Re: [projectvrm] Principles, personalities, anonymity and identity

[Charles Andres < >]

Hi, Johannes --

The need for a third party to 'vouch' for someone making a claim is necessary 
for some online interactions but obviously not all. I suspect you agree the 
number of transactions requiring an IdP is a small minority.

VRM is about commercial intention online interactions, and these types of 
transactions require some method to back up claims, especially when 
commercial transactions encounter exceptions.

While we are on the subject of commercial transactions and identity, take a 
look at the following:
http://www.economist.com/node/21529021

While personal identity is "tightly policed", corporate 'citizens' are not.  

 - Charles



On Sep 26, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Johannes Ernst wrote:

> 
> On Sep 24, 2011, at 7:54, Doc Searls wrote:
> 
>> This brings us to the core paradox of Digital Identity: all we've found 
>> that works, so far, requires an Identity Provider (Facebook, Google, 
>> OpenID, whatever). And, as long as we require an Identity Provider, we 
>> won't have true anonymity.
> 
> I'd like the question an underlying assumption here (that, admittedly, 99%+ 
> of all people make, and so it's rarely discussed):
> 
> Just why exactly do we need a third party that is an "identity provider"?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Johannes.
>