Re: [projectvrm] Independence & non-engagement (or encrypted engagement)

[Doc Searls < >]

Another link to OpenWhisper is here to its parent: 
<https://whispersystems.org>.

Just added them to our developers page: 
<http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/projectvrm/VRM_Development_Work>

Doc

On Sep 5, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Doc Searls 
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> Well put. +1.
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> Doc
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> On Sep 5, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Dan Lyke 
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>> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Doc Searls
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>>> Just got pointed to this iOS app:
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>>> <http://www.idownloadblog.com/2011/06/08/unsecured-calls-warning/>
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>> Yabbut: That's just delegating responsibility on to the cell phone
>> network providers, and trusting them.
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>> We have no reason to do that, and the only thing something like this
>> provides is a false sense of security.
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>> Better we should be encouraging the adoption of device-to-device
>> encryption and not depending on the intervening infrastructure to be
>> secure. Tools like those from http://www.openwhisper.com/ are way
>> better than "of the tens of possible exploit points between your
>> devices, the one between your phone and the tower appears to be
>> functioning properly".
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>> Dan
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