Re: [dvd-discuss] Re: Sen. Hollings plans tointroduceDMCAsequel : The SSSCA

[Tom <tom(at)lemuria.org>]

On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 06:59:23AM -0400, Scott A Crosby wrote:
> BTW[*], it looks like we tried the Cowardice solution, many times... It
> got us the first world trace center bombing, the army training
> headquarters in saudi arabia bombed, two embassies bombed, and the USS
> Cole. A couple billion dollars in damage, and 250 lives lost. 

ehm, that is not true. in the questionable timespan, the US has
missiled villages in syria or lebanon (forgot which, sorry), bombarded
a pharma factory in sudan ("chemical weapons factory" - weird how none
of the independent investigators found even traces of hints), sent
missiles and bombers into various souvereign nations, including
afghanistan, and supported the israel government with weapons and money,
knowing perfectly that at least some of that will be responsible for
the death of innocents in palestina.

for every dead you suffered on tuesday, you've already taken tenfold
revenge during the past few decades.



> Look at what our noble gesture, cowardice---being above destroying him and
> his supporters has gotten us this this time.

that wasn't a noble gesture, it was pathetic failure. it's not that you
didn't try. there have been several attempts to assassinate or kill Bin
Laden.



> To bring us even peripherally on topic, should the EFF have countersued
> the RIAA over Felton? Self-defense doesn't involve agression right? So
> hasn't EFF made a moral mistake in going on the offense?

there's a difference between taking someone to court and killing a
family father because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
there is no such difference between an american family father and a
palestin/syrian/afghan family father.


> But, realistically, I think that our gov't will, unfortunately, do the
> military action thing, I just hope that it is as limited an extent as
> possible. Lobbing a few bombs on a war-torn country thats practically in
> the stone age is just sad.

but it looks good on television, which is exactly why it'll happen.



> If anyone else goes around smugly saying that we, at some level, deserved
> what happened, I will procmail you so I don't have to hear any more shit.

this is not about "deserving". no questions asked that those who were
killed did not deserve it. ignoring that, you as a nation had it
coming. the only reason why you're not at war with 20+ foreign nations
is that they're too small and too afraid. but just because you're the
largest bully on the schoolyard doesn't mean you're always right. if
you're looking for the ones ultimately responsible for the gruesame
tuesday events, then I suggest you arrest and shoot your presidents and
foreign affairs guys of the past 50 years or so.