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Re: [projectvrm] Attracting VRM/Me2B investments, VRM/Me2B Day


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  • From: JClark < >
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  • Subject: Re: [projectvrm] Attracting VRM/Me2B investments, VRM/Me2B Day
  • Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:42:44 -0700

Having a healthy, trusting society would be good for business, no?

Surveillance in support of manipulation and oppression is not healthy or
good for business, and yet that is the group-think-supported mirage that
businesses (and many forms of governance) are acting on. It's a
hoarder's dilemma.

j.

On 9/16/19 11:18 AM, Doc Searls wrote:
> We know all those things. What we need to make are better cases that
> increased personal agency will be good for business.
>
> For example, if picos provide a standardized way for customers and
> companies to learn from each other, that's good for business.
> Likewise, intentcasting is a better way for a customer to become a
> qualified lead than for a company to track the person like an animal.
> Standardized agreements that are good for both sides (such
> as #NoStalking <http://customercommons.org/home/tools/terms/p2b1/>)
> can reduce many frictions, including GDPR compliance needs. The list
> goes on.
>
> Doc
>
>> On Sep 16, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Adrian Gropper
>> <
>> <mailto: >>
>> wrote:
>>
>> To Doc's second point on what will be good for business, I see these
>> perceived costs to business:
>> - Businesses prefer to be in control (reduced uncertainty)
>> - It’s expensive to give control to the customer (legal costs,
>> customization costs)
>> - Who else gets to format the questions? (reduced control)
>> - Ad-blockers and cookie managers reduce profit (complicated, but
>> there's little evidence of innovation)
>>
>> Do we want to address these directly or do we need to change the
>> question?
>>
>> Adrian
>>
>>
> ...



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