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Re: [projectvrm] SXSW is slowly moving in our direction


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  • From: Jon Lebkowsky < >
  • To: Brian Behlendorf < >
  • Cc: Doc Searls < >, ProjectVRM list < >
  • Subject: Re: [projectvrm] SXSW is slowly moving in our direction
  • Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 09:00:06 -0500

It was great to see you at SXSW, Brian. I hardly made any sessions - too many
meetings, and there was the action in the streets. You make a good point re
QS hackers/makers vs $-driven projects, but I recall running into
conversations that were more oriented to the former, and realize we should be
seeding the Hackerspace crowds with QS thinking.

Jon Lebkowsky
Polycot Associates http://polycotassociates.com
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:42 AM, Brian Behlendorf
< >
wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Mar 2013, Doc Searls wrote:
>> On Mar 12, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Brian Behlendorf
>> < >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I went to a quantified self session, and the idea that the person this
>>> data is all about should be in charge of where that data is and able to
>>> combine it from different products/vendors was relevatory.
>>
>> Meaning it was a dawning of realization for people there? If so, wow.
>
> Almost. It was this session:
>
> http://schedule.sxsw.com/2013/events/event_IAP15589
>
> Two of the three speakers were device makers. One was a moderator who just
> did intros. The fourth, Gary Wolf, my dear friend and Hotwired
> co-conspirator, who is considered a "godfather" in QS as he has written
> extensively about it for Wired and some other channels, started his short
> speech by talking about how difficult it is to integrate the "learnings we
> get from each device ... I have to cut-n-paste from a web page into an
> excel spreadsheet to integrate data from my Nike Fuel Band with data from
> something else."
>
> Upon Gary's prompt, I suggested to the panel that there may be many
> consumers holding back from engaging in QS due to a perception that each
> device is creating separate silos of data being held by companies with whom
> there has never before needed to be a relationship of data trust, and that
> just gives lots of folks the creeps. At the other extreme are the device
> enthusiasts who have more than 1 or 2 devices and want to build dashboards
> to combine data - "learnings" - in a way more automated than cut-n-paste
> into excel. So I asked the panel - who is focused on solving that problem?
> What standards are emerging that the device makers are looking at, or that
> the hobbyists are starting to bootstrap?
>
> Maybe this was the wrong panel to ask that of, but the device makers went
> off on a tangent about sharing data with doctors and how complicated that
> all was due to that pesky HIPAA thing, which was both totally not the
> question I asked and also ironically a domain that is standardizing rapidly
> anyways. Gary simply didn't know of anyone trying to integrate the QS
> space, but felt strongly it should be done - a "someone aughta" rather than
> a "here's how". The rest of the audience Q&A continued to ask questions
> about data and privacy and terms of use, even if the device makers really
> would have rather kept telling you about the bra that will tell you if you
> have breast cancer, or the whole-house 3-D motion sensors that will learn
> your "behavioral genome".
>
> It was disheartening because I assumed the QS crowd was stuffed with Maker
> and Open Hardware types for whom locally aggregating data and controlling
> devices in a synchronized way would be second nature. But everyone's got
> the "big data = $$" addiction now, has been pummelled to "keep it simple
> for the end user", and look at hardware as the loss leader.
>
>>> I went to a Big Data meetup where we formed off into tables, and
>>> naturally I gravitated to the "data sharing platforms" table, and the
>>> conversation went from HBase and Hadoop to how to help the Microsoft ad
>>> developer and the Experian executive at the table work together. :(
>>
>> Not surprising. When I'm at that kind of thing I feel like I'm in the
>> antebellum South, listening to the plantation owners talk about how to get
>> more productivity out of their slaves.
>
> HA.
>
>> Well, enjoy the crowd. There is still plenty of fun in the halls, the
>> streets, the clubs and the restaurants.
>
> Seeing @amandapalmer play her Ukelele song while standing on a bar at a
> BMorg staff party was hard to top. Until the next night, which found us
> firing a potato gun off the deck of Richard de Cayeux's house.
>
>>> One hopeful sign - I had a conversation with Amit Kiran, an MBA and
>>> "Design Strategist" with Maya (the design tools company):
>>>
>>> http://www.maya.com/about/amit-kiran
>>>
>>> He said he'd just worked on a book on the relationship between big data
>>> and user-centered design; as in, how can we help individuals - more
>>> mortals - understand how to relate to the universe of their personal data
>>> floating out there, and design our apps in ways that address that. Or
>>> something - I can't find a link to the book yet, I'll email him and ask
>>> for it.
>>
>> Love to see it.
>
> As Drummond guessed, it indeed has to be "Trillions" he was describing, so
> maybe I was reading more into his description than I should have, but I'll
> add it to my queue regardless. Glad to hear that firm's engaged already in
> pclouds.
>
> Brian



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