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Re: [projectvrm] Wired article on Indie Box… Ownership vs Outcomes


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  • From: Panagiotis Stathopoulos < >
  • To: Graham Reginald Hill < >
  • Cc: Johannes Ernst < >, ProjectVRM list < >
  • Subject: Re: [projectvrm] Wired article on Indie Box… Ownership vs Outcomes
  • Date: Tue, 13 May 2014 12:01:57 +0300
Hi all,
My personal view is that while your comment wrt renting instead of owning hw while correct in principle, the matter of fact is that when you "rent", or more importantly you are given free use of resources, usually you give up a degree of freedom and control, at a level "above" and "higher" than the resource you are renting. 
 
This question is set on the 'Age of Access' and along with the opportunities are lot of implicit dangers. Optimally you could have the capability to rent resources in a transparent way and over APIs that permit this, unfortunatelly there is no marketplace for that. 
You could have an indie box transparrent in an IaaS Cloud as a solution towards your proposal (and I suppose that this is possible), but my feeling is that this would be to technical for most users while probably more expensive! A C2C market as you describe would be also great but for the time beeing relevant examples (e.g. Diaspora etc) have not seemed to work. 
In this sense moves like indiebox etc. are towards a direction we must go. Hopefully in the end also an IaaS marketplace for indiebox instances or even better a C2C resource sharing platform  would be a solution to the problem you are mentioning. 

Regards
Panagiotis


On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Graham Reginald Hill < " target="_blank"> > wrote:
Hi Johannes
 
Your comment that, "the time has come for owning our own hardware, and rebuilding the internet as a society of owners" is interesting. If anything, the rise of B2B servitisation (https://connect.innovateuk.org/documents/416351/3926914/Servitization+impact+study.pdf/5b31740a-56ff-41c2-bdc8-e4289353fa66) , B2C leasing and the C2C collaborative consumption (http://www.rainforest-alliance.org/sites/default/files/uploads/3/roo-rogers-redscout.pdf) models point in exactly the opposite direction.
 
Why would you want to own a rapidly depreciating piece of hardware that will be obsolete in a few years time when you can rent it instead, get the outputs it creates, or better still, get the outcomes you desire instead.
 
Best regards from Edinburgh, Graham 
 
 
Wired has a great article on Indie Box.

It went on-line this morning, and already has 1300 Facebook likes. (Yes, the irony!)

http://www.wired.com/2014/05/out-in-the-open-indie-box/

This tells me the time has come for owning our own hardware, and rebuilding the internet as a society of owners, not renters or sharecroppers.

Cheers,



Johannes.
 


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