Question 2

There are many different conceptions of what ICANN as an organization should do, and as many different visions of what membership will entail. To get a deeper understanding of those visions, we ask: What should ICANN do for its members, and what will members do for the organization?


Colin Gan | jeff Williams | Paul Stauffer | Joop Teernstra | Richard.SWETENHAM@LUX.DG13.cec.be | Greg Skinner | "A.M. Rutkowski" | BRPWIT@aol.com | James JF Forest | rcbartel

Colin Gan

Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:11:23 +0800 (SGT)
1) What should ICANN do for its members ?

ICANN should provide the following for its members:

a) due recognition of ICANN membership internationally by setting up
   strict regulations on the qualifications of members-to-be, be it
   academically or professionally e.g. IEEE, ACM etc.  This will ensure
   consistent high standards in the ICANN membership.

b) local chapter regulations for those countries interested to set up
   local chapters of the ICANN e.g.  minimum number of members, petition
   procedures etc.  This would globalise ICANN and bring ICANN's presence
   to the public.

c) setting up different discussion mailing groups pertaining to IP address
   space allocation, protocol parameter assignment, domain name system
   management and root server system management so that the general public
   as well as ICANN members subscribed to the mailing lists will be able
   to contribute their ideas on different issues like support
   organizations etc sincerely and constructively.  

2) What will members do for the organization ?

Members will do the following for ICANN:

a) contribute their ideas on the formation of support organizations etc
   sincerely and constructively to ICANN through relevant mailing lists
   that have been set up. 

b) spread the presence of ICANN and its works to the public by word of
   mouth, emails etc so that the public will come to appreciate and
   understand the importance of the work undertaken by ICANN.

c) share their precious experience on IP address space allocation,
   protocol parameter assignment, domain name system management and root
   server system management should they encounter any.
 
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jeff Williams

Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:31:47 +0000
Wendy, Jon and all,

Berkman Center Study wrote:

> There are many different conceptions of what ICANN as an organization
> should do, and as many different visions of what membership will entail.
> To get a deeper understanding of those visions, we ask: What should ICANN
> do for its
> members, and what will members do for the organization?

 1.) The ICANN should serve its members in providing for implementation
of policy set by, and voted upon by the membership (Stakeholders)
as is clearly outlined in the NTIA's White Paper.

2.) The ICANN Board should provide any and all relevant information upon
request within a reasonable amount of time to any and all members.

3,) The ICANN Board should at all times be accountable to the membership
     only and protect and serve its members as it's members decide that
     should be done with respect to policy.  The ICANN Board MUST take
     direction from its members and implement those policies as the
     membership so votes to have as policies.

4.)  The ICANN should at all times communicate openly and freely with
      any and all members.  And insure that those communications be made
      available to the public at all times.  That all meetings be conducted in
      such a manner public review or participation is made available.

MEMBERS TO THE ICANN:

1.)  The members must insure that the board is acting is a responsible
       and proper manner at all times.  Any and all deviations should be
       noted if they are in difference with policy and have been adequately
       aired and reviewed.

2.) The member should, when possible and appropriate assist the ICANN
     Board in such capacities as to further the implementation or engender
     good two way communications between itself and the board as well as
     with the global public.

3.) Members should pay their dues on time and take the responsibility to
     vote on any and all matters that are before it that require a vote.

>
>
> Please respond to study@cyber.law.harvard.edu by Wednesday, January 13,
> noon EST.
> Thank you very much for your participation in the Berkman Center's study on
> representation in cyberspace.
>
> --Wendy
> --
> Wendy Seltzer
> Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard Law School
> wseltzer@law.harvard.edu || wendy@seltzer.com
> Representation in Cyberspace Study: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rcs/

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number:  972-447-1894
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208

Paul Stauffer

Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:24:08 -0500
>There are many different conceptions of what ICANN as an organization
>should do, and as many different visions of what membership will entail.
>To get a deeper understanding of those visions, we ask: What should ICANN
>do for its members, and what will members do for the organization?  

ICANN exists to serve the entire Internet community, not its own
membership.  The membership should exist to serve ICANN, support its work,
legitimize its authority, and to hold it accountable to its mission and
responsibilities.

- Paul

--
Paul Stauffer, MCSE
Systems Analyst/Administrator          ----====<< Quotes 'R' Us >>====----
Boston University                   --==<< http://www.quotes-r-us.org/ >>==--

Joop Teernstra

Mon, 11 Jan 1999 23:51:17 +1200
At 11:29 10/01/99 -0500, you wrote:
>There are many different conceptions of what ICANN as an organization
>should do, and as many different visions of what membership will entail.
>To get a deeper understanding of those visions, we ask: What should ICANN
>do for its
>members, and what will members do for the organization?  
>

This question cannot be answered without knowing who the ICANN members will
be.

--If ICANN is an organisation for the benefit of a number of big companies
keen to get the maximum benefit out of both private and commercial internet
users, then the answer speaks 
for itself.  The members will be instrumental to achieve this goal.

