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- From: "Philip Browning" < >
- To: "'T.Rob'" < >, "'Steven Groves'" < >
- Cc: "'ProjectVRM list'" < >
- Subject: ACTION RE: [projectvrm] John Oliver on Govt Surveillance
- Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:14:22 +1000
Isn’t it time to act rather than continue to throw up/discuss similar ideas. See the whole extended thread of late last year about why no one cares about privacy. My view is that everyone in the VRM community should be asked to chip in and the pooled money be used to then partner with an EDTEC based philanthropy fund, and others such as Mozilla/Aljazeera (based on previous resources/interests on the subject). This would then be used to develop a series of resources for schools. (including simulation of both the experience of ADTECH and the economic consequences (AKA – other people making buckets of money from it etc – enabling discussion about all the key things that get discussed on this list and that people here are passionate about – eg the ethics relating, identity, personal agency and the economic consequences (equity etc). There is no stronger alignment of the principles of VRM than to education (learning is after all about personal sovereignty and agency). Get it out there and create it so that it goes viral. I did a small amount of work in schools during the last 5 years. “Did You Know?/Shift Happens presentations” http://shifthappens.wikispaces.com/ went viral and became a hit resource which was used to stimulate debate and discussion in schools. The shift has happened so “the did you know” presentations are now dated and state the bleeding obvious – without providing the stepping off points for action. I think I may have suggested something on this list last year. Such an action would also create externally oriented set of actions that would create momentum/cause for collaboration in my view. Regards, Philip Browning. From: T.Rob [mailto:
] > If you / we are looking for popular support, we just need to frame the discussion in a way everyone can connect to. Whats the VRM equivalent? You mean you don't want to go with "junk" now that John Oliver has broken the ice? J One thing that occurs to me is to build on Brian Swichkow's experience and do some of our own tracking and targeting. Brian famously pranked his roommate with surgically precisely targeted ads, to the point that the guy was cowering in his room in the dark one day. I wonder whether we could do some of this in the name of research, targeting a willing volunteer population of course, then write up the results. I hesitate to propose this here because the marketers probably know if you are gay, for example, even though you may not be out. To make this relevant, we'd have to get information that the world would consider deeply personal (but NOT your junk) but that the volunteers have already revealed or are comfortable revealing. It would be dramatic if the experiment were so successful that all the subjects quit in anger over exposing more than they'd bargained for, but not terribly useful. I'm not sure how many volunteers we could get from *this* crowd, and chances are our budget would be stretched just paying for the targeted ads so unable to pay people to participate. My digital Cancer post already has an outline of the kinds of targeting we could do. Specific email addresses. Specific companies. Geolocation. Demographic data. Special interests. (https://ioptconsulting.com/online-advertising-is-the-new-digital-cancer/) Just a thought. Kind regards, -- T.Rob I have availability! For a good time (with IBM MQ) call: T.Robert Wyatt, Managing partner IoPT Consulting, LLC +1 704-443-TROB (8762) Voice/Text +44 (0) 8714 089 546 Voice Watched the whole segment and the lesson learned is that the packaging of the discussion was all wrong - 'personal privacy' and 'government monitoring' seem to be too esoteric for the common man, it's one or two steps way from what a citizen has to deal with - family, rent, food, kids, etc. Pictures of your junk in government databases? Well, no one wants that... If you / we are looking for popular support, we just need to frame the discussion in a way everyone can connect to. Whats the VRM equivalent? On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 6:02 AM, T.Rob <
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> wrote: John Oliver devoted ½ an hour to government surveillance. His premise was that nobody cares about surveillance unless you talk about it in terms of things they care about. So for the guys in the audience he boils it down to this: Can the government see pictures of your junk? Short answer? Yes, and this was confirmed by an expert and authoritative guest. The conclusion - if you stop taking pictures of your junk, they win. So don't stop. But to care and do participate in the conversation about the government's need for surveillance versus the citizen's right to security. It's John Oliver so despite the comedic and slightly raunchy take on the topic, it was well covered. I believe you will recognize his expert guest. Kind regards, -- T.Rob I have availability! For a good time (with IBM MQ) call: T.Robert Wyatt, Managing partner IoPT Consulting, LLC +1 704-443-TROB (8762) Voice/Text +44 (0) 8714 089 546 Voice No virus found in this message. |
- ACTION RE: [projectvrm] John Oliver on Govt Surveillance, Philip Browning, 04/09/2015
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