Re: [projectvrm] GUARDIAN: Facebook moves 15 billion users out of reach of GDPR

[elliot noss < >]

Hi Tim,

I took a quick look at your linkedin and did not see a legal background. You 
may be right. But, that is not the view of our inhouse counsel, our external 
counsel, two separate legal positions that have been provided (publicly) to 
ICANN, nor the view of DPAs who have come to successive ICANN meetings.

I would also distinguish (in the example in your article) between an EU 
citizen passing through the US and an EU citizen living there. If you were 
responding here to the EU citizen traveling through the airport than I agree 
and my reference was confusing.

Most importantly, the general approach is that questions like this (and there 
are MANY) will not be answered dispositively until something is challenged 
and takes the five years or so that it will take to get to the highest 
European court. This really requires companies to take a conservative view.

EN

> On Apr 19, 2018, at 10:05 AM, Tim Walters 
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> Sorry, Elliot, that's not correct. The GDPR does not apply to EU citizens 
> (living outside of the EU). I wrote about it here: 
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/three-biggest-lies-gdpr-tim-walters-ph-d-/
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> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:48 PM, elliot noss 
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> I cannot imagine how they can do this without massive tax implications. I 
> also think they cannot avoid the “ex-pat European problem” (an eu citizen 
> living in the us is covered). 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Apr 19, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Doc Searls 
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> > 1.5, but yeah. That’s pretty much the whole thing, after you subtract out 
> > the fake accounts.
> > 
> > This, of course, is one gigantic hunk of evidence that Facebook gives the 
> > opposite of a shit about privacy. Linkedin too. Also the U.S. government, 
> > whose oversight of all this resembles something between sleep and death.
> > 
> > Doc
> > 
> >> On Apr 19, 2018, at 9:28 AM, Joyce Searls 
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> >>  wrote:
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> >> https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/19/facebook-moves-15bn-users-out-of-reach-of-new-european-privacy-law
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