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Re: [projectvrm] RSA sat


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  • From: Florian Kleedorfer < >
  • To: Mike O'Neill < >, 'Doc Searls' < >, 'ProjectVRM list' < >
  • Subject: Re: [projectvrm] RSA sat
  • Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 10:15:55 +0200

Hi Mike,

I think I agree with you. Maybe I didn't put it quite right, so let my try to clarify:

* Privacy vs benefits of openness: There is a trade-off to be made. For example, I could publish all my 'needs' (intentions) online such that they are somehow tracable back to me (ip address, certificate/signature/webid, name, email address, etc.). That would make it relatively easy for independent services to find good matches for my needs because they can create an accurate profile of my interests; I benefit from good matches. However, I don't think I would want that because I think that the totality of my 'needs' (think: shopping list, furniture, moving, holiday, transportation (eg, taxi), ...) are something worth protecting. Nobody except me should be able to link any of them to me. So there's the tradeoff we made: we try to separate the 'need' from identity by allowing to use a new identity for each one, but not enforcing it - so you may (consciously) re-use identities if you like. In addition to that, we'll try to make the servers available as hidden services in the Tor network, so that This comes at the expense of probably less accurate matching.

* Payment solutions: The infrastructure we're building doesn't depend on any kind of payment solution, but our goal is to enable users to use any of them if they want. Many of the use cases we see don't involve money at all (such as finding a dancing partner, or fixing neighborhood problems)


Cheers,
Florian

Am 08.04.2015 um 22:14 schrieb Mike O'Neill:
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I liked it till the last sentence,

"Moreover, security and trust issues need to be addressed, and privacy concerns
have to be balanced with the benefits of openness. Finally, the infrastructure must be
connected to existing payment solutions so as to enable serious trading and allow it to
unfold its full potential."

There cannot be a trade-off between privacy and benefits, individual control does not need to be
"balanced" - that is where the rot starts. Same goes for having to connect to
existing payment solutions in order to be "serious". There may need to be an option for
them at first, but the system should be able to work without them from the off.

Mike





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