Who said that the U.S. comes up with the best solutions, they just have to try all the others first?
Thanks, John Wunderlich @PrivacyCDN Pleez 4give speling errurs, sent from a mobile device. On Feb 13, 2019, at 11:34, Tim Walters <
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> guess the bigger
story, as discussed in the IEEE call today, the reason why DNT failed is
because Silicon Valley killed it in spite of all research amongst
individuals showing the majority would wish non tracking to be the
default position.
Rather: Silicon Valley killed it because all research amongst
individuals showing the majority would wish non tracking to be the
default position. On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 7:36 AM Rob van Eijk <
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The fingerprinting argument is not really the issue here in my view. Obviously, some use the DNT setting, e.g., hotjar. The issue is that Apple's strategy is to protect privacy with ITP. It is a relatively blunt instrument in comparison with the potential of a granular DNT opt-int and opt-out signal. In general, industry has pushed back to the combination of the two signals into one channel. IAB techlab developed its own signal to propagate consent through the supply chain. Apple and Google have taken steps to take the opt-out signal out of their browser products. In sum, my view is that - in light of European legislation to allow the _expression_ of consent through browser settings - it is a mistake that the work on the Platform for Privacy Preferences Project (P3P) and Do Not Track (DNT) has recently been discontinued. The need for objecting or consenting by automated means using technical specifications is more timely than ever before. Regards, Rob -----Original message-----
From: Doc Searls
Sent: Wednesday, February 13 2019, 2:36 am
To: Dan Lyke
Cc: ProjectVRM list
Subject: Re: [projectvrm] Apple dumps Do Not Track from Safari
In other words, it's worth more to bad guys as one fingerprint point among many others (mostly in http header fields) than it is to a person as an _expression_ of intent.
Is there a list of other fingerprint points are there, besides those in headers?
Doc
> On Feb 12, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Dan Lyke <
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> On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 1:45 PM Doc Searls <
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>> Since I didn't know about it until I got the email, and this room knows
>> more than I do alone, I'd like to gather responses here before I
>> respond to the reporter (or report on it myself).
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> The release notes say "Removed support for the expired Do Not Track
> standard to prevent potential use as a fingerprinting variable." I
> think that says pretty much everything you need to know about trying
> to do any sort of solution that advertisers voluntarily comply with.
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> Dan
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