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SXSW Interactive 2011

2010-09-20T00:07:09Z

Christophercarfi:

SXSW Interactive 2011
http://sxsw.com/interactive

Tara Hunt has proposed a VRM session for SXSW Interactive.

Jon Lebkowsky, base in Austin, is coordinating a social gathering for the event. Add your name here if you plan to attend the conference and would be interested in being part of the gathering, along with your Austin arrival and departure dates.

Tom Stites will be at SXSW if his presentation is approved, and would love to be part of the VRM session. No travel plans yet.

[http://twitter.com/ccarfi Christopher Carfi] will be there with bells on.

SXSW Interactive 2011

2010-09-19T23:52:53Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-02T00:16:30Z

Christophercarfi:

* '''Date''': Nov 1, 2009
* '''Time''': 9:30 AM - 5:00 PM with informal dinner thereafter
* '''Location''': Cerado, Pacific Business Center, 2225 E. Bayshore Rd., Suite 200, Palo Alto, CA 94303 (Note: take the Embarcadero Road EAST exit off Highway 101.)

'''Agenda'''

# Project updates (let's front-load ones in the UK, for timing reasons)
## MyDex - Mydex hopes to have a pilot service up and running by March next year and has multiple ongoing discussions with a range of relying party organisations about them accepting user-driven information as a feed into their processes.
## The Mine! Project
## MINT
## ListenLog [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ListenLog#Current_Project_Status project status]
## EmanciPay - Sample gestures / r-button interaction, per Doc's presentation
## SwitchBook -
## Scanaroo [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Scanaroo project status]
## Women's Work - Judico is lead. Project website is [http://www.womenswork.org here].
## Henrik - [http://www.heste-nettet.dk/ link] - looking for better way to connect readers with ads
## [http://www.polka.com Polka] - Emergency Health Record Exchange - Mike Kirkwood
# Discussion of sectors/verticals/topic areas that we can organize events around. A few (not in order, despite numerical):
## Criteria
### Criteria 1...
## Possible meeting types
### Local/chapter meetings
### Working group meeting
### Open workshop
### Topical workshop/conference
### BarCamp
### Leadership meeting
### Geek Cruise
# Research & research topics [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Specific_Research_Proposals Specific Research Proposals], [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Project_Status Project Status]
## Testable hypotheses
### '''Research Proposal''' (also works as skeleton for events)
### Who is PI, Who gets access to results, when, Who decides go/no go
### What is hypothesis?
### Where will it be done
### How much will it cost
### How will it be conducted
### When will the research be conducted
### Why is this VRM
## Leveraging Berkman geek crew involvement
## Coordinating with commercial and noncommercial work going on, or planned
## VRM and Open Source; coordinating with commercial work
## VRM and mobile (e.g. with smart phones)
## Self-tracking and personal informatics (shall we call it STPI?)
### Existing work going on with STPI, and helping out or looping them into what we're doing
### ListenLog, Media Logging, Music Logging
### EmanciPay
## GRM (government or governance RM)
## HCRM (health care RM)
# Potential VRM "Products" (first round work)
## Events
## Peer Reviewed Journal
## Research projects (PI-led)
### Second order effects/benefits?
### ? VRM Seal
### ? Consulting
### ? Sponsorship Cachet
# Canonical description of VRM (especially for fixing our [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_Relationship_ManagementVRM Wikipedia entry]) Thought: split VRM and ProjectVRM? (Might be involved with Organization, below)
## Individual is point of integration
## Individual is point of origination
## Individual is point of control (and authority?) for integration and origination
## Definitions:
### VRM is Vendor Relationship Management (a category)
### VRM equips customers with tools that provide independence from vendors and better ways for engaging with vendors
### Relationships are key
# Weeding the [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ ProjectVRM wiki]
# VRM Marketing Committee work (especially on the [http://projectvrm.org ProjectVRM website]
# Pre-setting discussion topics for IIW (note: Doc will be at IIW only on Tuesday and Wednesday)
# Organization
# Other
## Parking lot
### Scanaroo visioning
### ListenLog (media logging)
### Emancipay

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T23:09:43Z

Christophercarfi:

* '''Date''': Nov 1, 2009
* '''Time''': 9:30 AM - 5:00 PM with informal dinner thereafter
* '''Location''': Cerado, Pacific Business Center, 2225 E. Bayshore Rd., Suite 200, Palo Alto, CA 94303 (Note: take the Embarcadero Road EAST exit off Highway 101.)

'''Agenda'''

# Project updates (let's front-load ones in the UK, for timing reasons)
## MyDex - Mydex hopes to have a pilot service up and running by March next year and has multiple ongoing discussions with a range of relying party organisations about them accepting user-driven information as a feed into their processes.
## The Mine! Project
## MINT
## ListenLog [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ListenLog#Current_Project_Status project status]
## EmanciPay - Sample gestures / r-button interaction, per Doc's presentation
## SwitchBook -
## Scanaroo [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Scanaroo project status]
## Women's Work - Judico is lead. Project website is [http://www.womenswork.org here].
## Henrik - [http://www.heste-nettet.dk/ link] - looking for better way to connect readers with ads
## [http://www.polka.com Polka] - Emergency Health Record Exchange - Mike Kirkwood
# Discussion of sectors/verticals/topic areas that we can organize events around. A few (not in order, despite numerical):
## Criteria
### Criteria 1...
## Possible meeting types
### Local/chapter meetings
### Working group meeting
### Open workshop
### Topical workshop/conference
### BarCamp
### Leadership meeting
### Geek Cruise
# Research & research topics [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Specific_Research_Proposals Specific Research Proposals], [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Project_Status Project Status]
## Testable hypotheses
### '''Research Proposal''' (also works as skeleton for events)
### Who is PI, Who gets access to results, when, Who decides go/no go
### What is hypothesis?
### Where will it be done
### How much will it cost
### How will it be conducted
### When will the research be conducted
### Why is this VRM
## Leveraging Berkman geek crew involvement
## Coordinating with commercial and noncommercial work going on, or planned
## VRM and Open Source; coordinating with commercial work
## VRM and mobile (e.g. with smart phones)
## Self-tracking and personal informatics (shall we call it STPI?)
### Existing work going on with STPI, and helping out or looping them into what we're doing
### ListenLog, Media Logging, Music Logging
### EmanciPay
## GRM (government or governance RM)
## HCRM (health care RM)
# Potential VRM "Products"
## Events
## Peer Reviewed Journal
## Research projects (PI-led)
# Canonical description of VRM (especially for fixing our [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_Relationship_ManagementVRM Wikipedia entry]) Thought: split VRM and ProjectVRM? (Might be involved with Organization, below)
# Weeding the [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ ProjectVRM wiki]
# VRM Marketing Committee work (especially on the [http://projectvrm.org ProjectVRM website]
# Pre-setting discussion topics for IIW (note: Doc will be at IIW only on Tuesday and Wednesday)
# Organization
# Other

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T22:16:49Z

Christophercarfi:

* '''Date''': Nov 1, 2009
* '''Time''': 9:30 AM - 5:00 PM with informal dinner thereafter
* '''Location''': Cerado, Pacific Business Center, 2225 E. Bayshore Rd., Suite 200, Palo Alto, CA 94303 (Note: take the Embarcadero Road EAST exit off Highway 101.)

'''Agenda'''

# Project updates (let's front-load ones in the UK, for timing reasons)
## MyDex - Mydex hopes to have a pilot service up and running by March next year and has multiple ongoing discussions with a range of relying party organisations about them accepting user-driven information as a feed into their processes.
## The Mine! Project
## MINT
## ListenLog [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ListenLog#Current_Project_Status project status]
## EmanciPay - Sample gestures / r-button interaction, per Doc's presentation
## SwitchBook -
## Scanaroo [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Scanaroo project status]
## Women's Work - Judico is lead. Project website is [http://www.womenswork.org here].
## Henrik - [http://www.heste-nettet.dk/ link] - looking for better way to connect readers with ads
## [http://www.polka.com Polka] - Emergency Health Record Exchange - Mike Kirkwood
# Discussion of sectors/verticals/topic areas that we can organize events around. A few (not in order, despite numerical):
## Criteria
### Criteria 1...
## Possible meeting types
### Local/chapter meetings
### Working group meeting
### Open workshop
### Topical workshop/conference
### BarCamp
### Leadership meeting
# Research & research topics [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Specific_Research_Proposals Specific Research Proposals], [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Project_Status Project Status]
## Testable hypotheses
### '''Research Proposal''' (also works as skeleton for events)
### Who is PI, Who gets access to results, when, Who decides go/no go
### What is hypothesis?
### Where will it be done
### How much will it cost
### How will it be conducted
### When will the research be conducted
### Why is this VRM
## Leveraging Berkman geek crew involvement
## Coordinating with commercial and noncommercial work going on, or planned
## VRM and Open Source; coordinating with commercial work
## VRM and mobile (e.g. with smart phones)
## Self-tracking and personal informatics (shall we call it STPI?)
### Existing work going on with STPI, and helping out or looping them into what we're doing
### ListenLog, Media Logging, Music Logging
### EmanciPay
## GRM (government or governance RM)
## HCRM (health care RM)
# Potential VRM "Products"
## Events
## Peer Reviewed Journal
## Research projects (PI-led)
# Canonical description of VRM (especially for fixing our [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_Relationship_ManagementVRM Wikipedia entry]) Thought: split VRM and ProjectVRM? (Might be involved with Organization, below)
# Weeding the [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ ProjectVRM wiki]
# VRM Marketing Committee work (especially on the [http://projectvrm.org ProjectVRM website]
# Pre-setting discussion topics for IIW (note: Doc will be at IIW only on Tuesday and Wednesday)
# Organization
# Other

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T22:08:30Z

Christophercarfi:

* '''Date''': Nov 1, 2009
* '''Time''': 9:30 AM - 5:00 PM with informal dinner thereafter
* '''Location''': Cerado, Pacific Business Center, 2225 E. Bayshore Rd., Suite 200, Palo Alto, CA 94303 (Note: take the Embarcadero Road EAST exit off Highway 101.)

'''Agenda'''

# Project updates (let's front-load ones in the UK, for timing reasons)
## MyDex - Mydex hopes to have a pilot service up and running by March next year and has multiple ongoing discussions with a range of relying party organisations about them accepting user-driven information as a feed into their processes.
## The Mine! Project
## MINT
## ListenLog [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ListenLog#Current_Project_Status project status]
## EmanciPay - Sample gestures / r-button interaction, per Doc's presentation
## SwitchBook -
## Scanaroo [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Scanaroo project status]
## Women's Work - Judico is lead. Project website is [http://www.womenswork.org here].
## Henrik - [http://www.heste-nettet.dk/ link] - looking for better way to connect readers with ads
## [http://www.polka.com Polka] - Emergency Health Record Exchange - Mike Kirkwood
# Discussion of sectors/verticals/topic areas that we can organize events around. A few (not in order, despite numerical):
## Criteria
### Criteria 1...
## Possible meeting types
### Local/chapter meetings
### Working group meeting
### Open workshop
### Topical workshop/conference
### BarCamp
### Leadership meeting
# Research & research topics [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Specific_Research_Proposals Specific Research Proposals], [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Project_Status Project Status]
## Testable hypotheses
### '''Research Proposal''' (also works as skeleton for events)
### Who is PI, Who gets access to results, when, Who decides go/no go
### What is hypothesis?
### Where will it be done
### How much will it cost
### How will it be conducted
### When will the research be conducted
### Why is this VRM
## Leveraging Berkman geek crew involvement
## Coordinating with commercial and noncommercial work going on, or planned
## VRM and Open Source; coordinating with commercial work
## VRM and mobile (e.g. with smart phones)
## Self-tracking and personal informatics (shall we call it STPI?)
### Existing work going on with STPI, and helping out or looping them into what we're doing
### ListenLog, Media Logging, Music Logging
### EmanciPay
## GRM (government or governance RM)
## HCRM (health care RM)
# Canonical description of VRM (especially for fixing our [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_Relationship_ManagementVRM Wikipedia entry]) Thought: split VRM and ProjectVRM? (Might be involved with Organization, below)
# Weeding the [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ ProjectVRM wiki]
# VRM Marketing Committee work (especially on the [http://projectvrm.org ProjectVRM website]
# Pre-setting discussion topics for IIW (note: Doc will be at IIW only on Tuesday and Wednesday)
# Organization
# Other

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T22:06:02Z

Christophercarfi:

* '''Date''': Nov 1, 2009
* '''Time''': 9:30 AM - 5:00 PM with informal dinner thereafter
* '''Location''': Cerado, Pacific Business Center, 2225 E. Bayshore Rd., Suite 200, Palo Alto, CA 94303 (Note: take the Embarcadero Road EAST exit off Highway 101.)

