Re: [ON] {CC-Exec} Re: [projectvrm] Design Contest for "No Stalking" symbol

[Don Marti < >]

begin Doc Searls quotation of Fri, Jun 03, 2016 at 12:40:09PM -0400:

> Don first explained CHEDDAR here: 
> <http://blog.aloodo.org/posts/new-acronym/ 
> <http://blog.aloodo.org/posts/new-acronym/>>.

Let's make a CHEDDARscape -- if you have a CHEDDAR
tool, ad network, or other product or service, send
me a pull request with a logo, link, and a brief
description of why your thing is CHEDDAR.

  https://github.com/Aloodo/cheddarscape


> Doc
> 
> > On Jun 3, 2016, at 11:21 AM, mary hodder 
> > <
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> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Brian,
> > Cheddar is the technical framework that Don Marti worked up and shared 
> > with us at VRM day in April.
> > 
> > It's meant to allow non-stalking, not tracking based ads through, while 
> > barring other ads including those based upon tracking, buying and selling 
> > of data etc.
> > 
> > Read Doc's post here on the overall topic and Cheddar in particular. 
> > https://blogs.harvard.edu/vrm/2016/05/11/why-a-nostalking-deal-is-good-for-publishers/
> >  
> > <https://blogs.harvard.edu/vrm/2016/05/11/why-a-nostalking-deal-is-good-for-publishers/>
> > 
> > Don,
> > Not sure if Cheddar has it's own site now to describe the framework.
> > 
> > Mary
> > 
> > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:48 AM, Brian Erdelyi 
> > <
 
> >  
> > <mailto:
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> >  wrote:
> > Mary,
> > 
> > I'm not familiar with Cheddar.
> > 
> > I'm not sure how no stalking encompasses buying and selling of data.
> > 
> > With Clearware, I had icons to depict collecting of personal information 
> > and collecting of non-personal information.  I had another icon to 
> > respect that information was shared.
> > 
> > I was trying to use non biased language to depict common terms fond in 
> > EULAs.
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:40 AM, mary hodder 
> > <
 
> >  
> > <mailto:
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> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> Brian,
> >> No stalking vs. No tracking can be changed in the language, sure. One 
> >> reason we liked No Stalking is that it encompasses more than just 
> >> tracking: the buying and selling of data in addition to direct tracking, 
> >> the use of malware, etc.
> >> 
> >> Cheddar, as the technical framing for this, covers more than direct 
> >> tracking and so as a name for the button and the selection, No Stalking 
> >> attempts to map along with Cheddar.
> >> 
> >> What do you think about this?
> >> 
> >> mary
> >> 
> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 6:00 AM, Brian Erdelyi 
> >> <
 
> >>  
> >> <mailto:
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> >>  wrote:
> >> I think "no stalking" is fine as it could be done without ads.  Perhaps 
> >> even soften the language to "no tracking"?
> >> 
> >> B
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >> On Jun 3, 2016, at 12:29 AM, mary hodder 
> >> <
 
> >>  
> >> <mailto:
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> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hi Tim,
> >>> You're right.. we asked for "no stalking" not "no ads that reflect 
> >>> stalking or surveillance."
> >>> 
> >>> We can go back and ask for tuning, and also suggest that variant. 
> >>> 
> >>> Do you (and others) think we should ask for that change? or ask for 
> >>> iterations that reflect the additional understanding?
> >>> 
> >>> mary
> >>> 
> >>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 9:07 PM, Doc Searls 
> >>> <
 
> >>>  
> >>> <mailto:
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> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> On Jun 2, 2016, at 11:49 AM, Tim Walters 
> >>>> <
 
> >>>>  
> >>>> <mailto:
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> >>>>  wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> I read the design brief, and I have to say, none of them strike me as 
> >>>> intuitively indicating "I'll accept non-surveillance ads.”
> >>> 
> >>> Well, some of them don’t *not* say it. 
> >>> 
> >>>> #1260584, from jellareed, comes closest, in my view, but still doesn't 
> >>>> quite capture it. How about the old Mad Magazine Spy vs. Spy 
> >>>> character, holding a big magnifying glass, with an anvil about to fall 
> >>>> on his head? ;-) 
> >>> 
> >>> To me that one looks like a football with a “no placemarker” (or 
> >>> something) symbol on it.
> >>> 
> >>> While I like the magnifying glass element, I think it’s a bit too big 
> >>> and non-simple. But I can be swayed, maybe.
> >>> 
> >>> I like the bar through the eye. It says “no eye,” as in “no spying.” Or 
> >>> could. The barred eye in the rectangle (meaning screen, like on a 
> >>> computer or a phone) in #1258971 
> >>> <http://www.hatchwise.com/entry-for-973133-1258971-6939> makes sense to 
> >>> me. Larger format: 
> >>> http://www.hatchwise.com/entry-for-973133-1258971-6939 
> >>> <http://www.hatchwise.com/entry-for-973133-1258971-6939>.
> >>> 
> >>> I get that they’re using green because that’s a Customer Commons symbol 
> >>> color. (Or at least I think that’s why they’re using it.) But green 
> >>> also means “go." Wonder how the one above would look with red 
> >>> substituted for green?
> >>> 
> >>> More thoughts?
> >>> 
> >>> Doc 
> >>> 
> >>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 8:17 PM, mary hodder 
> >>>> <
 
> >>>>  
> >>>> <mailto:
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> >>>>  wrote:
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Take a look:
> >>>> http://www.hatchwise.com/logo-design-for-contest-973133 
> >>>> <http://www.hatchwise.com/logo-design-for-contest-973133>
> >>>> 
> >>>> There are 23 entries.. a couple are very interesting.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Please send feedback to me or for the list to discuss. Contest is up 
> >>>> in 4 days.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thank you,
> >>>> mary
> >>>> 
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