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Re: [projectvrm] A heads-up on a new report coming out from the P2P foundation


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  • From: Peter Herring < >
  • To: Doc Searls < >
  • Cc: ProjectVRM list < >, Janice Levenhagen-Seeley < >
  • Subject: Re: [projectvrm] A heads-up on a new report coming out from the P2P foundation
  • Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 13:52:24 -0700

Thanks, Doc

went to get the report. More reading for my "spare time" - Lol!

Some, hopefully, related thoughts:

In the next few weeks we (trovi) will begin making inroads into the Portland, OR community - talking with stakeholders - gov't, ngo, and just folks - about growing the first trovi beta here in partnership with the community, creating - hopefully - a win-win where the community helps crowdsource the signup activity that needs to happen to create a critical mass of users/vendors to turn the system on, and we work with the community on both how the system works and how they will utilize the revenue shareback that our concerted activities generates.  It's going to be interesting, I'm sure, since trovi facilitates the p2p world, the p2v (person to vendor, vrm) world and I suppose what I'll call - ad hoc - the p2c2p (person to community to person... it's more of a feedback cycle than a linear arrangement) world in a way that helps facilitate a different relationship between an individual or group and the larger community, since anyone may propose projects that utilize funds - and human energy - generated by the system, and then require a community consensus process.

It makes it very difficult to tell where trovi, as an "entity" ends, the community begins and vice versa. I suppose what will happen is that we'll create a whole other beast, like the biotic crusts of the SW deserts, where a number of species collaborate to form a new organism that functions well in that environment. I bring this up because I think it's one of the interesting aspects of creating new, collaborative structures: that we simply will not know what forms they will take as they evolve, nor will we - as instigators - control these entirely. In the case of trovi, committing ourselves to the community symbiosis model changes everything, from how we start up to how trovi grows into the various social ecosystems of the world. We cannot, for instance, treat the internet as a growth venue apart from the very human collaboration of the communities that use the internet - or else we simply treat the internet as a mechanical medium - like broadcast - that attempts to coerce culture (and create monoculture) as so many corporations now do. Perhaps we'll have to start calling it the "communinet". The most I can say is that I envision creating a a kind of fractal organism that organizes the dna for a (highly evolutionary) model for p2p/v/c commerce, information, activity and revenue sharing "virtuous circle" that does not push into other communities, but may be pulled in by those communities and replicated with local differences. 

For those of us who have created more "normal" companies in the past it's interesting to find ourselves working simultaneously along chaordic lines, and straddling the edge of a rapidly evolving economic order. At the very least it's not boring! 
~P

Peter Herring
trovi
480.528.9498

“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” 

– R. Buckminster Fuller


On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Doc Searls < " target="_blank"> > wrote:
Watch this space:

http://p2pfoundation.net/

Appearing there will be "Report: A Synthetic Overview of the Collaborative Economy. By Michel Bauwens, Nicolas Mendoza and Franco Iacomella, et al. Orange Labs and P2P Foundation, 2012."

A relevant section of an advance outline:

> Chapter Two: Discovering the User as Value Creator and the Emergence of a User-Centric Ecosystem
> I. The Evolution of Productive Publics
> Mass Amateurization and the Pro-Am Revolution
> II. The Emergence of Lead Users
> III. Opening Innovation to the Input of the Crowd
> A. Open Innovation
> B. Co-Creation
> C. Co-Design
> D. Mass customization as 'user creation lite'
> IV. The User-Generated Ecosystem
> A. The Emergence of Users-Generated Content
> B. Special forms of user generated content
> C. New Intermediaries for UGC
> D. From Content to Tools: New Distributed Infrastructures

Could be relevant to work here.

Doc




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Peter Herring
trovi
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