| My comments to Robert and his replies.. on his original post yesterday midday https://www.facebook.com/RobertScoble/posts/10152488313244655: Mary Hodder Jeff Cone makes an interesting point above: "Unfortunately, too many people think way too much of themselves and truly believe they're being watched for some odd reason." How would you know you were being watched. The problem is you don't have notice on about 80% of the things you could be surveilled on.. only about 20% of the things you do, if you are "all in" are obviously going to places that share your data. Less if you use and expose less, explicity. Mary Hodder Robert, the problem is that people with a lot of privilege in their own cultures don't have to worry about people knowing what they do. They are often immune to criticism, or it's held back. For those without that kind of privilege, it's ugly. And it's not the edgy edge cases that are rarely there.. one of the reasons you don't hear about abuse is because the abused don't feel power to either combat the abuse or to then tell people once it's happened. Why do you think such a small percentage of those who have been raped or experienced sexual abuse come forward? 1 in 5 women in college will be raped.. but only about 10% come forward.. the rest tell someone 10 or 20 years later.. living with that. If 20% of the women in college are edge cases, if 10% of the populace who are gay are an edge case, if being african american and trying to get a financial service online is an edge case, and on and on.. well.. we are forcing at least half the populace who doesn't have the privilege to live like the privileged without their consent, if they are going to use digital services. And you pretty much can't function today without some online activity and a cell phone. My research shows that 92% of the populace has taken some regular action to hide some of their data, thinking it will give them some data control (it doesn't.. it's an illusion of control.) I'm sorry you're tired of people trying to create some data control from themselves, but you are actually the edge case.. in your data exhibitionism. And having compassion for those who don't have your privilege doesn't seem very humane. And I think you do care about people.. so I guess I would ask: do you really mean to say what you said above: that you are tired of the privacy advocates? Because those privacy advocates are trying to help the less privileged not experience the kinds of harm and hurt that you'll likely never face, but they face regularly. The privacy advocates are expressing compassion for the less fortunate. It's not a lucrative profession or anything high flying or glamorous.. they are pretty much doing work for the good of people. That's something to celebrate.. not the typical bro-founder who makes the next technologies that oh-by-the-way spills our data all lover the place. Robert Scoble Mary Hodder I was abused as a child (sexually) and it took me almost 40 years to talk about it (I know a few men who were abused and for us it's a double shame that most don't want to talk about). So totally grok that. But you aren't hearing what I'm saying. Over and over my life is improved by being "all in." By the way? My abuser? Was a coach that was already in my family (most abusers are already trusted by those close to you). Compassion for less fortunate? Really? I'd rather help people who are less fortunate get a job. Let's start by filling out your resume on LinkedIn, which is where recruiters look for people to hire. Or by giving those who are being abused a voice. For instance, the poor who work the fields across the street. That's why I'm all for immigration reform. And for telling people how to use Facebook and blogs and Twitter and all that to help get their point of view heard. But telling people to stay off the Internet? Seems that works TOTALLY against the people who you want to help by keeping them voiceless and without systems that could help them out. Mary Hodder Robert.. it's about choice.. and much of the data leakage and re-usage is done without notice or knowledgeable consent.. people should have the choice to be revealed, or to reveal themselves with autonomy.. it shouldn't be done for them.. and then when negative things happen in their lives that reference digital data, they have no idea why it's happened because they aren't even told that it happened (think the Linked In user, who doesn't realize recruiters then look them up elsewhere using their email address.. and find out personal things). It's fine to share data.. but only by choice. Lack of choice is lack of compassion. All of the men I know, except you (now), who have been sexually abused only want a few people to know. They are very uncomfortable with any kind of public disclosure.. they won't even discuss it in email or digitally. Because they know it will leak out. And that's their choice. Not the systems to make for them. No one is saying stay off the internet.. what the technologies discussed in the article are about is giving people control over when they share and when they don't. Robert Scoble Mary Hodder I'd rather teach everyone that there is a great advantage in just behaving as if you were gonna be studied and your stuff gonna be put on the front of the New York Times. Having "non privileged people" trying to figure out how to hide just isn't gonna work. Plus it's gonna frustrate the heck out of them AND will make their lives even worse. Mary Hodder Well.. how about fixing the privilege problem. Then I think you free people up to share all the things or data so that they won't be shamed or lose something for being who they are. But until we change that.. people do want to control data about themselves. The conversation went on .. but i didn't participate... and Robert didn't respond to my last post. On Jun 18, 2014, at 3:50 PM,
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