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RE: [projectvrm] digital-footprints-the-journey-from-business-intelligence-to-analytics


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  • From: "T.Rob" < >
  • To: "'Doc Searls'" < >
  • Cc: "'James Pasquale'" < >, "'ProjectVRM list'" < >
  • Subject: RE: [projectvrm] digital-footprints-the-journey-from-business-intelligence-to-analytics
  • Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:40:58 -0500
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Odd... Sorted on Newest but I don't see your comment.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doc Searls
> [mailto: ]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 13:17 PM
> To: T.Rob
> Cc: James Pasquale; ProjectVRM list
> Subject: Re: [projectvrm] digital-footprints-the-journey-from-business-
> intelligence-to-analytics
>
> I just went ahead and posted this:
>
> > I would suggest listening to the marketplace on this issue. Here are
> three links packed with clues:
> >
> > http://downloads.pagefair.com/reports/the_rise_of_adblocking.pdf
> >
> > http://qz.com/120797/over-one-fifth-of-people-use-ad-blocking-software
> > -and-its-beginning-to-hurt/
> >
> > http://www.google.com/trends/explore?q=adblock#q=adblock&cmpt=q
> >
> > I also advise reading what Don Marti has been writing lately:
> http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ It's strong medicine, but it should make clear
> how far apart markets and marketing have drifted.
>
> The short URL for the whole thing: http://linkd.in/1i6ms3B
>
> Doc
>
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 11:43 AM, T.Rob
> < >
> wrote:
>
> > Here is the response I posted...
> >
> > Don't be fooled. It very much *is* about privacy. When surveillance
> > was based on atoms, Newtonian physics limited the amount and nature of
> > information about you that could be collected without your knowledge.
> > Because it was expensive, deep surveillance was only practical against
> > selected, high value targets. But today your bit trail can be
> > collected continuously, with extremely fine granularity, correlated to
> > your physical offline activities, stored indefinitely, and all at an
> > incremental per-person cost of near zero. Anyone who believes this is
> > a difference in degree rather than a difference in kind is deluded.
> >
> > We never developed the legal and policy frameworks to deal with
> > panoptical surveillance because it has never been possible - up to
> > now. We ABSOLUTELY need to reconsider our legal and policy frameworks
> > in light of the new digital capabilities. Furthermore, time is of the
> > essence because each new digital intrusion into our private lives
> > establishes a precedent that will be extremely difficult to roll back
> later.
> >
> > Unfortunately, we are more likely to ignore these aspects until the
> > consequences are so harmful that they can no longer be convincingly
> denied.
> > This idea that privacy concerns are overblown is the red herring and
> > it's starting to stink up the server room.
> >
> > ...please feel free to "like" the VRM-friendly replies so they show up
> > in the "Popular" tab. Currently, you have to click on "Newest" just
> > to see mine or Tony's.
> >
> > -- T.Rob
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: James Pasquale
> >> [mailto: ]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:27 AM
> >> To: ProjectVRM list
> >> Subject: [projectvrm] digital-footprints-the-journey-from-business-
> >> intelligence-to-analytics
> >>
> >> Anyone up to replying to this one after all it is Geoffery Moore and
> >> that is all I'm going to say.
> >>
> >> http://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20131111183317-110300724-
> >> digital-footprints-the-journey-from-business-intelligence-to-analytic
> >> s
> >




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