Re: [projectvrm] ePrivacy Directive

[John Philpin < >]

English Trailer on YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo3gziGgW_E

On Feb 4, 2018, at 11:20 AM, Tim Walters < " class=""> > wrote:

By the way, there is a great documentary, called Democracy, about the birth of the GDPR in the European Parliament, featuring Jan Philipp Albrecht, Viviane Reding, and a bunch of lobbyists. 

Here is the main German-language site, with many details not available elsewhere: http://www.democracy-film.de/

Here is a description and an excellent trailer with English subtitles, from a Dutch film festival site: https://www.idfa.nl/en/film/90a9eba8-3baf-4ff6-b9ff-d98930773c85/democracy

And here is the page from Amazon UK, where you can rent the film as VOD with English subtitles (plus there is another trailer): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Democracy-Jan-Philipp-Albrecht/dp/B07668HKXL/ref=sr_1_1?

I don't find it on Amazon.com. It's available on iTunes in Germany, but I don't even have access to the US store.

Cheers,

tw

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 7:18 PM, Rob van Eijk < " target="_blank" class=""> > wrote:

> Just to clarify (sorry, lawyer comment:o)): ePrivacy Regulation is not a Directive but Regulation. The difference is that while Directives must be implemented by each EU member state in their national legislation, Regulations are directly applicable as if they are national laws so no new national laws will be adopted. GDPR is also a Regulation.

 

Well, technically speaking, applicable yes, but to inter into force, a regulation needs to be implemented in national law (which requires an implementation law). Moreover, the GDPR offers some (but very little) room for national clarifications. (I am not a lawyer, but I know scholars have identified some areas).

 

The difference with a Directive is that it needs to be transposed and offers a lot more room for national differences, e.g. the recitals are not mandatory.

 

So in addition to what has already been said in this thread, I think it will be good to keep an eye on ALL national implementations of the GDPR as well.

 

Rob

PhD Candidate Leiden University

 

 

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Sent: Sunday, February 4 2018, 6:41 pm
To: Tim Walters
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Subject: Re: [projectvrm] ePrivacy Directive
 

Hi, I am to meet another from the key authors of GDPR next week. He is 
also from Germany and is now a senior adviser to the EC DG Justice (sg. 
like the Minister of Justice for the EU). I will try to get him to 
participate on this list and also comment on New York GDPR.

Just to clarify (sorry, lawyer comment:o)): ePrivacy Regulation is not a 
Directive but Regulation. The difference is that while Directives must 
be implemented by each EU member state in their national legislation, 
Regulations are directly applicable as if they are national laws so no 
new national laws will be adopted. GDPR is also a Regulation.

Take care,

Zbynek


Dne 2018-02-04 15:15, Tim Walters napsal:
> I met Jan Philip Albrecht -- the so-called father of the GDPR -- at an
> event in Berlin last week. He agreed that the ePR is not likely to be
> completed before the end of the year and may not take effect until
> 2020. However, when the GDPR takes effect in May, it will determine
> some of the practices currently regulated by the ePrivacy Directive.
> Jan said that the rather amusing upshot is that the privacy advocates
> may find they prefer the GDPR to the proposed ePR (likely to be
> watered down further, in fact) and start _supporting_ the delay, while
> conversely the lobbyists may find the GDPR application to electronic
> communications so onerous that they start pushing for the ePR to be
> adopted _sooner_!
> 
> I have to get better educated about how the GDPR and the ePrivacy
> Directive will apply until the ePR takes effect.
> 
> Cheers,
> tw
> 
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 1:30 PM, Doc Searls
> <
 
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 > wrote:
> 
>> We need to start talking about this. It goes hand-in-hand with the
>> GDPR, and provides additional context for what we develop together.
>> 
>> Links:
>> 
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPrivacy_Regulation_(European_Union)
>> [1]
>> 
>> 
> https://digiday.com/media/eprivacy-looming-german-publishers-scramble-get-users-logged/
>> [2]
>> 
>> 
> https://www.privacytrust.com/guidance/gdpr-vs-eprivacy-regulation.html
>> [3]
>> 
>> 
> https://martechtoday.com/right-behind-gdpr-theres-eprivacy-regulation-208717
>> [4]
>> 
>> Doc
> 
> 
> 
> Links:
> ------
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPrivacy_Regulation_(European_Union)
> [2]
> https://digiday.com/media/eprivacy-looming-german-publishers-scramble-get-users-logged/
> [3] 
> https://www.privacytrust.com/guidance/gdpr-vs-eprivacy-regulation.html
> [4] 
> https://martechtoday.com/right-behind-gdpr-theres-eprivacy-regulation-208717