Re: [dvd-discuss] Digital Rights Management Gedanken Experiments

[microlenz(at)earthlink.net]

I'm sorry if I did not make my intent clear. In the silly example I 
pondered I can't see any nonstupid way to administer it much less 
what "right" is being protected. What I was wondering if what other  
"Gedanken experiments on how to demonise the entire concept of 
DRM, and make any researcher who dabbles in the field look like a 
child  molester..." others could come up with.

If people want to talk about Digital Rights Managment, then they 
D*MN well better define just what those "rights" are and what is 
acceptable ways to manage them. 

I agree with your statements regarding "NO digital rights" but there 
are others who do not...and until they are shown the errors of their 
ways by demonstrating that all their socalled rights and 
management schemes have idiotic consequences or better still 
contradictory ones these people will continue to create 
mischievious and devious schemes.


> <microlenz@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > As I started my morning commute onto the vast parking lots known as
> > the LA Freeways, I pondered some of the implications of DRM upon
> > "normal usage" of things. By Normal, I mean as we have used things
> > before.
> > 
> 
> Maybe I'm just reiterating what we keep on saying here, but thinking
> up acceptable DRM systems is the wrong way to go. We should be working
> out how to demonise the whole concept of DRM in the eyes of the
> public. Somehow, DRM needs to be seen by Joe Public as on a par with
> child pornography.
> 
> Nothing less will kill it sufficiently dead.
> 
> There are no 'Digital Rights' so there can be no 'Digital Rights
> Management'. The only rights a copyright holder has are: 1) The right
> to prevent others making money from copying his/her works. 2) The
> right to prevent others cutting into his/her profits by copying
>    those works.
> ..these apply just as much to works on digital media as they do to
> analogue.
> 
> See Napster. They were judged to have copied digital works from CDs
> illegally. There are no anti-copy systems on CDs, but the case was
> decided in favour of the "rights holders". End of story.
> 
> No need for DRM then. Double end of story!
> 
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> 
> Gedanken experiments on how to demonise the entire concept of DRM, and
> make any researcher who dabbles in the field look like a child
> molester are welcome.
> 
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