RE: [dvd-discuss] DoS attack on RIAA website

[Richard Hartman <hartman(at)onetouch.com>]

Why assume _another_ country.  As you said, the same
servers sometimes host multiple different "sites".  
The same scenario could occur right here where major
business sites may be sharing servers with something
targetted for the RIAA.

This legislation is ill (if at all) thought out, and I 
just hope that nothing _too_ serious results from whatever
incident brings this back to the attention of the idiots
who pass it.

-- 
-Richard M. Hartman
hartman@onetouch.com

186,000 mi./sec ... not just a good idea, it's the LAW!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glendon M. Gross [mailto:gross@xinetd.ath.cx]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 5:57 PM
> To: dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
> Subject: RE: [dvd-discuss] DoS attack on RIAA website
> 
> 
> Interestingly,  this could [in theory] cause the RIAA to be 
> responsible for
> another country declaring war on the U.S.  (My, what model 
> citizens they
> are.)  Do you think the RIAA could then be prosecuted under 
> the laws of the
> country where they [hypothetically] caused the Denial of 
> Service Attack?
> For example, suppose their efforts damaged a financial website
> that was hosted on the same server without their knowledge, 
> costing millions
> of dollars.  Would the owners of the website
> that was victimized have any recourse?
> 
> It's possible to even imagine a case where RIAA causes a DoS 
> in some public
> infrastructure of another country....
> or even inadvertently interferes with military 
> communications.   Sounds like
> the material for a Sci-Fi novel,
> except it actually seems possible with the current trends 
> toward misguided
> enforcement of copyright.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
> [mailto:owner-dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu]On Behalf Of Jack Oskay
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 6:43 PM
> To: dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
> Subject: Re: [dvd-discuss] DoS attack on RIAA webstie
> 
> 
> This entire proposed law makes me wonder about something.  
> How are they
> going to enforce this outside of the US?  I can just see the 
> RIAA sending a
> DoS attack on another country's site.  What about countries 
> that are not
> friendly with the US or do not have agreements in this area?  
> I can hear it
> now "Sorry about flooding your connections with an attack.  
> It was to stop
> your citizens from copying music not an actual attack against you".  I
> wonder if a country's national song could be considered IP 
> and then DoS if
> sent out.
> At 05:15 PM 7/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >What a wicked idea there....if the MP3 is legal but shows up on their
> "radar
> >screen" as illegal they "TAKE IT DOWN" and become worse than 
> the script
> >kiddies
> >
> >On 31 Jul 2002 at 1:09, Tom wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>