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What I'd like to do for the Berkman meeting is to come up with ideas for how that might be done. How we might separate the membership relationship from a simple, targeted contribution to a particular program. | What I'd like to do for the Berkman meeting is to come up with ideas for how that might be done. How we might separate the membership relationship from a simple, targeted contribution to a particular program. | ||
So, perhaps we can create a solution cobbling together some technologies, then start working through organizational and political issues to get the solution deployed. There's a national organization, each station has its own issues, and then each producer of the individual shows. All of three have their own concerns and challenges. | |||
Even if it doesn't work... Doc would like to see it fail for political rather than technical reasons. So lets find the technical solution and then work through the politics. | |||
==IIW 2007== | ==IIW 2007== | ||
Revision as of 13:07, 9 May 2007
Conference Call Notes
Drafted by Joe Andrieu, May 2, 2007
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Prior Conference Calls
Rather than do a standard subscribable podcast the calls are available for the list to download or stream. They are posted as mp3 files and can be accessed as follows:
May 2, 2007
March 21, 2007
March 8, 2007
- meeting notes 2007 03 08
- no audio
February 21, 2007
- no meeting notes
- audio 2007 02 21
February 8, 2007
Attendees
(please update with last names & IM if you'd like a backchannel during the call...)
- Joe Andrieu on JABBER: jandrieu@jabber.links.org
- Iain Henderson
- Dean Landsman
- Kevin Barron
- Doc Searls
- Matt Terenzio
- Drummond Reed
Status
| what | who | when | status |
| ---------- | ---------- | ---------- | ---------- |
| open id on wiki | david | no date | |
| static website development | doc, dean, joe, chris | no date | |
| group blog/RSS to wiki (venus) | doc | no date | up, but only one author |
| project VRM definition | doc | 1 week | still working on it |
| brainstorm Initiatives | all | ongoing | |
| Set up Jabber Host for conference calls | doc | no date | new |
Joe: remind Dean about transcript.
Notes
Agenda
Update from Doc on Brussels IIW June 4th Discussion User cases VRM weblog Web page Point from last call
Brussels
Identity Open Space, hosted by Bret McDowell and run by Kaliya Hamlin.
"Because of" effect rather than "becuase with" talk given by JP Ragaswami.
What Iain is working on is quite a detailed document on B2B VRM.
Ben Laurie invited Doc up to visit Google. He's one of the Apache leaders, now doing stuff for Google.
Good diagram that brought together a bunch of VRM-related concepts. The main thing that came out for Iain was the interest by the Liberty Alliance guys to contribute to VRM. He agreed to join the Liberty Alliance. His hope is that we will join him.
Doc mentions Paul Madsen (of Liberty) had already contributed to the wiki, but it went away.
Paul had presented a working framework that is already workable, using standards-based exchanges for VRM. Liberty is probably the most down-stream of the identity systems for data to be trustably exchanged in an enterprise framework.
One thing we should explore is how to match up technologies like Liberty, like what Iain is working on, with particular use cases and how that would play out. Doc is going to be talking tomorrow/Friday morning with some of the Higgins folks. Higgins is a framework for multiple identity systems. I'd like to outline where some of these different technologies fit in.
Adriana was also there. Iain and she will be meeting tomorrow to continue the conversation. She works with J&J among other companies. Doc met with them last October at a meeting. They are interested in exploring VRM and Adriana is the link into them.
IIW
Let's try to set up a call-in conference at one of the break-outs so that folks who can't be there in person can join in for a session.
June 4
At Berkman in Harvard, we've set up to have a meeting on VRM. Berkman has an affiliation with the Internet Study Center (or something like that) at Oxford. And they have a really good teleconference set up that might be useful for folks in the UK.
We'll be discussing VRM in the AM and public radio/media in the afternoon.
Public Media/Public Radio
On the ride back from Brussels, Doc & Ben had an interesting conversation about the public media effort and Ben thinks that particularly use case has a viable solution using a relatively small number of use cases.
The interesting challenge there is pulling apart transaction and relationship. Generally, it works today by buying membership from a station, which in part means an unending supply of junk mail and solicitations.
What I'd like to do for the Berkman meeting is to come up with ideas for how that might be done. How we might separate the membership relationship from a simple, targeted contribution to a particular program.
So, perhaps we can create a solution cobbling together some technologies, then start working through organizational and political issues to get the solution deployed. There's a national organization, each station has its own issues, and then each producer of the individual shows. All of three have their own concerns and challenges.
Even if it doesn't work... Doc would like to see it fail for political rather than technical reasons. So lets find the technical solution and then work through the politics.
IIW 2007
The next major live even for VRM development, evangelizing, and camaraderie is the Internet Identity Workshop in Mountain View, May 14-16. Many of us will be there. We hope you can join us.
Action Items
| what | who | when | status |