Re: [projectvrm] [personal-clouds] How Web 2.0 killed the Internet

[Johannes Ernst < >]

On Jun 5, 2014, at 11:42, Phil Windley 
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 wrote:

> Yes, I think it does. I think each entity (regardless of whether it’s a 
> person, place, things, organization, concept, or sub division of such) 
> should be representable online. 

Yes! Interestingly, for much of what those entities do or can do online, 
there is very little difference between whether it is a human entity, or a 
thing entity. This has interesting implications.

If you remember my LID digital identity proposal from almost 10 years ago -- 
which curiously enough has been sort-of reinvented recently by Marcus Povey ( 
http://www.marcus-povey.co.uk/2014/05/29/friend-only-posts-and-openpgp-sign-in-on-a-distributed-social-network/
 ) -- one of the things it did was not distinguish between human and 
non-human actors, as I called them. That was not met with comprehension at 
the time, I'm afraid to say. Everybody was very busy focusing on human 
signing in website with browser at the time.

What we need is "social" fabric that is:
 * decentralized on all levels
 * locally-administered (no administrative overlord)
 * uniform with respect to people vs other entities/actors (things, 
organizations, animals, even pure software "agents") -- one of the many 
things that means is that web browsers cannot in any way be special; most of 
the entities/actors don't use one

and that, as Phil says, naturally can represent, in cyberspace, what is going 
on in meat space. Plus of course many other things that don't have an 
equivalent in meat space.

Go. :-)

Cheers,



Johannes.