Hi John! Replicounts looks like a well developed idea... and seems like it could have some unique capabilities. But I'll have to admit it has me a little confused as well which is a barrier to adoption. I'm finding that whenever trying to get something across... at least in order to develop public interest or support... its necessary to find some way to express its purposes simply.(clearly I'm just great at this which is why I've also been at it seven years and now live in my sister's living room ;)For my own part... I'm looking to address the essential need for an X-box similar payment system... without the X-box... available for use across the Internet... but with user ownership and governance.(I actually was talking about the micropayment before x-box switched from x-box points to straight purchases on their system)There are many potential uses for such a system... but for me the driving force is to alter the political landscape by offering a pathway for 'heat-from-the-bottom' and a means to practically drive financial reform. I believe a one-click method for the very small contribution (low threshold for click through) WILL do that... almost instantaneously.And frankly, in my opinion the Internet giants have an OBLIGATION to enable me and others to click a button and give small amounts to 'lobby' for my interests.... so long as they're going to be lobbying themselves. (and paradoxically enabling this will require some agreement and acquiescence by these near-monopoly landscapes.And it also has to be available to new entrants in their fields w/o monopolization of the capability by those same giants which would inhibit those competitors.And as a trans-national endeavor (in the same way Google, Facebook and Microsoft (etc.) ARE but nations AREN'T)... it puts another player at the table. (So at the next Davos event we can send representatives of our ownership... which may well be a diamond miner from the Congo and a refugee form Syria)Global systems are developing which are privately dominated... especially in banking and transaction. I can't tell you how imperative I believe it is to build at least ONE of those trans-national systems with built-in obligations to its ownership (i.e. everyone).This is that opportunity. I believe this will be eventually recognized... I just hope its before its too late.For my part... I want my stolen bungalow returned... and an X-box One. Then everyone can go take a hike. But first they need to open their ears and listen. Silicon Valley is unfortunately very tribal.Tom CrowlOn Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:35 PM, John S James < " target="_blank"> > wrote:That's one of my goals at http://www.replicounts.org/. My system could provide software infrastructure to greatly facilitate a generic one-click payment process.Instead of a patent pool (like Linux Defenders), I chose defensive publication to protect it. I don't want my work to be patentable by anyone, including me.The big problem is that the idea has proven too bizarre for people to understand. No serious interest in five years. I'm doing other projects now, but later could write proof-of-principle software myself if necessary.JohnOn Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Tom Crowl < " target="_blank"> > wrote:
Thanks... my thought on the best available still unexploited "Internet function" that could play a role here is a one-click transaction capability OUTSIDE of closed proprietary systems like x-box or Amazon:The requirements for such a capability are likely to make such a service potentially very useful, ubiquitous and LARGE.The goal is one-click payment capability (including but not necessarily limited to a micropayment) available across multiple Internet pathways (e.g. as opposed to a capability restricted to a closed proprietary silo like x-box, Amazon, etc).. I believe this is an inevitable capability... and a very big deal.And offers an opportunity to develop such a dominant utility under ownership and governance guidelines that may represent new ways of thinking.Since I also believe it can be very profitable (whether or not that's the path to be taken)... I believe it requires patent protection if possible to avoid capture by narrow interests who recognize that potential.(in other words... if left to a normal evolution it will almost certainly either never appear... OR arise as a sort of Inter-provider agreement (meaning both Payment and Identity providers) similar to Clear-X-Change (an Interbank transfer system).I think a different model is very important here and the chance shouldn't be missed.Tom CrowlOn Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 4:17 PM, William Dyson < " target="_blank"> > wrote:Tom Great Stuff !!!Have been developing on this kind of tech for 20 years…..Much of it exist…..A team in Oakland is bringing the next iteration of this to lifeWilliamOn July 9, 2014 at 3:12:42 PM, Tom Crowl ( " target="_blank"> ) wrote:
RE: " to think much more carefully about the value of our personal data, whether we are happy to sell it or not and if so, for how much."I agree. But my hope is that any method(s) for compensation if and when its ever figured out... should be in some form which benefits ALL equally. In other words that Steve Balmer should get the same compensation as a diamond miner in the Congo. This isn't some 'pie-in-the-sky' idea... but a recognition of the inherent forces which tend to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. This could be part of an equalizing force.This is one of the thoughts behind establishing certain fundamental Internet functions under a system of universal ownership... (one user, one share, non-transferable, expires with death) whereby "dividends" are distributed to ALL equally. (an interesting twist on "privatization")... and that can work with existing silos... or a world of 6 billion individual silos.
Tom Crowl
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Sean Bohan < " target="_blank"> > wrote:
"That’s an interesting insight into the way people assign a monetary value to their personal information. And it could have important implications for the future. It seems clear that the focus on protecting personal information is likely to become greater. But it also looks clear that some kind of market for personal data will emerge.
Just how that will happen is anybody’s guess. But one way or another, we are all going to have to think much more carefully about the value of our personal data, whether we are happy to sell it or not and if so, for how much."
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