'''Agenda'''

# Project updates (let's front-load ones in the UK, for timing reasons)
## MyDex - Mydex hopes to have a pilot service up and running by March next year and has multiple ongoing discussions with a range of relying party organisations about them accepting user-driven information as a feed into their processes.
## The Mine! Project
## MINT
## ListenLog [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ListenLog#Current_Project_Status project status]
## EmanciPay - Sample gestures / r-button interaction, per Doc's presentation
## SwitchBook -
## Scanaroo [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Scanaroo project status]
## Women's Work - Judico is lead. Project website is [http://www.womenswork.org here].
## Henrik - [http://www.heste-nettet.dk/ link] - looking for better way to connect readers with ads
## [http://www.polka.com Polka] - Emergency Health Record Exchange - Mike Kirkwood
# Discussion of sectors/verticals/topic areas that we can organize events around. A few (not in order, despite numerical):
## Criteria
### Criteria 1...
## Possible meeting types
### Working group meeting
### Open workshop
### Topical workshop/conference
### BarCamp
### Leadership meeting
# Research & research topics [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Specific_Research_Proposals Specific Research Proposals], [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Project_Status Project Status]
## Testable hypotheses
### '''Research Proposal''' (also works as skeleton for events)
### Who is PI, Who gets access to results, when, Who decides go/no go
### What is hypothesis?
### Where will it be done
### How much will it cost
### How will it be conducted
### When will the research be conducted
### Why is this VRM
## Leveraging Berkman geek crew involvement
## Coordinating with commercial and noncommercial work going on, or planned
## VRM and Open Source; coordinating with commercial work
## VRM and mobile (e.g. with smart phones)
## Self-tracking and personal informatics (shall we call it STPI?)
### Existing work going on with STPI, and helping out or looping them into what we're doing
### ListenLog, Media Logging, Music Logging
### EmanciPay
## GRM (government or governance RM)
## HCRM (health care RM)
# Canonical description of VRM (especially for fixing our [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_Relationship_ManagementVRM Wikipedia entry]) Thought: split VRM and ProjectVRM? (Might be involved with Organization, below)
# Weeding the [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ ProjectVRM wiki]
# VRM Marketing Committee work (especially on the [http://projectvrm.org ProjectVRM website]
# Pre-setting discussion topics for IIW (note: Doc will be at IIW only on Tuesday and Wednesday)
# Organization
# Other

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T22:04:02Z

Christophercarfi:

* '''Date''': Nov 1, 2009
* '''Time''': 9:30 AM - 5:00 PM with informal dinner thereafter
* '''Location''': Cerado, Pacific Business Center, 2225 E. Bayshore Rd., Suite 200, Palo Alto, CA 94303 (Note: take the Embarcadero Road EAST exit off Highway 101.)

'''Agenda'''

# Project updates (let's front-load ones in the UK, for timing reasons)
## MyDex - Mydex hopes to have a pilot service up and running by March next year and has multiple ongoing discussions with a range of relying party organisations about them accepting user-driven information as a feed into their processes.
## The Mine! Project
## MINT
## ListenLog [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ListenLog#Current_Project_Status project status]
## EmanciPay - Sample gestures / r-button interaction, per Doc's presentation
## SwitchBook -
## Scanaroo [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Scanaroo project status]
## Women's Work - Judico is lead. Project website is [http://www.womenswork.org here].
## Henrik - [http://www.heste-nettet.dk/ link] - looking for better way to connect readers with ads
## [http://www.polka.com Polka] - Emergency Health Record Exchange - Mike Kirkwood
# Discussion of sectors/verticals/topic areas that we can organize events around. A few (not in order, despite numerical):
## Criteria
### Criteria 1...
## Ideas
### Topical committee meetings
### Working group meetings and support
### Open workshop
### Topical workshop/conference
### CRM+VRM
# Research & research topics [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Specific_Research_Proposals Specific Research Proposals], [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Project_Status Project Status]
## Testable hypotheses
### '''Research Proposal''' (also works as skeleton for events)
### Who is PI, Who gets access to results, when, Who decides go/no go
### What is hypothesis?
### Where will it be done
### How much will it cost
### How will it be conducted
### When will the research be conducted
### Why is this VRM
## Leveraging Berkman geek crew involvement
## Coordinating with commercial and noncommercial work going on, or planned
## VRM and Open Source; coordinating with commercial work
## VRM and mobile (e.g. with smart phones)
## Self-tracking and personal informatics (shall we call it STPI?)
### Existing work going on with STPI, and helping out or looping them into what we're doing
### ListenLog, Media Logging, Music Logging
### EmanciPay
## GRM (government or governance RM)
## HCRM (health care RM)
# Canonical description of VRM (especially for fixing our [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_Relationship_ManagementVRM Wikipedia entry]) Thought: split VRM and ProjectVRM? (Might be involved with Organization, below)
# Weeding the [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ ProjectVRM wiki]
# VRM Marketing Committee work (especially on the [http://projectvrm.org ProjectVRM website]
# Pre-setting discussion topics for IIW (note: Doc will be at IIW only on Tuesday and Wednesday)
# Organization
# Other

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T22:01:47Z

Christophercarfi:

* '''Date''': Nov 1, 2009
* '''Time''': 9:30 AM - 5:00 PM with informal dinner thereafter
* '''Location''': Cerado, Pacific Business Center, 2225 E. Bayshore Rd., Suite 200, Palo Alto, CA 94303 (Note: take the Embarcadero Road EAST exit off Highway 101.)

'''Agenda'''

# Project updates (let's front-load ones in the UK, for timing reasons)
## MyDex - Mydex hopes to have a pilot service up and running by March next year and has multiple ongoing discussions with a range of relying party organisations about them accepting user-driven information as a feed into their processes.
## The Mine! Project
## MINT
## ListenLog [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ListenLog#Current_Project_Status project status]
## EmanciPay - Sample gestures / r-button interaction, per Doc's presentation
## SwitchBook -
## Scanaroo [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Scanaroo project status]
## Women's Work - Judico is lead. Project website is [http://www.womenswork.org here].
## Henrik - [http://www.heste-nettet.dk/ link] - looking for better way to connect readers with ads
## [http://www.polka.com Polka] - Emergency Health Record Exchange - Mike Kirkwood
# Discussion of sectors/verticals/topic areas that we can organize events around. A few (not in order, despite numerical):
## Criteria
### Criteria 1...
## Ideas
### Topical committee meetings
### CRM+VRM
# Research & research topics [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Specific_Research_Proposals Specific Research Proposals], [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Project_Status Project Status]
## Testable hypotheses
### '''Research Proposal''' (also works as skeleton for events)
### Who is PI, Who gets access to results, when, Who decides go/no go
### What is hypothesis?
### Where will it be done
### How much will it cost
### How will it be conducted
### When will the research be conducted
### Why is this VRM
## Leveraging Berkman geek crew involvement
## Coordinating with commercial and noncommercial work going on, or planned
## VRM and Open Source; coordinating with commercial work
## VRM and mobile (e.g. with smart phones)
## Self-tracking and personal informatics (shall we call it STPI?)
### Existing work going on with STPI, and helping out or looping them into what we're doing
### ListenLog, Media Logging, Music Logging
### EmanciPay
## GRM (government or governance RM)
## HCRM (health care RM)
# Canonical description of VRM (especially for fixing our [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_Relationship_ManagementVRM Wikipedia entry]) Thought: split VRM and ProjectVRM? (Might be involved with Organization, below)
# Weeding the [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ ProjectVRM wiki]
# VRM Marketing Committee work (especially on the [http://projectvrm.org ProjectVRM website]
# Pre-setting discussion topics for IIW (note: Doc will be at IIW only on Tuesday and Wednesday)
# Organization
# Other

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T20:27:29Z

Christophercarfi:

* '''Date''': Nov 1, 2009
* '''Time''': 9:30 AM - 5:00 PM with informal dinner thereafter
* '''Location''': Cerado, Pacific Business Center, 2225 E. Bayshore Rd., Suite 200, Palo Alto, CA 94303 (Note: take the Embarcadero Road EAST exit off Highway 101.)

'''Agenda'''

# Project updates (let's front-load ones in the UK, for timing reasons)
## MyDex - Mydex hopes to have a pilot service up and running by March next year and has multiple ongoing discussions with a range of relying party organisations about them accepting user-driven information as a feed into their processes.
## The Mine! Project
## MINT
## ListenLog [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ListenLog#Current_Project_Status project status]
## EmanciPay - Sample gestures / r-button interaction, per Doc's presentation
## SwitchBook -
## Scanaroo [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Scanaroo project status]
## Women's Work - Judico is lead. Project website is [http://www.womenswork.org here].
## Henrik - [http://www.heste-nettet.dk/ link] - looking for better way to connect readers with ads
## [http://www.polka.com Polka] - Emergency Health Record Exchange - Mike Kirkwood
# Discussion of sectors/verticals/topic areas that we can organize events around. A few (not in order, despite numerical):
# Research & research topics [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Specific_Research_Proposals Specific Research Proposals], [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Project_Status Project Status]
## Testable hypotheses
### '''Research Proposal''' (also works as skeleton for events)
### Who is PI, Who gets access to results, when, Who decides go/no go
### What is hypothesis?
### Where will it be done
### How much will it cost
### How will it be conducted
### When will the research be conducted
### Why is this VRM
## Leveraging Berkman geek crew involvement
## Coordinating with commercial and noncommercial work going on, or planned
## VRM and Open Source; coordinating with commercial work
## VRM and mobile (e.g. with smart phones)
## Self-tracking and personal informatics (shall we call it STPI?)
### Existing work going on with STPI, and helping out or looping them into what we're doing
### ListenLog, Media Logging, Music Logging
### EmanciPay
## GRM (government or governance RM)
## HCRM (health care RM)
# Canonical description of VRM (especially for fixing our [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_Relationship_ManagementVRM Wikipedia entry]) Thought: split VRM and ProjectVRM? (Might be involved with Organization, below)
# Weeding the [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ ProjectVRM wiki]
# VRM Marketing Committee work (especially on the [http://projectvrm.org ProjectVRM website]
# Pre-setting discussion topics for IIW (note: Doc will be at IIW only on Tuesday and Wednesday)
# Organization
# Other

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T20:27:06Z

Christophercarfi:

* '''Date''': Nov 1, 2009
* '''Time''': 9:30 AM - 5:00 PM with informal dinner thereafter
* '''Location''': Cerado, Pacific Business Center, 2225 E. Bayshore Rd., Suite 200, Palo Alto, CA 94303 (Note: take the Embarcadero Road EAST exit off Highway 101.)