--If ICANN is an bottom-up organisation by and for DNS users then ICANN
should provide them with a stable, cheap and fair DNS.
What the members should do for ICANN is: discuss and approve it's charter,
help fund it and regularly provide it with a responsible  Board and
Officers by means of the ballot. 
This is what was intended by the White Paper.
Joop Teernstra LL.M.  
Democratic Association of  Domain  Name  Owners
http://www.democracy.org.nz 

Richard.SWETENHAM@LUX.DG13.cec.be

Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:28:10 +0100
> There are many different conceptions of what ICANN as an organization
> should do, and as many different visions of what membership will entail.
> To get a deeper understanding of those visions, we ask: What should ICANN
> do for its
> members, and what will members do for the organization?  
> 

ICANN cannot grant special privileges to its members in exercising its basic functions, because it holds its powers in trust for the whole Internet community. The membership structure would however allow members to give input into a structured forum for consultation and making a contribution to policy formation. Members will join because they are motivated by an interest (which could be commercial or non-commercial) in the development of the Internet as a means for interaction  with other users.



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Greg Skinner

Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:06:55 -0800 (PST)
Berkman Center Study  wrote:

>There are many different conceptions of what ICANN as an organization
>should do, and as many different visions of what membership will entail.
>To get a deeper understanding of those visions, we ask: What should ICANN
>do for its members, and what will members do for the organization?

Do you mean "what should ICANN's members do for the organization?"
Please clarify.

--gregbo

"A.M. Rutkowski"

Sun, 10 Jan 1999 21:04:45 -0500
At 11:29 AM 1/10/99 , Berkman Center Study wrote:
>There are many different conceptions of what ICANN as an organization
>should do, and as many different visions of what membership will entail.
>To get a deeper understanding of those visions, we ask: What should ICANN
>do for its
>members, and what will members do for the organization?  

Wendy,

What ICANN does or does not, is constrained by both the
NTIA Policy Statement and the corporation's Articles of
Incorporation.  The former says that ICANN will not do
any more than what is done by the former IANA - which
it was intended to replace.  ICANN's Articles define
and constrain its purpose - consonant with the Policy
Statement.

A further constraint is represented in the nature of
the Internet itself.  It is fundamentally a self-organizing
network of autonomous networks.  What ICANN does - as
well as the relationship between its members and the
organization - necessarily must reflect these characteristics.
ICANN has no real authority beyond its ability to facilitate
cooperation among those constituting the Internet's networks.
In reality, there can be many ICANNs.

Hope this is useful.


--tony

BRPWIT@aol.com

Sun, 10 Jan 1999 19:11:25 EST
PLEASE

You are asking for very difficult deadlines for responses.  COSIDER:
You will get more meaningful responses if one has time to apply some thouth to
the questions and issues. Some of us have varying degrees of time to develop
responses. Yes, a busy person will get the work done quickly - but are you
looking for thoughtfullness or quick and dirty?
thank you
steve witkin

James JF Forest

Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:34:28 -0500
I view this as a working partnership between ICANN's leadership team and
the organization's members. Much like those involved in the peer reviewed
development of open source code (LINUX, Apache, etc.), members of ICANN
should take responsibility for collectively producing quality plans,
strategies, network protocol agreements, standards, and so forth. ICANN's
responsibility to its members is to provide the kinds of structured forums
and opportunities for meaningful contributions from its members.
- James JF Forest, Ph.D.
National Center for Urban Partnerships


>There are many different conceptions of what ICANN as an organization
>should do, and as many different visions of what membership will entail.
>To get a deeper understanding of those visions, we ask: What should ICANN
>do for its
>members, and what will members do for the organization?
>
>Please respond to study@cyber.law.harvard.edu by Wednesday, January 13,
>noon EST.
>Thank you very much for your participation in the Berkman Center's study on
>representation in cyberspace.
>
>--Wendy
>--
>Wendy Seltzer
>Berkman Center for Internet & Society at Harvard Law School
>wseltzer@law.harvard.edu || wendy@seltzer.com
>Representation in Cyberspace Study: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/rcs/

rcbartel

Sun, 10 Jan 1999 11:49:48 -0500
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What should ICANN do and what should its members do?:

ICANN should lead the way in assuring that internet domain names are not
treated as a commodity, by designing domain name assignment and
retention standards which prohibit warehousing, hoarding, stockpiling,
or banking of internet domain names by those who do not actually use the
domain names for a substantive Web site. There should be a use-or-loose
standard for placing a domain name into use.

The U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) has declared the
hoarding and warehousing of telephone numbers to be an unreasonable
practice contrary to the public interest, and has prohibited hoarding
and warehousing in Part 52 of its Regulations. The Commerce Department
should do the same with internet domain names. ICANN should develop
anti-warehousing and anti-hoarding provisions now in somain assignment
guidelines, and implement use-or-loose standards for all existing domain
name assignments, with effective and binding reclamation procedures.

ICANN should coordinate with the North American Numbering Council
(NANC), a Federal Advisory Committee to the Federal Communications
Commission (FCC), regarding domain name conservation and applicability
of Sec. 251 of the Telecommunication Act of 1996 to domain names.
--
Richard C. Bartel, President
Communications Venture Services, Inc.
5530 Wisconsin Avenue, Suite 703-705
P.O. Box 70805
Chevy Chase, Md. 20813-0805
(202) 728-3841



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