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Re: [projectvrm] CloudOS


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  • From: Peter Cranstone < >
  • To: Phil Windley < >
  • Cc: Doc Searls < >, ProjectVRM list < >, 'Drummond Reed' < >
  • Subject: Re: [projectvrm] CloudOS
  • Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:33:25 +0000
  • Accept-language: en-US

It will work either in an XDI enabled browser or in an XDI enabled app
with an ambient interface (not sure what an ambient interface is). We have
an XDI enabled mobile browser so naturally it gets my vote for the
transmission of data and also a really simple interface. You can come up
with an app tomorrow and we can replicate everything inside the browser
overnight - versus trying to build a cross platform app which requires too
much investment.

After watching your video the interaction takes place inside the browser,
why? Because it's a simple interface. IMO why confuse the consumer with
something new to learn on other devices. For VRM to work you have to have
a high adoption rate, changing interfaces introduces friction into that,
and from the stats I've seen the (real world data) the usage drops off
incredibly quickly.

Remember all of this has to integrate into existing vendor infrastructure
- in every meeting I've been in Network Admins are not receptive to new
protocols or opening up additional ports in to their networks. VRM will
not have a single answer - VRM is a concept that can be implemented using
various approaches - the customer and vendor will ultimately decide who
has picked the right approach and the right interface.


Peter




On 9/12/13 10:19 AM, "Phil Windley"
< >
wrote:

>
>I don't think that the browser is the place where this will get the most
>use. In fact, I envision most of the interactions with CloduOS being done
>by other services and devices on the user's behalf. The user will use a
>browse or mobile app to configure that system, but I want the
>interactions to happen away from the device. Ambient interfaces, if you
>will.
>
>On Sep 12, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Peter Cranstone
>< >
> wrote:
>> On second thoughts after watching the video etc., you can do this
>>without
>> an XDI enabled browser. All you need to do is build XDI enabled
>> applications, although IMO that's more complicated and comes with the
>>risk
>> of figuring out how to extract real value with the app (i.e. give it
>>away
>> for free but charge for the service). Scaling it across multiple OS's is
>> also more complex but certainly doable with the right investment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/11/13 3:37 PM, "Peter Cranstone"
>> < >
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like a perfect fit for an XDI enabled browser.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/11/13 5:22 AM, "Doc Searls"
>>> < >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Phil Windley has put up an excellent short site on CloudOS, an open
>>>> source OS for personal clouds. It's at http://cloudos.me.
>>>>
>>>> Check it out. And help out too. As you can see from missing future
>>>>links
>>>> in the site, CloudOS is still new and needs more programmers working
>>>>on
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Doc
>>>
>>
>
>




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