'''Agenda'''

# Project updates (let's front-load ones in the UK, for timing reasons)
## MyDex - Mydex hopes to have a pilot service up and running by March next year and has multiple ongoing discussions with a range of relying party organisations about them accepting user-driven information as a feed into their processes.
## The Mine! Project
## MINT
## ListenLog [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ListenLog#Current_Project_Status project status]
## EmanciPay - Sample gestures / r-button interaction, per Doc's presentation
## SwitchBook -
## Scanaroo [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Scanaroo project status]
## Women's Work - Judico is lead. Project website is [http://www.womenswork.org here].
## Henrik - [http://www.heste-nettet.dk/ link] - looking for better way to connect readers with ads
## [http://www.polka.com Polka] - Emergency Health Record Exchange - Mike Kirkwood -
# Discussion of sectors/verticals/topic areas that we can organize events around. A few (not in order, despite numerical):
# Research & research topics [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Specific_Research_Proposals Specific Research Proposals], [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Project_Status Project Status]
## Testable hypotheses
### '''Research Proposal''' (also works as skeleton for events)
### Who is PI, Who gets access to results, when, Who decides go/no go
### What is hypothesis?
### Where will it be done
### How much will it cost
### How will it be conducted
### When will the research be conducted
### Why is this VRM
## Leveraging Berkman geek crew involvement
## Coordinating with commercial and noncommercial work going on, or planned
## VRM and Open Source; coordinating with commercial work
## VRM and mobile (e.g. with smart phones)
## Self-tracking and personal informatics (shall we call it STPI?)
### Existing work going on with STPI, and helping out or looping them into what we're doing
### ListenLog, Media Logging, Music Logging
### EmanciPay
## GRM (government or governance RM)
## HCRM (health care RM)
# Canonical description of VRM (especially for fixing our [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_Relationship_ManagementVRM Wikipedia entry]) Thought: split VRM and ProjectVRM? (Might be involved with Organization, below)
# Weeding the [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ ProjectVRM wiki]
# VRM Marketing Committee work (especially on the [http://projectvrm.org ProjectVRM website]
# Pre-setting discussion topics for IIW (note: Doc will be at IIW only on Tuesday and Wednesday)
# Organization
# Other

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T20:23:08Z

Christophercarfi:

* '''Date''': Nov 1, 2009
* '''Time''': 9:30 AM - 5:00 PM with informal dinner thereafter
* '''Location''': Cerado, Pacific Business Center, 2225 E. Bayshore Rd., Suite 200, Palo Alto, CA 94303 (Note: take the Embarcadero Road EAST exit off Highway 101.)

'''Agenda'''

# Project updates (let's front-load ones in the UK, for timing reasons)
## MyDex - Mydex hopes to have a pilot service up and running by March next year and has multiple ongoing discussions with a range of relying party organisations about them accepting user-driven information as a feed into their processes.
## The Mine! Project
## MINT
## ListenLog [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ListenLog#Current_Project_Status project status]
## EmanciPay - Sample gestures / r-button interaction, per Doc's presentation
## SwitchBook -
## Scanaroo [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/Scanaroo project status]
## Women's Work - Judico is lead. Project website is [http://www.womenswork.org here].
## Henrik - [http://www.heste-nettet.dk/ link] - looking for better way to connect readers with ads
## Emergency Health Record Exchange - Mike Kirkwood -
# Discussion of sectors/verticals/topic areas that we can organize events around. A few (not in order, despite numerical):
# Research & research topics [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Specific_Research_Proposals Specific Research Proposals], [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Research_opportunities#Project_Status Project Status]
## Testable hypotheses
### '''Research Proposal''' (also works as skeleton for events)
### Who is PI, Who gets access to results, when, Who decides go/no go
### What is hypothesis?
### Where will it be done
### How much will it cost
### How will it be conducted
### When will the research be conducted
### Why is this VRM
## Leveraging Berkman geek crew involvement
## Coordinating with commercial and noncommercial work going on, or planned
## VRM and Open Source; coordinating with commercial work
## VRM and mobile (e.g. with smart phones)
## Self-tracking and personal informatics (shall we call it STPI?)
### Existing work going on with STPI, and helping out or looping them into what we're doing
### ListenLog, Media Logging, Music Logging
### EmanciPay
## GRM (government or governance RM)
## HCRM (health care RM)
# Canonical description of VRM (especially for fixing our [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_Relationship_ManagementVRM Wikipedia entry]) Thought: split VRM and ProjectVRM? (Might be involved with Organization, below)
# Weeding the [http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/ ProjectVRM wiki]
# VRM Marketing Committee work (especially on the [http://projectvrm.org ProjectVRM website]
# Pre-setting discussion topics for IIW (note: Doc will be at IIW only on Tuesday and Wednesday)
# Organization
# Other

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T19:41:36Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T19:24:54Z

Christophercarfi:

Scanaroo

2009-11-01T19:05:22Z

Christophercarfi:

'''Scanaroo'''

Loyalty card manager for smartphones

Website: [http://www.scanaroo.com Scanaroo web site]

Project is live an available as of 1Aug

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T19:04:56Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T19:04:20Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T18:59:06Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T18:57:27Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T18:55:08Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T18:54:39Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T18:54:18Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T18:48:04Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T18:47:50Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T18:47:06Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T18:46:39Z

Christophercarfi:

Scanaroo

2009-11-01T18:45:51Z

Christophercarfi:

'''Scanaroo'''

Loyalty card manager for smartphones

Website: [http://www.scanaroo.com Scanaroo web site]

Scanaroo

2009-11-01T18:45:39Z

Christophercarfi: New page: '''Scanaroo''' Loyalty card manager for smartphones Website: [http://www.scanaroo.com]

'''Scanaroo'''

Loyalty card manager for smartphones

Website: [http://www.scanaroo.com]

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T18:44:25Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T18:43:46Z

Christophercarfi:

VRooM Leadership Workshop

2009-11-01T18:43:29Z

Christophercarfi:

June 24 2009 Conference Call

2009-06-25T19:12:01Z

Christophercarfi: /* Loyalty Cards */

==Conference Call Notes==
Drafted by Joe Andrieu, June 24, 2009

==IRC==
#vrm at chat.freenode.net

==Other Calls==
[[Category:conference call]]
[[:Category:conference call]]

==Attendees==
* Joe Andrieu
* Doc Searls
* Adriana Lukas
* Chris Carfi
* Judi Clark
* Sean Bohan
* Allan Gregory

==Notes==

===Allan Gregory===
Doc has a new intern at Berkman. He's going to help Doc out with VRM, helping coordinate. The internship is being paid for by Serdna.

Allan will be helping with some wiki cleaning, syncing up all the different projects, all the different committee members.

===Much going on===

Lots of things going on right now. For example, while Doc was in the UK, the ctrl-shift folks (who overlap a bit with MyDex). They gave a talk to the Guardian newspaper. A whole room full of people about Emancipay, which was well received.

In the US, journalism is following the RIAA-style insanity, while the Guardian seems to be inclined towards an open source approach.

Doc's been walking through a user experience description for EmanciPay. So, for example, at the Guardian, we'd like users to be able to track readership offline. Do we add a short code to every story (ala VCR Plus) so that users can.

Perhaps like QR codes (Quick Response)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_codes They are like bar codes, but with a bit more information. So, you might see a QR on a billboard and take a picture of that on an iPhone, then the iPhone opens a specific web page. These should work with any phone that has a camera.

===Community Reports===
====The Mine====
Working on UI. There are no deadlines. Coded in Python. Working code at end of August, with a hacking session.

Looking at Opera Unite. Dinner with Simon Phipps recently and he introduced Adriana to the CTO. There seems to be a lot of overlap with what Opera is doing.

[Judi] You still have to coordinate with Opera's servers, which is a bit closed.

Yep. In fact, it's not clear how, for example, cached copies are being used.

Similarities with Google Wave. Except of course that Wave is vaporware.

Also critical HTML5 is moving in this direction, offering a much richer application framework.

At the VRM Workshop, Craig Burton raised questions about the notion that we live in a cookie based world for a very long time. And its time to move to a card selector framework. In the cookie framework, the website is in charge. VRM is now a way to revert the cookie.

====SwitchBook====
Heads down in development. Currently going to production on UI assets and pushing to super-minimal feature set for a limited alpha release this next month. Currently working on Portable Context as a concept and standard.

The idea of the portable context is that it is a way for users to track what they are doing and share it as appropriate with potential service providers.

====ListenLog====
We need/are creating a new framework for attributing value. The ListenLog is essentially exposing value by showing users what they've been listening to.

Tom Forensky, the Internet is somewhat counter-inflationary, but it isn't about losing value, it is about moving value around.

People do have loyalty to newspapers. They just may not feel like compensating in the old way. So what's the new way?

====Chris Carfi & Retail====
Not much more detail on the conversation with Chris Heuer. The net-net is that he'd like to get involved and the main thing Chris said is that if there are places they can splice in with other things going on, let's do it, but not yet into details.

=====Loyalty Cards=====
Going gang buster. Simplified version on the iphone in July. Syncing up with Iain. Great example of phone as personal datastore. But how do we hook this up with other types of things. iCards, the Mine, etc. How do we pull from the iPhone into other repositories. '''This is not quite safe for blogging''', so please hold off on promoting this more widely. Chris would like to get through the App Store approval process first, so we don't lose any momentum or buzz that might occur before the product is actually available to end users.

===Next West Coast Workshop===
Set up a meeting in November, just before IIW? The Sunday/Monday just before?

Let's leave that day before open.

And, if we are going to do an October event in Boston, then perhaps a January or February event in Silicon Valley would create a good rhythm. October Boston, November IIW Silicon Valley, Jan/Feb VRM Silicon Valley.

===East Coast Workshop===
August? Looks challenging, but October might work. So let's look for a date in October.

==Next Meeting==
*[[July 08 2009 Conference Call]]

VRM West Coast Workshop 2009

2009-05-06T03:39:29Z

Christophercarfi:

The first ProjectVRM West Coast Workshop (tag [http://technorati.com/tag/vrm2009 vrm2009]) will take place on Friday-Saturday 15-16 May, 2009 at [http://www.sap.com/usa/index.epx SAP Labs] at [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3410+Hillview+Ave.,+Palo+Alto,+CA+94304,+USA&sll=40.768582,-74.492798&sspn=0.372862,0.744324&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1 3410 Hillview Street in Palo Alto]. The event will go from 9am to roughly 5pm on both days.

As with earlier VRM gatherings, the purpose of the workshop is to bring people together and make progress on any number of VRM topics and projects. The workshop will be run as an "unconference" on the open space model, which means session topics will be chosen by participants. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology Here is the Wikipedia page on open space.]

In open space there are no speakers or panels -- just participants, gathered to get work done and enjoy doing it. Participation includes contributing to the [[VRM West Coast Workshop 2009]] wiki.

== Registration ==

The workshop is free. You can register through [http://vrmwestcoast2009.eventbrite.com/ this EventBrite link]. Feel free to also add your name to the [[VRM West Coast Workshop 2009 Attendees]] list.

The EventBrite link above caps attendance at 100. SAP is prepared for 50-70, however. So register early. - Doc

== Agenda/Session topics ==
''This is a live agenda. The canonical copy will be on the wall at the workshop.''

