Re: [projectvrm] The NSA hits close to ... no, directly at: home

[Devon M T Loffreto < >]

Its not about either party... in my opinion the Republicans betrayed the small businessman... and the Democrats betrayed the Commons... and both are necessary.

I like that.

The 'structure' of participation yields the 'results' of participation. 

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Tom Crowl < " target="_blank"> > wrote:

The power imbalance between consumers and businesses are echoed in the imbalances between citizens and governments...

(consumers are also know as citizens in some circles)

And the alliances which form between high government levels and high corporate levels have are anchored in closely related networks of networks aligned by social class.

I believe no comprehensive solution to the VRM issue can be found w/o looking at these three components together. And that a general empowering of the 'bottom' if you want to call it that... is necessary to counteract the natural upward tendency of power and wealth which eventually becomes problematic.

I believe the entire shift of wealth upward that taken place over the last several decades is one colossal failure of vendor relationship management... between citizens and the corporatist duopoly. Perhaps that sounds radical but its not meant to be.

I'd suggest that the lack of effective 'voices' from the bottom over the last several decades (Powell memo, demonization of unions, denying bankruptcy protection for student loans, minimum wage stagnation, all productivity gains going to the top... etc., etc,, etc, ) is the comprehensive VRM issue that needs to be recognized and addressed.

Its not about either party... in my opinion the Republicans betrayed the small businessman... and the Democrats betrayed the Commons... and both are necessary.

Tom Crowl

http://CulturalEngineer.blogspot.com

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Don Marti < " target="_blank"> > wrote:

begin Doc Searls quotation of Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 10:36:03AM -0700:
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> Dig this:
>
> <http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nsa-linux-journal-extremist-forum-and-its-readers-get-flagged-extra-surveillance>

That regex seems to match this article, which is
probably the target...

http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/linux-distro-tales-you-can-never-be-too-paranoid

Would be interesting to see what other articles on
the site it matches.

Or, hey, do the whole FOIA thing.  You're likely
to get a bunch more readers just being part of the
Hacker Elite.

--
Don Marti
http://zgp.org/~dmarti/
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