Re: [projectvrm] Facial recognition's 'dirty little secret': Millions of online photos scraped without consent

[Benjamin Goering < >]

>  Or, that people do not understand the full consequences of sharing their photos/info, which I think is more often the case.

As someone who makes web products, it doesn't seem like I should have to evaluate the education of each person before I let them use my service that they are actively trying to use. Heck, I don't even know the full consequences (good OR bad) of sharing my photos. Do you? Can anyone? Of course people don't understand them. Regulators don't either.

> Also, specifically on Flickr, but I did not think that photos from there were copyright free (not that there aren’t a whole lot of other sites out there).  Is this kind of use a copyright violation?

Flickr always had awesome features for tagging photos as creative commons and searching only for those that were not copyrighted, in both the HTML API and XML/JSON APIs. Not all were copyrighted.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:25 PM MXS Insights < "> > wrote:

Or, that people do not understand the full consequences of sharing their photos/info, which I think is more often the case.

Also, specifically on Flickr, but I did not think that photos from there were copyright free (not that there aren’t a whole lot of other sites out there).  Is this kind of use a copyright violation?

Michael Shea.

On Mar 13, 2019, at 4:05 PM, Benjamin Goering < " target="_blank"> > wrote:

I think it's a feature that I (or anyone) can download any image on the web.

Sometimes it seems like people want the benefits of publishing things to the world without any of the downsides, but it's a natural tradeoff. Any way of artificially interfering with that is going to be swimming upstream. The only way to win the "private publishing" game is not to publish.

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 7:17 AM Guy Jarvis < " target="_blank"> > wrote:

Rather like FB got started by scraping college year books without consent, there's a pattern here...

On Wed, 13 Mar 2019, 01:05 Dr. Augustine Fou, < " rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> > wrote:

@OliviaSolon: "Earlier this year IBM released a dataset of 1 million photos of people's faces designed to reduce bias in facial recognition software. I was surprised that the pictures were taken from Flickr & so investigated the origins of facial recognition datasets"

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/facial-recognition-s-dirty-little-secret-millions-online-photos-scraped-n981921

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