'''''Session 1'''''
* '''B:''' [[Defining 1st and 4th Parties]]
* '''D:'''

'''''Session 2'''''
* '''A:''' Getting rid of those tick-boxes....
* '''B:'''
* '''C:'''
* '''D:'''

'''''Session 3'''''
* '''A:''' [[Personal Health Records]]
* '''B:'''
* '''C:'''
* '''D:'''

'''''Session 4'''''
* '''A:''' [[VRM + Enterprises]]
* '''B:'''
* '''C:'''
* '''D:'''

'''Day 2'''

'''''Session 5'''''
* '''A:''' [[Developing Communities of Interest]]
* '''B:'''
* '''C:'''
* '''D:'''

'''''Session 6'''''
* '''A:''' [[Drafting an Agreement]]
* '''B:'''

'''''Session 7'''''
* '''A:'''
* '''B:'''

'''''Session 8'''''
* '''B:'''

'''''Session 9:'''''
* '''A:'''

== Schedule ==

=== Friday May 15 ===

Morning Refreshments - 8:30

Opening 9-11
* TBD (will involve brief reports from various VRM projects)

Sessions 11-4:30
* 11-11:30 Agenda Making
* 11:30-11:45 Lunch, which will be provided by SAP
* 11:45 - 12:45 - Session 1
* 1:00-2:00 Session 2
* 2:15-3:15 Session 3
* 3:30-4:30 Session 4

Sessions reporting to the group, 4:30-5:30

In open space workshops, topics are suggested by participants in the Agenda making session, which is attended by everybody. Participants write the title of their topic on a sheet of paper with a bold marker, add their name, then describe the topic to the group and post it on a large "spreadsheet" of times and session locations, a blackboard in the front of Pound 101, which will be our main room.

One person in each session will take notes, either directly (or eventually) on the workshop wiki. At the end of each day somebody from each discussion session will report progress to the group.

7:00PM:
'''Non-hosted Dinner'''
* Location: TBD
* Time: TBD
* Attendees (please add your name here if you plan to attend so we can get reservations):
**

=== Saturday May 16 ===

Morning Refreshments - 8:30 (Open. We provide this ourselves. How to do this is TBD.)

Opening group gathering (adding or moving sessions, reports of insights from yesterday) - 8:30-9:00

Sessions: 9am-4pm
* 9:00-10:00 Session 5
* 10:10-11:10 Session 6
* 11:20-12:30 Session 7
* 12:30-1:45 LUNCH - TBD
* 1:45-2:45 Session 7
* 3:00-4:00 Session 8

Closing session, summarizing both days, personal comments, more - 4:00-5:30

==Space==

We have a large room on the main floor at SAP. There will be breakout spaces. These are TBD.

If we need additional small session spaces, there are outdoor and patio areas available as well. There will be wi-fi. Bring extra power strips just in case we need them.

== Possible Topics ==

There are many. Here is a list to get us started. Add or subtract whatever you like...

*
*

== Getting There ==

SAP Labs is a beautiful facility with plenty of parking in the hills of southwest Palo Alto. A map is [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3410+Hillview+Ave.,+Palo+Alto,+CA+94304,+USA&sll=40.768582,-74.492798&sspn=0.372862,0.744324&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1 here].

Those with cars, offering carpool possibilities, add to the list here:

* [http://searls.com Doc Searls]
* [http://www.socialcustomer.com Christopher Carfi] (coming from Half Moon Bay)
*

Needing a ride:

* [http://digitalIDcoach.com Judi Clark] (from Middlefield and Willow Rd, Menlo Park)
*

== Participation over the Net ==

Streams will be set up.

We also have an IRC channel via Freenode, at #VRM.

== Materials ==

*
*
*

VRM West Coast Workshop 2009 Attendees

2009-04-28T16:00:50Z

Christophercarfi:

* Daniel Perry
* Judi Clark
* Christopher Carfi

VRM West Coast Workshop 2009

2009-04-28T15:59:46Z

Christophercarfi: /* Getting There */

The first ProjectVRM West Coast Workshop (tag [http://technorati.com/tag/vrm2009 vrm2009]) will take place on Friday-Saturday 15-16 May, 2009 at [http://www.sap.com/usa/index.epx SAP Labs] at [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3410+Hillview+Ave.,+Palo+Alto,+CA+94304,+USA&sll=40.768582,-74.492798&sspn=0.372862,0.744324&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1 1410 Hillview Street in Palo Alto]. The event will go from 9am to roughly 5pm on both days.

As with earlier VRM gatherings, the purpose of the workshop is to bring people together and make progress on any number of VRM topics and projects. The workshop will be run as an "unconference" on the open space model, which means session topics will be chosen by participants. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology Here is the Wikipedia page on open space.]

In open space there are no speakers or panels -- just participants, gathered to get work done and enjoy doing it. Participation includes contributing to the [[VRM West Coast Workshop 2009]] wiki.

== Registration ==

The workshop is free. You can register through [http://vrmwestcoast2009.eventbrite.com/ this EventBrite link]. Feel free to also add your name to the [[VRM West Coast Workshop 2009 Attendees]] list.

The EventBrite link above caps attendance at 100. SAP is prepared for 50-70, however. So register early. - Doc

== Agenda/Session topics ==
''This is a live agenda. The canonical copy will be on the wall at the workshop.''

'''''Session 1'''''
* '''B:''' [[Defining 1st and 4th Parties]]
* '''D:'''

'''''Session 2'''''
* '''A:''' Getting rid of those tick-boxes....
* '''B:'''
* '''C:'''
* '''D:'''

'''''Session 3'''''
* '''A:''' [[Personal Health Records]]
* '''B:'''
* '''C:'''
* '''D:'''

'''''Session 4'''''
* '''A:''' [[VRM + Enterprises]]
* '''B:'''
* '''C:'''
* '''D:'''

'''Day 2'''

'''''Session 5'''''
* '''A:''' [[Developing Communities of Interest]]
* '''B:'''
* '''C:'''
* '''D:'''

'''''Session 6'''''
* '''A:''' [[Drafting an Agreement]]
* '''B:'''

'''''Session 7'''''
* '''A:'''
* '''B:'''

'''''Session 8'''''
* '''B:'''

'''''Session 9:'''''
* '''A:'''

== Schedule ==

=== Friday May 15 ===

Morning Refreshments - 8:30

Opening 9-11
* TBD (will involve brief reports from various VRM projects)

Sessions 11-4:30
* 11-11:30 Agenda Making
* 11:30-11:45 Lunch, which will be provided by SAP
* 11:45 - 12:45 - Session 1
* 1:00-2:00 Session 2
* 2:15-3:15 Session 3
* 3:30-4:30 Session 4

Sessions reporting to the group, 4:30-5:30

In open space workshops, topics are suggested by participants in the Agenda making session, which is attended by everybody. Participants write the title of their topic on a sheet of paper with a bold marker, add their name, then describe the topic to the group and post it on a large "spreadsheet" of times and session locations, a blackboard in the front of Pound 101, which will be our main room.

One person in each session will take notes, either directly (or eventually) on the workshop wiki. At the end of each day somebody from each discussion session will report progress to the group.

7:00PM:
'''Non-hosted Dinner'''
* Location: TBD
* Time: TBD
* Attendees (please add your name here if you plan to attend so we can get reservations):
**

=== Saturday May 16 ===

Morning Refreshments - 8:30 (Open. We provide this ourselves. How to do this is TBD.)

Opening group gathering (adding or moving sessions, reports of insights from yesterday) - 8:30-9:00

Sessions: 9am-4pm
* 9:00-10:00 Session 5
* 10:10-11:10 Session 6
* 11:20-12:30 Session 7
* 12:30-1:45 LUNCH - TBD
* 1:45-2:45 Session 7
* 3:00-4:00 Session 8

Closing session, summarizing both days, personal comments, more - 4:00-5:30

==Space==

We have a large room on the main floor at SAP. There will be breakout spaces. These are TBD.

If we need additional small session spaces, there are outdoor and patio areas available as well. There will be wi-fi. Bring extra power strips just in case we need them.

== Possible Topics ==

There are many. Here is a list to get us started. Add or subtract whatever you like...

*
*

== Getting There ==

SAP Labs is a beautiful facility with plenty of parking in the hills of southwest Palo Alto. A map is [http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=3410+Hillview+Ave.,+Palo+Alto,+CA+94304,+USA&sll=40.768582,-74.492798&sspn=0.372862,0.744324&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1 here].

Those with cars, offering carpool possibilities, add to the list here:

* [http://searls.com Doc Searls]
* [http://www.socialcustomer.com Christopher Carfi] (coming from Half Moon Bay)
*

== Participation over the Net ==

Streams will be set up.

We also have an IRC channel via Freenode, at #VRM.

== Materials ==

*
*
*

February 25 2009 Conference Call

2009-02-25T18:39:40Z

Christophercarfi: /* Fix My Vendor */

==Conference Call Notes==
Drafted by Joe Andrieu, February 25, 2009

==IRC==
#vrm at chat.freenode.net

==Other Calls==
[[Category:conference call]]
[[:Category:conference call]]

==Attendees==
* Joe Andrieu
* Dean Landsman
* Iain Henderson
* Doc Searls
* Drummond Reed
* Chris Carfi
* Alan Mitchell

==Notes==

===Fix My Vendor===
How do we help users start driving value. There's a service called "Fix My Street". Perhaps we could do something like that, called "Fix My Vendor", which is a user-driven way to make a difference (rather than a calling to account to the Govt for doing their job).

Not sure what the difference is with Get Satisfaction. One thing is that Fix implies it is broken. If it were "Fix my Spouse" that would be pretty offensive. ("Fix my Spouse" could also be confused with [http://www.marvistavet.com/assets/images/Dog_in_elizabethan_collar.gif this]. :-))

Perhaps "Fix my Market" or as Iain says "I don't like..." to focus energy on the real problem, without blaming the vendor.

An open source/open standard Get Satisfaction would be awesome. But there are hosting issues.

===Existing Steering Committee Members===
Dean asked for recruiting new folks. He had sent out an email.

===May West Coast Workshop===
We have a location at Standard for May 14, 15 (Friday and Saturday before IIW). Chris will follow up and pick some rooms. Doc will tell Lauren that Chris will be the point person.

====Promotion====
*Send out an invitation to the list.
*Notice on the wiki.

Docs a little concerned about promoting it too much. Huge interest in Atlanta, so its possible to get more attendance than we can handle.

====Dean wants to avoid====
If there was going to be a break out group where people from one specialty communicating with ...

We had a lot of folks talking about the same thing all over again. We weren't quite facilitated.

It kept being the same-ol-same old. Too many folks went to what they already were talking about. It was the usual clubs.

There could've been a more mash up feeling. More cross-group pollination.

Joe: We had a lot of distraction with the organizational issues. That sucked out a lot of leadership into internal issues rather than connecting and cross-polination with new blood.

Doc: The constructive part of the workshop is essential. The point of the workshop is to get work done. So if you are already working on something, this is a place to get things done.

Definitely an opportunity to encourage moving out of your comfort zone and trying something new to support cross-pollination.

How about a cross-pollination baselining? Perhaps an ignite-style quick blurp from anyone who wants to share. 30 seconds/slide. 3 mins per person. Pre-arranged slides.

===ListenLog===
Things are moving forward. The NPR tuner has budget for ListenLog. Folks from XDI community are helping out.

The tuner is past 750,000 downloads. #2 most downloaded app.

Also in line for another grant, working with PRX (which is part of the public radio mafia families) and Keith. It's going to get ProjectVRM a bit of money. To develop both ListenLog and PayChoice. Jeremy Miller will also be joining us.

