own a CD could
> > be transferred to mp3.com. When they discovered that they did not have
> > this right, they tried reaching licensing deals with the major studios
> > but failed.
> > 
> > Alas, my googling skills seems to be failing. Does anyone have a link
> > to the my.mp3.com ruling?
> Hm, actually, that give me an idea:
> video rental stores in germany work (AFAIK, IANAL) by setting up a
> club, i.e. a legal entity, that owns the tapes. to rent stuff from the
> store, you must become a member, and therefore co-owner of the tapes,
> and that is what makes it legal for you to take them home and for the
> store to distribute them, because legally speaking there is no
> distribution and no renting.
> why not set up something like that? we create a world-wide legal body
> and the membership fee is that all your CDs become property of that
> body. in return, you become co-owner of everything the body owns.
> therefore, it should be legal to send .mp3 files from member A to
> member B because they both own the copy of the work in question.
> Lawyers on this list, take it apart. :)
> If you can't, we should set this body up, just to piss off the RIAA.
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