- From: Don Marti <
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- To: Jonathan King <
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- Cc: Deborah Schultz <
>, Katherine Warman Kern <
>, =Drummond Reed <
>, Doc Searls <
>, Nathan Schor <
>, ProjectVRM list <
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- Subject: Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch
- Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 09:16:47 -0700
begin Don Marti quotation of Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 09:30:12AM +0300:
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begin Jonathan King quotation of Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:04:07PM -0700:
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> Good to point out that Apple is actually following a long standing
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> Microsoft strategy of designing and advocating for privacy as a
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> competitive differentiator.
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> http://benlog.com/2007/03/09/microsofts-competitive-advantage-privacy/
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MSFT has a bunch of high-level thought leadership
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privacy woo-woo, and they also have one of
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the easiest real tracking protection features
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(srsly, start up MSIE if you have it, and do this:
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http://blog.aloodo.org/posts/easyprivacy-for-msie/
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) but somehow they fail to connect.
One half of the missing connection seems to be out:
Mark Penn is no longer at MSFT.
http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/17/microsoft-shakes-up-its-leadership-and-internal-structure-as-its-fiscal-year-comes-to-a-close/
Somehow this co. has a best-in-class tracking
protection/ad enabling tool and they aren't making
a big deal out of it. Maybe whoever takes over that
area can do more with MSIE TPLs.
Related, comments on the recent Reuters Institute
Digital News report:
Michael Rosenwald
http://www.cjr.org/analysis/reuters_digital_news_report.php
"Readers deplore online ads, particularly the
personalized ones that follow them from site
to site."
George Brock
http://georgebrock.net/a-few-quick-takeaways-on-the-reuters-institute-digital-news-report/
"Trust in the news media, or lack of it, is
inextricably bound up with the credibility of the
political elite.
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Enormous numbers of people have installed
“ad-blocking” software: 47% in the US and 39%
in the UK."
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(I'm going to start up an app-based car share
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services that automatically detects the people in
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large companies who are working on different parts
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of the same problem, then puts them in the same
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car. It'll be huge!)
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> > On Jun 10, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Deborah Schultz
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> > Well said.
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> > Oh, the irony that in the end, these issues are making me "yearn" for
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> > the days of the 60 second spot and only the 60second spot. When we all
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> > stated - I hate advertising.
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> > Deborah Schultz
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> > Website | Linkedin: | Twitter
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> > Co-founder YxYY Festival- a unique gathering of geeks and creatives
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> > Founder, T.E.A.M Israel - Advancing Equine Athletics in Israel
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> > Co-founder Tummelvision - podcast exploring culture of the networked
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> > economy
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> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 5:49 AM, Don Marti
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> >> begin Katherine Warman Kern quotation of Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at
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> >> > There are two parts to beating Google at advertising. One is a more
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> >> > trustworthy device (or medium) yes. The other is the message -
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> >> > something the industry hasn't even begun to dig into.
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> >> Can't get people to pay attention to the message
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> >> until the scary crap is out of the way. Speaking of
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> >> Apple...
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> >> http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/06/10/uh-oh-apple/
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> >> Content Blocker is live in iOS 9 beta builds right
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> >> now, with the menu option explaining that “Content
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> >> Blockers affect what content is loaded while using
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> >> Safari” but offering no options until an app that
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> >> adds blocking functionality is deployed.
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> >> > One of the failures of digital vs. TV is that digital dumbs down the
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> >> Sure, and the rise of "desktop publishing" and
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> >> affordable MIDI synths in the 1980s made for an awful
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> >> several years of print design and recorded music.
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> >> Then people learned how to use them and when not to
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> >> push every button.
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> >> See that TNW article above? The big ad (which shows
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> >> up with Disconnect turned on) is attention-getting,
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> >> informative, and persuasive. We're finally getting
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> >> real ads on the web just as everyone is freaking out
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> >> about blocking the crappy ones.
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> >> > And then there's the reach problem referenced in the article:
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> >> > As much as linear TV deliveries are being eaten away at by online
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> >> > media, the study suggests that a radical reduction in TV spending
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> >> > can have a deleterious impact on ROI. Per MarketShare's modeling, a
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> >> > telecom brand that moves 20% of its TV dollars into online display
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> >> > can expect to see its sales drop 7%, largely as a result of its
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> >> > diminished reach.
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> >> More good news -- half of web ads are fraudulent, so
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> >> when those get fixed (mostly by tracking protection
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> >> weeding out the low-reputation players) the real ads
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> >> will be a decent choice.
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> >> > K-
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> >> > Katherine Warman Kern
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> >> > @comradity
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> >> > > On Jun 10, 2015, at 1:39 AM, Don Marti
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> >> > > The fun part would be if they are able to beat Google
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> >> > > in advertising as a side effect of building a more
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> >> > > trustworthy device.
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> >> --
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> >> Don Marti
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> >> http://zgp.org/~dmarti/
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--
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Don Marti
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http://zgp.org/~dmarti/
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Don Marti
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http://zgp.org/~dmarti/
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- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, (continued)
- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, Deb Personal email, 06/09/2015
- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, Doc Searls, 06/09/2015
- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, Adrian Gropper, 06/10/2015
- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, =Drummond Reed, 06/10/2015
- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, Don Marti, 06/10/2015
- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, Katherine Warman Kern, 06/10/2015
- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, Don Marti, 06/10/2015
- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, Deborah Schultz, 06/10/2015
- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, Jonathan King, 06/12/2015
- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, Don Marti, 06/13/2015
- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, Don Marti, 06/17/2015
- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, Katherine Warman Kern, 06/10/2015
- Re: [projectvrm] Ad Tech Is About To Get Boring, And That’s Good For Marketers | TechCrunch, Don Marti, 06/10/2015
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