===IMA===
Great interest in VRM stuff. This is the public media conference. Lots of energy going into media logging. And we are working from separating the media logging from the tuner app.

===CRM===
Let's move forward with CRM Vendors. Iain met with a UK-based CRM vendor. They are up for it. But they are quite small and inconsequential. It might be a waste.

Iain will take the lead on that.

===SXSW===
Barcamp in Austin. Chris has contacted the folks and will be scheduling something in for us.

Chris Friday through Monday
Doc's panel Tuesday the 17th. Interview Saturday the 14th.
Joe is 12th 6PM through 18th 6PM.
Iain is there through about 1PM on the 18th.

BarCamp is officially the 13th through the 15th.
http://www.barcamp.org/BarCampAustin4

===What would Google Do?===
Book by Jeff Jarvis. Lots of good cluetrain stuff. Jeff is a good friend of Doc. Doc likes it. Good VRM stuff.

Alan is reading it, thinks it is great. Really good to see VRM in print. Maybe we can capitalize on his energy.

Interesting... micropayments article in NYT (slammed micropayments), but '''microaccounting''' is what ListenLog is, and '''that''' is interesting.

Jeff is a great promoter, if you can get him when his project window is open and/or aligned with your own activity.

===Upcoming Meetings===
*Tuesdays 1:30PM PST: ListenLog
*Alternating Wednesdays (Next 2/4) 10AM PST Standards committee call
*Alternating Wednesdays (Next 2/4) 12:30 EST Marketing committee call

==Next Meeting==
*[[Mar 11 2009 Conference Call]]

December 03 2008 Conference Call

2008-12-05T03:27:35Z

Christophercarfi: /* Conflicts */

==Conference Call Notes==
Drafted by Joe Andrieu, December 03, 2008

==IRC==
#vrm at chat.freenode.net

==Other Calls==
[[Category:conference call]]
[[:Category:conference call]]

==Attendees==
* Joe Andrieu
* Dean Landsman
* Sean Bohan
* Iain Henderson
* Keith Hopper
* Doc Searls
* Alan Mitchell

==Agenda==
#Declaration of Independence/Principles
#Project VRM Landing Page
#CRM Business
#Iain Email
#Marketing group output
#Organization and IP policy discussion
#Next face to face
#Expectations
#VPI
#Dataportability

==Notes==
===Declaration of Independence/Principles===

Doc is working on it. Hopes to have something by the end of the week. Doc & Dean remind us that we keep getting questions about "is this VRM" and quite often just about advertising.

This flows with Doc's work on the 2nd edition of the cluetrain manifesto. So progress soon...

===Project VRM Landing Page===
Website is up. Looking for feedback/changes/etc. Hasn't been fixed to go over to Drupal at Berkman.

http://projectvrm.net

Send feedback to Dean. mailto:deanland@gmail.com

Note we also need a new logo.

===CRM Business===
We had a VRM meeting after IIW, graciously hosted by friends at Oracle.

Where it was mentioned by our hosts that "Whoever wins at VRM wins at CRM". To note, we do have the attention the top people at the #2 worldwide CRM company (#1 in US).

For the r-button, it occurs that we are going to be providing stuff for CRM people as well as VRM folks. Let's consider how we approach CRM companies without getting caught up in it.

Iain--I think its fairly easy to articulate to a CRM vendor how to make their system VRM enabled. I have had talks with folks at Terradata and IBM.

Doc--It seems to me that Oracle and Salesforce have dramatically changed the language they are using. Less about acquiring and owning customers. The wikipedia entry has changed. The old ways of pitching themselves has changed.

The smartest people don't go to Oracle for CRM solutions. Because it isn't so much about the technology, it's about changing your internal processes and culture. So why Oracle gets lots of money for enterprise solutions, there's a LOT more spent on CRM internally by companies reinventing themselves.

VRM + CRM Workshop?

VRM needs to interface with CRM.

If clever organizations see this as the future and start investing now, that will ease our development. The risk is them also trying to co-opt VRM for their own ends. That's an inevitable confrontation we'll just have to manage.

Once we have the declaration of independence and constitution, we can use that to focus our attention and to counter the inevitable efforts to co-opt VRM.

Actions:
#In the principles, we need to specifically address the reciprocity between CRM and VRM, that these are additive relationships.
#Doc would like to work with Iain on an article/working set of talking points about what VRM means for CRM.
#An event--VRM + CRM. Preferably one of many verticals. Doc would like to feel we are a bit further downstream. More concrete stuff to talk about.

===Marketing group output===
Group started out with Sean & Chris document, plus help with Dean and Deb. Sean has been picking up stuff and working on two new documents. Talking with some designers, looking for pro-bono.

Is this marketing group for marketing VRM or is it for the implications /for/ marketing of VRM. Answer: it is for marketing VRM. We are looking at interpreting VRM for "the real world". To be able to take what we do and take it to large retailers and invite them to be part of a pilot project, with a nice fee to fund that. So, anything we write has to make it past legal and IT as well as marketing. We want them to understand there is benefit here and in their language. We have a few candidate firms to approach.

Alan Mitchell asked to join the effort.

===Organization and IP policy discussion===
There are some challenges playing well with Berkman. Doc needs to build up the project at Berkman, ie, getting funding in, before growing the project outside Berkman.

Conversation processing Bill Smith's feedback.

Doc is meeting with a lawyer next week on the organizational side.

Got to get the principles up. Website up. FAQ. These are gatekeepers for getting funding into VRM.

Iain notes that all of the either relationship stages in his recent email, have hundreds of pages.
Joe notes that with SwitchBook's NSF funding, he is ready to convene public discussions to create a search map specification.

Let's set up a weekly 1 hour meeting.

===Next face to face===
Stanford in the spring?

Early March
Last Week of February Good for Doc

Joe will push this forward.

====Conflicts====
*March 13-17 SXSW
*Third week of Feb IMA
*April 12th Easter
*March 26 Kinneret
*March 24-26, Community Networking
*May 18-20 IIW is

===Expectations===
===VPI===
Had a MyDex developers gathering with Asa over in the UK. We think we are just a few weeks away from being able to say "I want to buy that" with all the appropriate identity technology wrapped around it.

===Dataportability===

==Next Meeting==
*[[December 17 2008 Conference Call]]

Link to Drummond Reed explanation of each R-button state

2008-11-05T20:36:45Z

Christophercarfi: New page: 5Nov2008 On todayâs VRM Standards call, Joe and Asa explained to me the conclusion reached on the last R-Button call that an r-button should be tri-state: 1) Nothing lit up: open (o...

5Nov2008

On todayâs VRM Standards call, Joe and Asa explained to me the conclusion reached on the last R-Button call that an r-button should be tri-state:

1) Nothing lit up: open (off/completely greyed out)

2) Lit up: open

3) Lit up: closed

Having missed the end of last weekâs R-Button call and not knowing that tri-state was the conclusion, I had posted yesterday an endorsement of the idea that the Left-Side (User) and Right-Side (Vendor) halves of the button should be able to be lit up independently. That reflects the initial five-state conception:

1) Nothing lit up: open (off/completely greyed out)

2) Only left side lit up: open

3) Only right side lit up: open

4) Both sides lit up: open

5) Both sides lit up: closed

So I went into todayâs call thinking that five-state was still an option. Furthermore, one good use case for state #3 (right side lit up: open) was when a user wanted to initiate a relationship with a vendor but the vendor was not âin the systemâ yet, so the userâs only option was to initiate a âproxyâ relationship via a relationship service provider that could subsequently be âdiscoveredâ by the vendor.

However after talking it over with Joe and Asa, I now see why tri-state was the conclusion last week (and why we should stick with it). I volunteered to send this email to the list just to save others from having to run through the same analysis time after time.

What it comes down to is the question of âaffordanceâ: what does the button actually indicate to you, the user, what you can do? In the tri-state model, itâs very simple:

1) Nothing lit up: open ==> no relationship actions are available

2) Lit up: open ==> relationship actions are available but none have been taken yet

3) Lit up: closed ==> at least one relationship action has been taken

When you ask the same affordance question of the five-state model, the mental model gets much more complicated:

1) Nothing lit up: open ==> no relationship actions are available from either side

2) Only left side lit up: open ==> user-defined relationship actions are available but none have been taken yet

3) Only right side lit up: open ==> vendor-defined relationship actions are available but none have been taken yet

4) Both sides lit up: open ==> both user- and vendor-defined relationship actions are available but none have been taken yet

5) Both sides lit up: closed ==> at least one relationship action has been taken

Not only does this require the user to understand the conceptual difference between user-defined relationship actions and vendor-defined relationship actions, but the problem remains that once the user takes ANY action, the button closes and the user has no way of knowing whether it was a user-defined action or a vendor-defined action.

Net net: Joe, Asa, and I agreed that it would be much simpler to stick to the tri-state model for the r-button itself, and then present the range of actions â which may vary anywhere from simple user-defined options (âopen a proxyâ) to simple vendor-defined options (âbuy thisâ) to extremely rich options (an entire right-button menu) via a context-sensitive menu displayed by the local relationship agent.

Hope this helps,

=Drummond

R-button Functional Specification

2008-11-05T20:36:29Z

Christophercarfi: /* R-button States */

(Some suggested spec categories if you're looking for a place to get started [[User:Khopper|Khopper]] 17:45, 2 September 2008 (EDT))

== Universal Characteristics / Attributes ==

== Core Capabilities ==

== R-button States ==

[[Image:pic1.jpg]]

[[Link to Drummond Reed explanation of each R-button state]]

== Expected Behavior ==

== Design Affordances ==

== Use Cases ==

October 29 2008 Conference Call

2008-10-29T17:52:54Z

Christophercarfi: /* Standards Meeting */

==Conference Call Notes==
Drafted by Joe Andrieu, October 29, 2008

==IRC==
#vrm at chat.freenode.net

==Other Calls==
[[Category:conference call]]
[[:Category:conference call]]

==Attendees==
* Joe Andrieu
* Dean Landsman
* Sean Bohan
* Iain Henderson
* Charles Andres (coming in a bit late)
* Brett McDowell
* Chris Carfi
* Doc Searls

==Agenda==
#Review Boston Meetings
##Standards Meeting
##Public Media Meeting
#r-button update
#Marketing committee update
#European update
#IIW

==Notes==

===VPI SIG===
Iain is leading a SIG at Liberty to push forward his Volunteer Personal Information initiative to free up the information that only individuals have access to today.

*Contracts
*Policy
*Legislation
*Technology

Everything needed to get it implemented.

Teleconference 2008/10/30 1PM ET/ 10AM PT

Doc will be working towards a draft "Declaration of Independence"-style document defining what is VRM for that teleconference.

12-18 month process. Teleconferences every two weeks. A face to face as well. Hopefully in Feb/March of 2009.

We want the VRM braintrust involved. Also the Identity Assurance braintrust, who have deep knowledge in compliance.

Goal is to build a case that there is a market and need here. Then build a normative standard. Then getting funding to operationalize a program.

Iain already has a bunch of work to kickstart the effort.
===VRM.ORG===
Renee Lloyd is taking the lead, working with Doc to make this happen.
===Website update===
Its getting fixed. We were attacked; so we are cleaning that up. We will have much of what everyone has been asking for. By the time of our next call, it should be up and running.

Doc clarifies that the web guys need to work with Sebastian to make it completely compatible with Berkman's operations. Which means porting to Drupal.

