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Re: [projectvrm] A VRM/PDS dream come true :-)


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  • From: Peter Cranstone < >
  • To: Kevin Cox < >, Joyce Searls < >
  • Cc: Alan Mitchell < >, Matt Hogan < >, Daniel Kaplan < >, ProjectVRM list < >
  • Subject: Re: [projectvrm] A VRM/PDS dream come true :-)
  • Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 23:33:21 +0000
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Well I hate to be the party pooper here but that's not quite true. You can scatter the data all you want, but you better have a really good authentication method that is multi factor, otherwise I just have to use your device to hook in to it. In other words – I'll be you, and then I can access the data. And the other issue is how do I remember where all this data is, and what the relationships are to whom?  

IMO VRM has to be a lot simpler – people can barely manage email and Facebook, let alone all these 'clouds' with all their data in it. It's like having your possessions spread out across multiple homes around the globe and then remember who has access to your a particular set of shoes in a closet.

I've been reading Phil Windley's blog on just buying a motorcycle: A VRM scenario using personal clouds. Check out this picture… There's 8 clouds that all have to be up and running with supported connections and the appropriate security. That's some serious coding!

And see those two banks down there – it is NOT trivial to get a bank to make changes to its infrastructure unless there's something in it for them versus the alternative of Alison either writing a check or calling the bank for a loan after she's found the bike she wants.




This shows that the idea of keeping all your own personal data in your own vault is fundamentally flawed - if you want to keep things private.  If you want privacy you want others to store information about you in their own data stores.  That way our information is scattered around the internet and to at it someone has to break into all those stores.  Of course we want to be able to access it when we need to but let others keep it and let them take responsibility for looking after it and keeping it from others.  This the system we have at the moment with one difference.  Today we do not have access to our own information.  Tomorrow we will and VRM will become a reality.

Kevin


On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Joyce Searls < " target="_blank"> > wrote:
Time to review the Onion video from 2011, that Doc used in several speeches at that time :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVX7K4gAKas

J

On Jul 3, 2013, at 9:01 AM, Alan Mitchell < "> > wrote:

> I love the 'key partners' bit!
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> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Matt Hogan < "> > wrote:
> We actually put out something similar a few weeks ago. I figured I'd share it with the group given the nature of the thread.
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> http://getprsm.com/
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> 2013/7/3 Daniel Kaplan < "> >
> We dreamt it, they made it happen. 'Nuff said:
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