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[Mary Hodder < >]

Dennis,

The project VRM list:  Project VRM 
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-  has about 700+ people on it.. and it's been around for 7 years, working on 
development of VRM, personal data, cloud, personal data store, privacy and 
personal data ecosystem topics

The personal-clouds list: 

- has about 70 people, many of whom are on the VRM list.. and has been around 
for 3 months.. taking about personal data and clouds, privacy, personal data 
ecosystem, etc.

Most of the heavy posters are on both lists.. which is why are seeing so much 
overlap.

If someone posts to both lists, and I want to reply, I get a total of 6 email 
(including the two bounces because I manage my gmail lists differently than 
other lists) and have to send 2 times.. all of which takes up about 5-8 
minutes of time, depending on what the situation is.

It's annoying.. it would be nice if we could get on one list and stop this.. 
because for us on both, it's happening a lot.

Mary


On Apr 11, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

> As a subscriber to only one of the lists, it is difficult to see the 
> problem that Mary has.
> 
> I haven't seen that much cross-posting on [personal-clouds].  I usually do 
> not continue cross-postings in replies I make. Since I don't know what 
> another list's conversation is, I don't cross-post back because I have no 
> context and I don't want to spam the other conversation.  That means I 
> contribute to the problem of cross-postings ending up in forked, 
> uncoordinated conversations.
> 
> It seems to me that those who cross-post are the only ones who can assess 
> whether the possible forking and off-topic cross-rejoinders are good 
> reasons not to cross-post in the first place.
> 
> - Dennis
> 
> PS: I also have no idea how and why this list was created, but it is closer 
> to my personal interests than the overall VRM topic.  I don't think 
> personal clouds are a subset of VRM, although they may be material to VRM.
> 
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> Subject: Re: [personal-clouds] [projectvrm] Cookie Doom Already Appearing 
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> Can I ask, why are we doing this.. with two e-mail list addresses?
> 
> We talk about exactly the same things on both lists..
> and Clouds are a subset of the VRM topic
> and for me, I have two different email addresses that work for the lists.. 
> so I can't even reply-all
> and it's annoying to get TWO email.. for each post
> 
> So.. I ask, why are we doing this.. with two lists.
> 
> Why can't we just use the list with more people on it (VRM -- as it's been 
> around for 7 years)
> and get one email per thread?
> 
> mary
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