===Standards Meeting===
Two days in Boston. First, talking about PAM specification, especially around scope. Second, about r-button. We spent a lot of time talking about exactly what example r-button interaction we wanted to specify, ultimately choosing a Radio Paradise example where a playlist has several r-buttons embedded in the HTML, and '''those''' r-buttons are properly rendered based on relationship services subscribed to by the user and offered by the vendor, Radio Paradise in this case.

Key breakthroughs:
*[http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/R-button_Functional_Specification r-button states]
*Local Services
*Entities
*Relationship Actions (Rather than abstract "relationships")

Asa and Joe are working on a Demo for IIW that would show this more completely at IIW.

===Public Media/Radio Meeting===
17 people in the room at Berkman. This was to show folks how far we've come since the last workshop. We've had a few other meetings with them and VRM is now part of the lexicon in the public media conversation. Dana Rem and Barbara Appleby. Dana runs most of online at NPR and Barbara is a fundraising person at NPR. Keith's company, Public Interactive, is now owned by NPR and he's had a lot of good contact with both. We took a fairly conservative approach, focusing on something doable.

What we found is that not only did they "get it", they were enthusiastic about it.

As for what happens... there wasn't a clear action plan. Scott and Keith had mocked up a likely UI for an on-demand application for the iPhone. Turns out there are three ways to get content from the Web. Streaming (MP3 file without end). Podcasting, where you download the file. On-Demand, which is listen to this now. And it isn't downloaded and stored locally. The UI included the r-button and had interfaces for dealing with relationships with vendors/artists.

What Dana and Barbara made clear: They really want to keep us clear of their politics, which can be very stifling of new stuff. Let's get the geeks together and do something. once we have the r-button together enough, we'll get together.

We might want to invite Phil Goldsmith of Radio Paradise down to IIW. He's not too far away.

iCard/rCard insights.

Learnings from iPhone app. It was essentially a way to discover MP3 files online and in some way relate to the artist who created it. It was designed for radio programs, but it could be any MP3s. Let's you rate, donate, send messages, and get support, each of which are relationship actions. This was a way to get some input and feedback on what actions NPR stations would want to offer to users. It turns out it is very difficult to get across that the owner of the page is not in control--the user has some control. Trying to provide an interface that shows that "things are different" is an intriguing challenge because of the overriding expectation of users. COming up with a mechanism that breaks that assumption is going to be a big hurdle.

This is part of what we need to provide to vendors. The relationship action taken by the user that is stored or escrowed or discoverable by the vendor--this isn't just on a web page, it is in the context of services that go beyond the types of interactions we've had before.

For whatever reason, early in the history of the Internet, the concept of the individual wasn't really there. So part of our challenge is to put it there. To make it part of the game. Not just vendors providing a portfolio of services, but a relationship space that has both vendors and individuals in it.

Lot's of interesting feedback about perception of how people will react to the language and choices and possibility of VRM. There was great engagement on the "what if" questions.

Props to the Identity community for doing something that the open source community hasn't done. The reason CMS like Drupal and SimpleCMS suck is because they don't talk to each other. There is no IIW. No place for convergence. No energy and culture around working together. Part of that is because we are coming from the individual. The motion is a little brownian, but it's in the right direction.

===IIW===
Wednesday evening a working dinner. Thursday a full-day Steering Committee. Sunday will be a smaller meeting to hammer out IPR amongst those most experienced and most dependent on it (basically, those who either have something to add to IPR or have IP they need to have addressed properly).

We'll also do a session that overlaps with the Steering Committee meeting. Those of us onsite with confirm logistics and send an email out at the start of the meeting.

===VRM Hub Conference===
Unlocking the seesaw Nov 3 in London. Re-addressing the balance between vendors and users. 60+ users.

Monthly VRM meetings updated. Speaker at each session. Has a meeting space through Feb. The Mine! is warming up. They had a hacker session. Those interested in updates can contact her directly. samizdata@gmail.com

She will be in Mountain View on the 13th, but not attending IIW. Does want to attend the dinner on the 12th.

==Next Meeting==
*[[November 12 2008 Conference Call]] This is during IIW

October 29 2008 Conference Call

2008-10-29T17:52:38Z

Christophercarfi: /* Standards Meeting */

==Conference Call Notes==
Drafted by Joe Andrieu, October 29, 2008

==IRC==
#vrm at chat.freenode.net

==Other Calls==
[[Category:conference call]]
[[:Category:conference call]]

==Attendees==
* Joe Andrieu
* Dean Landsman
* Sean Bohan
* Iain Henderson
* Charles Andres (coming in a bit late)
* Brett McDowell
* Chris Carfi
* Doc Searls

==Agenda==
#Review Boston Meetings
##Standards Meeting
##Public Media Meeting
#r-button update
#Marketing committee update
#European update
#IIW

==Notes==

===VPI SIG===
Iain is leading a SIG at Liberty to push forward his Volunteer Personal Information initiative to free up the information that only individuals have access to today.

*Contracts
*Policy
*Legislation
*Technology

Everything needed to get it implemented.

Teleconference 2008/10/30 1PM ET/ 10AM PT

Doc will be working towards a draft "Declaration of Independence"-style document defining what is VRM for that teleconference.

12-18 month process. Teleconferences every two weeks. A face to face as well. Hopefully in Feb/March of 2009.

We want the VRM braintrust involved. Also the Identity Assurance braintrust, who have deep knowledge in compliance.

Goal is to build a case that there is a market and need here. Then build a normative standard. Then getting funding to operationalize a program.

Iain already has a bunch of work to kickstart the effort.
===VRM.ORG===
Renee Lloyd is taking the lead, working with Doc to make this happen.
===Website update===
Its getting fixed. We were attacked; so we are cleaning that up. We will have much of what everyone has been asking for. By the time of our next call, it should be up and running.

Doc clarifies that the web guys need to work with Sebastian to make it completely compatible with Berkman's operations. Which means porting to Drupal.

===Standards Meeting===
Two days in Boston. First, talking about PAM specification, especially around scope. Second, about r-button. We spent a lot of time talking about exactly what example r-button interaction we wanted to specify, ultimately choosing a Radio Paradise example where a playlist has several r-buttons embedded in the HTML, and '''those''' r-buttons are properly rendered based on relationship services subscribed to by the user and offered by the vendor, Radio Paradise in this case.

Key breakthroughs:
*[r-button states http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/R-button_Functional_Specification]
*Local Services
*Entities
*Relationship Actions (Rather than abstract "relationships")

Asa and Joe are working on a Demo for IIW that would show this more completely at IIW.

===Public Media/Radio Meeting===
17 people in the room at Berkman. This was to show folks how far we've come since the last workshop. We've had a few other meetings with them and VRM is now part of the lexicon in the public media conversation. Dana Rem and Barbara Appleby. Dana runs most of online at NPR and Barbara is a fundraising person at NPR. Keith's company, Public Interactive, is now owned by NPR and he's had a lot of good contact with both. We took a fairly conservative approach, focusing on something doable.

What we found is that not only did they "get it", they were enthusiastic about it.

As for what happens... there wasn't a clear action plan. Scott and Keith had mocked up a likely UI for an on-demand application for the iPhone. Turns out there are three ways to get content from the Web. Streaming (MP3 file without end). Podcasting, where you download the file. On-Demand, which is listen to this now. And it isn't downloaded and stored locally. The UI included the r-button and had interfaces for dealing with relationships with vendors/artists.

What Dana and Barbara made clear: They really want to keep us clear of their politics, which can be very stifling of new stuff. Let's get the geeks together and do something. once we have the r-button together enough, we'll get together.

We might want to invite Phil Goldsmith of Radio Paradise down to IIW. He's not too far away.

iCard/rCard insights.

Learnings from iPhone app. It was essentially a way to discover MP3 files online and in some way relate to the artist who created it. It was designed for radio programs, but it could be any MP3s. Let's you rate, donate, send messages, and get support, each of which are relationship actions. This was a way to get some input and feedback on what actions NPR stations would want to offer to users. It turns out it is very difficult to get across that the owner of the page is not in control--the user has some control. Trying to provide an interface that shows that "things are different" is an intriguing challenge because of the overriding expectation of users. COming up with a mechanism that breaks that assumption is going to be a big hurdle.

This is part of what we need to provide to vendors. The relationship action taken by the user that is stored or escrowed or discoverable by the vendor--this isn't just on a web page, it is in the context of services that go beyond the types of interactions we've had before.

For whatever reason, early in the history of the Internet, the concept of the individual wasn't really there. So part of our challenge is to put it there. To make it part of the game. Not just vendors providing a portfolio of services, but a relationship space that has both vendors and individuals in it.

Lot's of interesting feedback about perception of how people will react to the language and choices and possibility of VRM. There was great engagement on the "what if" questions.

Props to the Identity community for doing something that the open source community hasn't done. The reason CMS like Drupal and SimpleCMS suck is because they don't talk to each other. There is no IIW. No place for convergence. No energy and culture around working together. Part of that is because we are coming from the individual. The motion is a little brownian, but it's in the right direction.

===IIW===
Wednesday evening a working dinner. Thursday a full-day Steering Committee. Sunday will be a smaller meeting to hammer out IPR amongst those most experienced and most dependent on it (basically, those who either have something to add to IPR or have IP they need to have addressed properly).

We'll also do a session that overlaps with the Steering Committee meeting. Those of us onsite with confirm logistics and send an email out at the start of the meeting.

===VRM Hub Conference===
Unlocking the seesaw Nov 3 in London. Re-addressing the balance between vendors and users. 60+ users.

Monthly VRM meetings updated. Speaker at each session. Has a meeting space through Feb. The Mine! is warming up. They had a hacker session. Those interested in updates can contact her directly. samizdata@gmail.com

She will be in Mountain View on the 13th, but not attending IIW. Does want to attend the dinner on the 12th.

==Next Meeting==
*[[November 12 2008 Conference Call]] This is during IIW

October 29 2008 Conference Call

2008-10-29T17:51:59Z

Christophercarfi: /* Standards Meeting */

==Conference Call Notes==
Drafted by Joe Andrieu, October 29, 2008

==IRC==
#vrm at chat.freenode.net

==Other Calls==
[[Category:conference call]]
[[:Category:conference call]]

==Attendees==
* Joe Andrieu
* Dean Landsman
* Sean Bohan
* Iain Henderson
* Charles Andres (coming in a bit late)
* Brett McDowell
* Chris Carfi
* Doc Searls

==Agenda==
#Review Boston Meetings
##Standards Meeting
##Public Media Meeting
#r-button update
#Marketing committee update
#European update
#IIW

==Notes==

===VPI SIG===
Iain is leading a SIG at Liberty to push forward his Volunteer Personal Information initiative to free up the information that only individuals have access to today.

*Contracts
*Policy
*Legislation
*Technology

Everything needed to get it implemented.

Teleconference 2008/10/30 1PM ET/ 10AM PT

Doc will be working towards a draft "Declaration of Independence"-style document defining what is VRM for that teleconference.

12-18 month process. Teleconferences every two weeks. A face to face as well. Hopefully in Feb/March of 2009.

We want the VRM braintrust involved. Also the Identity Assurance braintrust, who have deep knowledge in compliance.

Goal is to build a case that there is a market and need here. Then build a normative standard. Then getting funding to operationalize a program.

Iain already has a bunch of work to kickstart the effort.
===VRM.ORG===
Renee Lloyd is taking the lead, working with Doc to make this happen.
===Website update===
Its getting fixed. We were attacked; so we are cleaning that up. We will have much of what everyone has been asking for. By the time of our next call, it should be up and running.

Doc clarifies that the web guys need to work with Sebastian to make it completely compatible with Berkman's operations. Which means porting to Drupal.

