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- Subject: Re: [projectvrm] Attracting VRM/Me2B investments, VRM/Me2B Day
- Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:42:44 -0700
Having a healthy, trusting society would be good for business, no?
Surveillance in support of manipulation and oppression is not healthy or
good for business, and yet that is the group-think-supported mirage that
businesses (and many forms of governance) are acting on. It's a
hoarder's dilemma.
j.
On 9/16/19 11:18 AM, Doc Searls wrote:
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We know all those things. What we need to make are better cases that
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increased personal agency will be good for business.
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For example, if picos provide a standardized way for customers and
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companies to learn from each other, that's good for business.
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Likewise, intentcasting is a better way for a customer to become a
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qualified lead than for a company to track the person like an animal.
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Standardized agreements that are good for both sides (such
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as #NoStalking <http://customercommons.org/home/tools/terms/p2b1/>)
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can reduce many frictions, including GDPR compliance needs. The list
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goes on.
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Doc
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> On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Adrian Gropper
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> To Doc's second point on what will be good for business, I see these
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> perceived costs to business:
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> - Businesses prefer to be in control (reduced uncertainty)
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> - It’s expensive to give control to the customer (legal costs,
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> customization costs)
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> - Who else gets to format the questions? (reduced control)
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> - Ad-blockers and cookie managers reduce profit (complicated, but
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> there's little evidence of innovation)
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> Do we want to address these directly or do we need to change the
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> Adrian
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- Re: [projectvrm] Attracting VRM/Me2B investments, VRM/Me2B Day, Doc Searls, 09/16/2019
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