Text archives Help


Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?


Chronological Thread 
  • From: Kevin Cox < >
  • To: Drummond Reed < >
  • Cc: Hervé Le Jouan < >, ProjectVRM list < >, Katherine Warman Kern < >
  • Subject: Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?
  • Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 08:49:42 +1100

The personal cloud is the way to go because it enables a person to operate electronically in "the matrix".

One way to populate a personal cloud infrastructure is for organisations to give individuals electronic access to information about themselves.  Our particular approach, is to enlist vendors by using a white label approach.  This means the part of the personal cloud that a person uses to access organisation A is branded by and owned by organisation A.  They pay for it and they have a say in the use of the information.  In practice that means wanting to be able to veto the passing on of the information from the customer to others either manually or electronically.  

Organisations are quite rightly protective of their customers because without customers there is no business.  Organisations are, quite rightly, protective about some of the information in their dealings with customers.  

Kevin


On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Drummond Reed < " target="_blank"> > wrote:
+1. I have always emphasize how VRM and CRM fit together to create a win-win. The biggest missing piece has been, "But how can VRM actually work?" Without personal cloud infrastructure, that question is very hard to answer. It's like one hand clapping.

With personal cloud infrastructure, you add the second hand clapping, and suddenly VRM + CRM can become a reality.


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Hervé Le Jouan < " target="_blank"> > wrote:
CRM is a business terminology and will never be a consumer terminology. But that is also why VRM is a great name as in businesses minds, they can easily make the link, in a symmetric way, with their CRM, which they know very well.

If we bring good services to consumers, then at some point, they will get "VRM" as businesses get "CRM", but it will take some time.

So first: bring good services to consumers "VRM based" and keep pushing VRM for businesses as it resonates to them.

Hervé


On 21 mars 2013, at 14:17, Katherine Warman Kern < " target="_blank"> > wrote:


Vendors should track customers and let them know what they have to sell.  

What if Vendors don't want to track customers - they just want to do what they go well (e.g., make shoes).  What if they just want a medium that reaches receptive customers to tell them about their shoes.

Customers should track vendors and let them know what they want.  

What if customers don't want to track vendors or manage their own data.  What if they want to find a trusted  medium to tell them what's available when they want to buy, let's say shoes. 

VRM gives customers the tools to assist them carry out their side of the transaction.  VRM needs to work closely with Vendors.  They are partners in the same dance. They are not opponents in a boxing ring.

Back in the day, there was one medium serving both the vendor and the customer.  It was the shoe store. It is where shoe-receptive customers went ti see everything available. Conversations happened.  

VRM should be better than that for the same amount of effort and time by the vendor or customer. Neither have extra resources or time.  Neither think it is as interesting or fun to organize and analyze data as many of you do.  

They just want a better outcome than they have now for the same amount of effort and time they spend now.  

I understand that How to do this is the purpose of this conversation. But the how needs to focus on what the customers want.  You all often criticize Vendors for not being customer centric enough.

But VRM is a vendor too. To succeed you will need need to market your services to customers.  

K-


Intentcasting and tracking are applications of Information Processing Technology to assist vendors and customers make more effective, lower cost transactions.    

Vendors should track customers and let them know what they have to sell.  Customers should track vendors and let them know what they want.  VRM gives customers the tools to assist them carry out their side of the transaction.  VRM needs to work closely with Vendors.  They are partners in the same dance. They are not opponents in a boxing ring.

Kevin


Hervé Le Jouan
Founder & CEO Privowny, Inc.
Twitter : hervelj
skype : hlejouan


Own Your Privacy









Archive powered by MHonArc 2.6.19.