===Standards Meeting===
Two days in Boston. First, talking about PAM specification, especially around scope. Second, about r-button. We spent a lot of time talking about exactly what example r-button interaction we wanted to specify, ultimately choosing a Radio Paradise example where a playlist has several r-buttons embedded in the HTML, and '''those''' r-buttons are properly rendered based on relationship services subscribed to by the user and offered by the vendor, Radio Paradise in this case.

Key breakthroughs:
*[[http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/R-button_Functional_Specification]]
*Local Services
*Entities
*Relationship Actions (Rather than abstract "relationships")

Asa and Joe are working on a Demo for IIW that would show this more completely at IIW.

===Public Media/Radio Meeting===
17 people in the room at Berkman. This was to show folks how far we've come since the last workshop. We've had a few other meetings with them and VRM is now part of the lexicon in the public media conversation. Dana Rem and Barbara Appleby. Dana runs most of online at NPR and Barbara is a fundraising person at NPR. Keith's company, Public Interactive, is now owned by NPR and he's had a lot of good contact with both. We took a fairly conservative approach, focusing on something doable.

What we found is that not only did they "get it", they were enthusiastic about it.

As for what happens... there wasn't a clear action plan. Scott and Keith had mocked up a likely UI for an on-demand application for the iPhone. Turns out there are three ways to get content from the Web. Streaming (MP3 file without end). Podcasting, where you download the file. On-Demand, which is listen to this now. And it isn't downloaded and stored locally. The UI included the r-button and had interfaces for dealing with relationships with vendors/artists.

What Dana and Barbara made clear: They really want to keep us clear of their politics, which can be very stifling of new stuff. Let's get the geeks together and do something. once we have the r-button together enough, we'll get together.

We might want to invite Phil Goldsmith of Radio Paradise down to IIW. He's not too far away.

iCard/rCard insights.

Learnings from iPhone app. It was essentially a way to discover MP3 files online and in some way relate to the artist who created it. It was designed for radio programs, but it could be any MP3s. Let's you rate, donate, send messages, and get support, each of which are relationship actions. This was a way to get some input and feedback on what actions NPR stations would want to offer to users. It turns out it is very difficult to get across that the owner of the page is not in control--the user has some control. Trying to provide an interface that shows that "things are different" is an intriguing challenge because of the overriding expectation of users. COming up with a mechanism that breaks that assumption is going to be a big hurdle.

This is part of what we need to provide to vendors. The relationship action taken by the user that is stored or escrowed or discoverable by the vendor--this isn't just on a web page, it is in the context of services that go beyond the types of interactions we've had before.

For whatever reason, early in the history of the Internet, the concept of the individual wasn't really there. So part of our challenge is to put it there. To make it part of the game. Not just vendors providing a portfolio of services, but a relationship space that has both vendors and individuals in it.

Lot's of interesting feedback about perception of how people will react to the language and choices and possibility of VRM. There was great engagement on the "what if" questions.

Props to the Identity community for doing something that the open source community hasn't done. The reason CMS like Drupal and SimpleCMS suck is because they don't talk to each other. There is no IIW. No place for convergence. No energy and culture around working together. Part of that is because we are coming from the individual. The motion is a little brownian, but it's in the right direction.

===IIW===
Wednesday evening a working dinner. Thursday a full-day Steering Committee. Sunday will be a smaller meeting to hammer out IPR amongst those most experienced and most dependent on it (basically, those who either have something to add to IPR or have IP they need to have addressed properly).

We'll also do a session that overlaps with the Steering Committee meeting. Those of us onsite with confirm logistics and send an email out at the start of the meeting.

===VRM Hub Conference===
Unlocking the seesaw Nov 3 in London. Re-addressing the balance between vendors and users. 60+ users.

Monthly VRM meetings updated. Speaker at each session. Has a meeting space through Feb. The Mine! is warming up. They had a hacker session. Those interested in updates can contact her directly. samizdata@gmail.com

She will be in Mountain View on the 13th, but not attending IIW. Does want to attend the dinner on the 12th.

==Next Meeting==
*[[November 12 2008 Conference Call]] This is during IIW

October 29 2008 Conference Call

2008-10-29T17:51:37Z

Christophercarfi: /* Standards Meeting */

==Conference Call Notes==
Drafted by Joe Andrieu, October 29, 2008

==IRC==
#vrm at chat.freenode.net

==Other Calls==
[[Category:conference call]]
[[:Category:conference call]]

==Attendees==
* Joe Andrieu
* Dean Landsman
* Sean Bohan
* Iain Henderson
* Charles Andres (coming in a bit late)
* Brett McDowell
* Chris Carfi
* Doc Searls

==Agenda==
#Review Boston Meetings
##Standards Meeting
##Public Media Meeting
#r-button update
#Marketing committee update
#European update
#IIW

==Notes==

===VPI SIG===
Iain is leading a SIG at Liberty to push forward his Volunteer Personal Information initiative to free up the information that only individuals have access to today.

*Contracts
*Policy
*Legislation
*Technology

Everything needed to get it implemented.

Teleconference 2008/10/30 1PM ET/ 10AM PT

Doc will be working towards a draft "Declaration of Independence"-style document defining what is VRM for that teleconference.

12-18 month process. Teleconferences every two weeks. A face to face as well. Hopefully in Feb/March of 2009.

We want the VRM braintrust involved. Also the Identity Assurance braintrust, who have deep knowledge in compliance.

Goal is to build a case that there is a market and need here. Then build a normative standard. Then getting funding to operationalize a program.

Iain already has a bunch of work to kickstart the effort.
===VRM.ORG===
Renee Lloyd is taking the lead, working with Doc to make this happen.
===Website update===
Its getting fixed. We were attacked; so we are cleaning that up. We will have much of what everyone has been asking for. By the time of our next call, it should be up and running.

Doc clarifies that the web guys need to work with Sebastian to make it completely compatible with Berkman's operations. Which means porting to Drupal.

===Standards Meeting===
Two days in Boston. First, talking about PAM specification, especially around scope. Second, about r-button. We spent a lot of time talking about exactly what example r-button interaction we wanted to specify, ultimately choosing a Radio Paradise example where a playlist has several r-buttons embedded in the HTML, and '''those''' r-buttons are properly rendered based on relationship services subscribed to by the user and offered by the vendor, Radio Paradise in this case.

Key breakthroughs:
*[[r-button states http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/R-button_Functional_Specification]]
*Local Services
*Entities
*Relationship Actions (Rather than abstract "relationships")

Asa and Joe are working on a Demo for IIW that would show this more completely at IIW.

===Public Media/Radio Meeting===
17 people in the room at Berkman. This was to show folks how far we've come since the last workshop. We've had a few other meetings with them and VRM is now part of the lexicon in the public media conversation. Dana Rem and Barbara Appleby. Dana runs most of online at NPR and Barbara is a fundraising person at NPR. Keith's company, Public Interactive, is now owned by NPR and he's had a lot of good contact with both. We took a fairly conservative approach, focusing on something doable.

What we found is that not only did they "get it", they were enthusiastic about it.

As for what happens... there wasn't a clear action plan. Scott and Keith had mocked up a likely UI for an on-demand application for the iPhone. Turns out there are three ways to get content from the Web. Streaming (MP3 file without end). Podcasting, where you download the file. On-Demand, which is listen to this now. And it isn't downloaded and stored locally. The UI included the r-button and had interfaces for dealing with relationships with vendors/artists.

What Dana and Barbara made clear: They really want to keep us clear of their politics, which can be very stifling of new stuff. Let's get the geeks together and do something. once we have the r-button together enough, we'll get together.

We might want to invite Phil Goldsmith of Radio Paradise down to IIW. He's not too far away.

iCard/rCard insights.

Learnings from iPhone app. It was essentially a way to discover MP3 files online and in some way relate to the artist who created it. It was designed for radio programs, but it could be any MP3s. Let's you rate, donate, send messages, and get support, each of which are relationship actions. This was a way to get some input and feedback on what actions NPR stations would want to offer to users. It turns out it is very difficult to get across that the owner of the page is not in control--the user has some control. Trying to provide an interface that shows that "things are different" is an intriguing challenge because of the overriding expectation of users. COming up with a mechanism that breaks that assumption is going to be a big hurdle.

This is part of what we need to provide to vendors. The relationship action taken by the user that is stored or escrowed or discoverable by the vendor--this isn't just on a web page, it is in the context of services that go beyond the types of interactions we've had before.

For whatever reason, early in the history of the Internet, the concept of the individual wasn't really there. So part of our challenge is to put it there. To make it part of the game. Not just vendors providing a portfolio of services, but a relationship space that has both vendors and individuals in it.

Lot's of interesting feedback about perception of how people will react to the language and choices and possibility of VRM. There was great engagement on the "what if" questions.

Props to the Identity community for doing something that the open source community hasn't done. The reason CMS like Drupal and SimpleCMS suck is because they don't talk to each other. There is no IIW. No place for convergence. No energy and culture around working together. Part of that is because we are coming from the individual. The motion is a little brownian, but it's in the right direction.

===IIW===
Wednesday evening a working dinner. Thursday a full-day Steering Committee. Sunday will be a smaller meeting to hammer out IPR amongst those most experienced and most dependent on it (basically, those who either have something to add to IPR or have IP they need to have addressed properly).

We'll also do a session that overlaps with the Steering Committee meeting. Those of us onsite with confirm logistics and send an email out at the start of the meeting.

===VRM Hub Conference===
Unlocking the seesaw Nov 3 in London. Re-addressing the balance between vendors and users. 60+ users.

Monthly VRM meetings updated. Speaker at each session. Has a meeting space through Feb. The Mine! is warming up. They had a hacker session. Those interested in updates can contact her directly. samizdata@gmail.com

She will be in Mountain View on the 13th, but not attending IIW. Does want to attend the dinner on the 12th.

==Next Meeting==
*[[November 12 2008 Conference Call]] This is during IIW

October 29 2008 Conference Call

2008-10-29T17:51:01Z

Christophercarfi: /* Standards Meeting */

==Conference Call Notes==
Drafted by Joe Andrieu, October 29, 2008

==IRC==
#vrm at chat.freenode.net

==Other Calls==
[[Category:conference call]]
[[:Category:conference call]]

==Attendees==
* Joe Andrieu
* Dean Landsman
* Sean Bohan
* Iain Henderson
* Charles Andres (coming in a bit late)
* Brett McDowell
* Chris Carfi
* Doc Searls

==Agenda==
#Review Boston Meetings
##Standards Meeting
##Public Media Meeting
#r-button update
#Marketing committee update
#European update
#IIW

==Notes==

===VPI SIG===
Iain is leading a SIG at Liberty to push forward his Volunteer Personal Information initiative to free up the information that only individuals have access to today.

*Contracts
*Policy
*Legislation
*Technology

Everything needed to get it implemented.

Teleconference 2008/10/30 1PM ET/ 10AM PT

Doc will be working towards a draft "Declaration of Independence"-style document defining what is VRM for that teleconference.

12-18 month process. Teleconferences every two weeks. A face to face as well. Hopefully in Feb/March of 2009.

We want the VRM braintrust involved. Also the Identity Assurance braintrust, who have deep knowledge in compliance.

Goal is to build a case that there is a market and need here. Then build a normative standard. Then getting funding to operationalize a program.

Iain already has a bunch of work to kickstart the effort.
===VRM.ORG===
Renee Lloyd is taking the lead, working with Doc to make this happen.
===Website update===
Its getting fixed. We were attacked; so we are cleaning that up. We will have much of what everyone has been asking for. By the time of our next call, it should be up and running.

