Re: [projectvrm] Why we need to escape the Land of the Silos

[Drummond Reed < >]

+1. I think it's this simple: if you don't have the option to self-host it, it's not really a personal cloud.

On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Doc Searls < " target="_blank"> > wrote:

The key is to make personal clouds that are truly personal — in the sense that nobody else can hack into them. If we want to put our clouds in services that are not ours, that's fine — and I am sure will be a good business. But the ability to self-host needs to be a prime requirement.

Doc

On May 18, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Drummond Reed < " target="_blank"> > wrote:

Dan, great stake in the ground. The issues you describe become magnified x10 when it comes to personal clouds, so as an industry we need to drive an even bigger stake in the ground on this topic -- one that will restrain governments all around the world, not just the U.S.

On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Dan Blum < " target="_blank"> > wrote:

I've sniffed a whiff of the same stench from here in the land of the free. Some time ago I heard about an Air Force RFP for software to create artificial "friends" for use on Facebook, probably for background investigation purposes. With friends like these...in the electronic age, we've lost much of the freedom we once had. 

Please see my blog entry The Constitution and the Cloud in which I explore these issues.

Thanks!

Dan

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 2:50 AM, Doc Searls < " target="_blank"> > wrote:

... especially the ones that allow news like this to happen:

<http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/saudi-surveillance/>