This is one of those situations in which we can be offended both by how
little they know and how much they know. Either way, even more offensive is
what the collectors do with
what they think they know. And either way there's great impetus to avoid
being tracked and to avoid having one's online experience sculpted by someone
else's purported knowledge
about us.
On 9/8/2013 12:54 AM, John S James wrote:
Almost no data on me, and what they have is garbage. I won't even
bother to correct it.
Completed high school (it missed Harvard); income under $15,000 per year; 1
credit-card purchase in last 24 months -- give me a break!
Does NSA use this?
John
On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Dave Gray
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I checked my profile. They know next to nothing about me
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On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 9:30 PM, T.Rob
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wrote:
Anybody checked their profile yet? Mine has some good data but is
largely incorrect. I helped my kids buy their current cars and these are the
vehicles
Acxiom believes I own. No mention of my wife's car or my truck or
sport bike. My credit card and purchase data are almost null which is a
hoot. This
suggests they rely on email addresses quite a bit and that my strategy
of using a different one for each vendor is working. I also use a service
that
generates unique credit card numbers for online purchases so they
cannot correlate that way either.
Two of three people responding to my Facebook post and two said they
didn't even have profiles in the system. The other one suspected it was just
a way to
harvest emails and scrub data. I'm curious to see what more "normal"
people say they find.
-- T.Rob
From: Dan Miller
[mailto: ]
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 23:45 PM
To: Omer Tene
Cc: Kevin Cox; Dave Gray; ProjectVRM list
Subject: Re: [projectvrm] Data broker offers a peek behind the curtain
Omer. I was thinking the same thing. Like a "kick me!" Sticker on our butts.
On Monday, September 2, 2013, Omer Tene wrote:
Also raises security problem. Without authenticated identities this is an
invitation to harvest other people's data. 4 digits of social + DOB = easy
hack.
From: Dan Miller
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Date: Monday, September 2, 2013 5:47 PM
To: Kevin Cox
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Cc: Dave Gray
< >,
ProjectVRM list
< >
Subject: Re: [projectvrm] Data broker offers a peek behind the curtain
My first thought is that it is great publicity for Acxiom and it is clearly
designed to head off direct criticism when they introduce new, more intrusive
services. The general tone of the editorial commentary is all too
predictable. People can update/correct their info - but they won't. People
could become
generally outraged at how much information is aggregated about them, but
they're not. Acxiom could do a better job of making sure the info is
accurate, but -
since they buy it from others - it isn't really Acxiom's responsibility.
The article doesn't even begin to talk about the mechanics and machinations a
person has to go through to correct info in his or her publicly available
files.
I've changed bad information, in TransUnion for instance, only to have the
accurate info that I provide overwritten when the next batch of crap is
bought from one
of the other info sources. And we all know that there really is no recourse.
Equating Do Not Track with doing some sort of hygiene on a rendition of your
PII (which I think is one of the threads in this piece) is a bit of a
contortion.
There's probably some Maslovian chart with a heirarchy of needs for privacy,
accuracy, currency... that this doesn't begin to address.
-Dan
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Kevin Cox
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wrote:
It is all a bit sad. All this effort and they only needed to ask him to get
the correct information - if it was in his interests to tell them.
Kevin
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Dave Gray
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wrote:
Curious what people think of this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/01/business/a-data-broker-offers-a-peek-behind-the-curtain.html
Dave
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