Doc clarifies that the web guys need to work with Sebastian to make it completely compatible with Berkman's operations. Which means porting to Drupal.

===Standards Meeting===
Two days in Boston. First, talking about PAM specification, especially around scope. Second, about r-button. We spent a lot of time talking about exactly what example r-button interaction we wanted to specify, ultimately choosing a Radio Paradise example where a playlist has several r-buttons embedded in the HTML, and '''those''' r-buttons are properly rendered based on relationship services subscribed to by the user and offered by the vendor, Radio Paradise in this case.

Key breakthroughs:
*[[http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/R-button_Functional_Specification http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/R-button_Functional_Specification]]
*Local Services
*Entities
*Relationship Actions (Rather than abstract "relationships")

Asa and Joe are working on a Demo for IIW that would show this more completely at IIW.

===Public Media/Radio Meeting===
17 people in the room at Berkman. This was to show folks how far we've come since the last workshop. We've had a few other meetings with them and VRM is now part of the lexicon in the public media conversation. Dana Rem and Barbara Appleby. Dana runs most of online at NPR and Barbara is a fundraising person at NPR. Keith's company, Public Interactive, is now owned by NPR and he's had a lot of good contact with both. We took a fairly conservative approach, focusing on something doable.

What we found is that not only did they "get it", they were enthusiastic about it.

As for what happens... there wasn't a clear action plan. Scott and Keith had mocked up a likely UI for an on-demand application for the iPhone. Turns out there are three ways to get content from the Web. Streaming (MP3 file without end). Podcasting, where you download the file. On-Demand, which is listen to this now. And it isn't downloaded and stored locally. The UI included the r-button and had interfaces for dealing with relationships with vendors/artists.

What Dana and Barbara made clear: They really want to keep us clear of their politics, which can be very stifling of new stuff. Let's get the geeks together and do something. once we have the r-button together enough, we'll get together.

We might want to invite Phil Goldsmith of Radio Paradise down to IIW. He's not too far away.

iCard/rCard insights.

Learnings from iPhone app. It was essentially a way to discover MP3 files online and in some way relate to the artist who created it. It was designed for radio programs, but it could be any MP3s. Let's you rate, donate, send messages, and get support, each of which are relationship actions. This was a way to get some input and feedback on what actions NPR stations would want to offer to users. It turns out it is very difficult to get across that the owner of the page is not in control--the user has some control. Trying to provide an interface that shows that "things are different" is an intriguing challenge because of the overriding expectation of users. COming up with a mechanism that breaks that assumption is going to be a big hurdle.

This is part of what we need to provide to vendors. The relationship action taken by the user that is stored or escrowed or discoverable by the vendor--this isn't just on a web page, it is in the context of services that go beyond the types of interactions we've had before.

For whatever reason, early in the history of the Internet, the concept of the individual wasn't really there. So part of our challenge is to put it there. To make it part of the game. Not just vendors providing a portfolio of services, but a relationship space that has both vendors and individuals in it.

Lot's of interesting feedback about perception of how people will react to the language and choices and possibility of VRM. There was great engagement on the "what if" questions.

Props to the Identity community for doing something that the open source community hasn't done. The reason CMS like Drupal and SimpleCMS suck is because they don't talk to each other. There is no IIW. No place for convergence. No energy and culture around working together. Part of that is because we are coming from the individual. The motion is a little brownian, but it's in the right direction.

===IIW===
Wednesday evening a working dinner. Thursday a full-day Steering Committee. Sunday will be a smaller meeting to hammer out IPR amongst those most experienced and most dependent on it (basically, those who either have something to add to IPR or have IP they need to have addressed properly).

We'll also do a session that overlaps with the Steering Committee meeting. Those of us onsite with confirm logistics and send an email out at the start of the meeting.

===VRM Hub Conference===
Unlocking the seesaw Nov 3 in London. Re-addressing the balance between vendors and users. 60+ users.

Monthly VRM meetings updated. Speaker at each session. Has a meeting space through Feb. The Mine! is warming up. They had a hacker session. Those interested in updates can contact her directly. samizdata@gmail.com

She will be in Mountain View on the 13th, but not attending IIW. Does want to attend the dinner on the 12th.

==Next Meeting==
*[[November 12 2008 Conference Call]] This is during IIW

October 29 2008 Conference Call

2008-10-29T17:50:26Z

Christophercarfi: /* Standards Meeting */

==Conference Call Notes==
Drafted by Joe Andrieu, October 29, 2008

==IRC==
#vrm at chat.freenode.net

==Other Calls==
[[Category:conference call]]
[[:Category:conference call]]

==Attendees==
* Joe Andrieu
* Dean Landsman
* Sean Bohan
* Iain Henderson
* Charles Andres (coming in a bit late)
* Brett McDowell
* Chris Carfi
* Doc Searls

==Agenda==
#Review Boston Meetings
##Standards Meeting
##Public Media Meeting
#r-button update
#Marketing committee update
#European update
#IIW

==Notes==

===VPI SIG===
Iain is leading a SIG at Liberty to push forward his Volunteer Personal Information initiative to free up the information that only individuals have access to today.

*Contracts
*Policy
*Legislation
*Technology

Everything needed to get it implemented.

Teleconference 2008/10/30 1PM ET/ 10AM PT

Doc will be working towards a draft "Declaration of Independence"-style document defining what is VRM for that teleconference.

12-18 month process. Teleconferences every two weeks. A face to face as well. Hopefully in Feb/March of 2009.

We want the VRM braintrust involved. Also the Identity Assurance braintrust, who have deep knowledge in compliance.

Goal is to build a case that there is a market and need here. Then build a normative standard. Then getting funding to operationalize a program.

Iain already has a bunch of work to kickstart the effort.
===VRM.ORG===
Renee Lloyd is taking the lead, working with Doc to make this happen.
===Website update===
Its getting fixed. We were attacked; so we are cleaning that up. We will have much of what everyone has been asking for. By the time of our next call, it should be up and running.

Doc clarifies that the web guys need to work with Sebastian to make it completely compatible with Berkman's operations. Which means porting to Drupal.

===Standards Meeting===
Two days in Boston. First, talking about PAM specification, especially around scope. Second, about r-button. We spent a lot of time talking about exactly what example r-button interaction we wanted to specify, ultimately choosing a Radio Paradise example where a playlist has several r-buttons embedded in the HTML, and '''those''' r-buttons are properly rendered based on relationship services subscribed to by the user and offered by the vendor, Radio Paradise in this case.

Key breakthroughs:
*[[r-button states http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/R-button_Functional_Specification]]
*Local Services
*Entities
*Relationship Actions (Rather than abstract "relationships")

Asa and Joe are working on a Demo for IIW that would show this more completely at IIW.

===Public Media/Radio Meeting===
17 people in the room at Berkman. This was to show folks how far we've come since the last workshop. We've had a few other meetings with them and VRM is now part of the lexicon in the public media conversation. Dana Rem and Barbara Appleby. Dana runs most of online at NPR and Barbara is a fundraising person at NPR. Keith's company, Public Interactive, is now owned by NPR and he's had a lot of good contact with both. We took a fairly conservative approach, focusing on something doable.

What we found is that not only did they "get it", they were enthusiastic about it.

As for what happens... there wasn't a clear action plan. Scott and Keith had mocked up a likely UI for an on-demand application for the iPhone. Turns out there are three ways to get content from the Web. Streaming (MP3 file without end). Podcasting, where you download the file. On-Demand, which is listen to this now. And it isn't downloaded and stored locally. The UI included the r-button and had interfaces for dealing with relationships with vendors/artists.

What Dana and Barbara made clear: They really want to keep us clear of their politics, which can be very stifling of new stuff. Let's get the geeks together and do something. once we have the r-button together enough, we'll get together.

We might want to invite Phil Goldsmith of Radio Paradise down to IIW. He's not too far away.

iCard/rCard insights.

Learnings from iPhone app. It was essentially a way to discover MP3 files online and in some way relate to the artist who created it. It was designed for radio programs, but it could be any MP3s. Let's you rate, donate, send messages, and get support, each of which are relationship actions. This was a way to get some input and feedback on what actions NPR stations would want to offer to users. It turns out it is very difficult to get across that the owner of the page is not in control--the user has some control. Trying to provide an interface that shows that "things are different" is an intriguing challenge because of the overriding expectation of users. COming up with a mechanism that breaks that assumption is going to be a big hurdle.

This is part of what we need to provide to vendors. The relationship action taken by the user that is stored or escrowed or discoverable by the vendor--this isn't just on a web page, it is in the context of services that go beyond the types of interactions we've had before.

For whatever reason, early in the history of the Internet, the concept of the individual wasn't really there. So part of our challenge is to put it there. To make it part of the game. Not just vendors providing a portfolio of services, but a relationship space that has both vendors and individuals in it.

Lot's of interesting feedback about perception of how people will react to the language and choices and possibility of VRM. There was great engagement on the "what if" questions.

Props to the Identity community for doing something that the open source community hasn't done. The reason CMS like Drupal and SimpleCMS suck is because they don't talk to each other. There is no IIW. No place for convergence. No energy and culture around working together. Part of that is because we are coming from the individual. The motion is a little brownian, but it's in the right direction.

===IIW===
Wednesday evening a working dinner. Thursday a full-day Steering Committee. Sunday will be a smaller meeting to hammer out IPR amongst those most experienced and most dependent on it (basically, those who either have something to add to IPR or have IP they need to have addressed properly).

We'll also do a session that overlaps with the Steering Committee meeting. Those of us onsite with confirm logistics and send an email out at the start of the meeting.

===VRM Hub Conference===
Unlocking the seesaw Nov 3 in London. Re-addressing the balance between vendors and users. 60+ users.

Monthly VRM meetings updated. Speaker at each session. Has a meeting space through Feb. The Mine! is warming up. They had a hacker session. Those interested in updates can contact her directly. samizdata@gmail.com

She will be in Mountain View on the 13th, but not attending IIW. Does want to attend the dinner on the 12th.

==Next Meeting==
*[[November 12 2008 Conference Call]] This is during IIW

R-button Functional Specification

2008-10-29T17:24:06Z

Christophercarfi: /* Universal Characteristics / Attributes */

(Some suggested spec categories if you're looking for a place to get started [[User:Khopper|Khopper]] 17:45, 2 September 2008 (EDT))

== Universal Characteristics / Attributes ==

== Core Capabilities ==

== R-button States ==

[[Image:pic1.jpg]]

== Expected Behavior ==

== Design Affordances ==

== Use Cases ==

R-button Functional Specification

2008-10-29T17:22:07Z

Christophercarfi: /* R-button States */

(Some suggested spec categories if you're looking for a place to get started [[User:Khopper|Khopper]] 17:45, 2 September 2008 (EDT))

== Universal Characteristics / Attributes ==
[[Image:Button_circles.jpg]]

== Core Capabilities ==

== R-button States ==

[[Image:pic1.jpg]]

== Expected Behavior ==

== Design Affordances ==

== Use Cases ==

R-button Functional Specification

2008-10-29T17:21:54Z

Christophercarfi: /* R-button States */

(Some suggested spec categories if you're looking for a place to get started [[User:Khopper|Khopper]] 17:45, 2 September 2008 (EDT))

== Universal Characteristics / Attributes ==
[[Image:Button_circles.jpg]]

== Core Capabilities ==

== R-button States ==

[[Image:pic1.jpg|600px]]

== Expected Behavior ==

== Design Affordances ==

== Use Cases ==

File:Pic1.jpg

2008-10-29T17:21:13Z

Christophercarfi: uploaded a new version of "Image:Pic1.jpg"