- From: Chris Savage <
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- To: Don Marti <
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- Cc: Joe Andrieu <
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- Subject: Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?
- Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:02:45 -0400
On 3/19/2013 1:28 AM, Don Marti wrote:
begin Joe Andrieu quotation of Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 08:54:44PM -0700:
But my real point was conditional: If it turned out to be true that
people can't succeed with intentcasting, then it is necessarily
true that vendors can't succeed with tracking.
>>Not necessarily. Tracking could be revealing information that the user would not
choose to share, whether because it's too much trouble or because of the user's privacy
concerns. And not all purchases are planned or mindful. Maybe most aren't.<<
Don,
The implication of what you are saying (which may be true, but I want to
be clear about it) is that vendors might, by tracking, be able to lead
me to buy stuff that actually meets my needs/makes me happy, to an
extent that, and in ways that, I would not myself be able to achieve by
being mindful of what I buy, when.
I have been working from the assumption that an individual making
mindful choices, empowered with adequate digital assistance regarding
what options are available from vendors, will be the "gold standard" of
actually getting that person what they want, given their budget
constraints on money, time, and mental bandwidth to make decisions.
Three possibilities suggest themselves:
(1) The "Gold Standard" exists, so that the very best that vendors could
do via tracking (in terms of meeting the person's needs/wants) is match
what the person would do for his/herself.
(2) In fact, vendors enabled with tracking data can do a better job of
meeting the individual's needs/wants than the individual would be able
to do for his/herself. Surrender to the Borg.
(3) Vendors can induce people to buy stuff via what they learn from
tracking -- maybe even more stuff than the people would buy in the "Gold
Standard" scenario -- and thus make extra money by tracking, even though
people are less happy as a result of being (in this case) manipulated
into buying crap they don't really need or want.
So... First, are there possibilities I'm missing, and, if so, what do
you think they are? And, second, which do you think is likely to be
closest to true?
Thanks,
Chris S.
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, (continued)
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Chris Savage, 03/15/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Chris Savage, 03/17/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Doc Searls, 03/17/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Chris Savage, 03/17/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Drummond Reed, 03/17/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Doc Searls, 03/17/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Joe Andrieu, 03/17/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Don Marti, 03/19/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Joe Andrieu, 03/19/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Katherine Warman Kern, 03/19/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Chris Savage, 03/19/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Kevin Cox, 03/19/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Joe Serrano, 03/19/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Katherine Warman Kern, 03/21/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Kevin Cox, 03/21/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Hervé Le Jouan, 03/21/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Drummond Reed, 03/21/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Kevin Cox, 03/21/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, John S James, 03/21/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Drummond Reed, 03/21/2013
- Re: [projectvrm] Is VRM an Ideologically-inspired Dead-end?, Don Marti, 03/19/2013
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