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RE: [projectvrm] All My Purchases App


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  • From: "Luk Vervenne" < >
  • To: "'Mark Lizar'" < >
  • Cc: "'Iain Henderson'" < >, "'Doc Searls'" < >, "'Brian Behlendorf'" < >, "'Rex Hammock'" < >, < >
  • Subject: RE: [projectvrm] All My Purchases App
  • Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 10:31:04 +0200
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Sure but the point is convincing the vendors/shops

The CRM mentioned, does this by giving insight in “identified” buying behaviour and providing ‘some’ convenience to consumers.

They get banned however from the real asset.

What has the VRM community solution to offer? A satisfying answer to that question would solve this.

Unless we have some smart answer (brand loyalty, conversational stuff) one has to wait for such unauthorised profile selling to become illegal.

 

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Van: Mark Lizar [mailto: ]
Verzonden: vrijdag 27 mei 2011 10:23
Aan:
CC: 'Iain Henderson'; 'Doc Searls'; 'Brian Behlendorf'; 'Rex Hammock';
Onderwerp: Re: [projectvrm] All My Purchases App

 

 

How about a community developed VRM app.. ? 

 

This I suggests is s a boot strap application for VRM.     I have been doing research on this, in Taipei they are now running a pilot where they estimate. 

" About 11.5 billion invoices are printed every year, according to statistics. If 8 billion paper receipts could be replaced by electronic invoices a year, 80,000 trees could be saved, Lee said.

In an attempt to conserve resources, the ministry has decided to push for comprehensive e-invoicing to make shopping more convenient and eco-friendly. The reform is estimated to reduce the invoice process cost by NT$7.4 billion (US$248 million) between this year and 2013. The reduction is forecast to reach as much as NT$120 billion once the whole country is using paperless invoices" (Taipeitimes)

In this regard the VRM at the point of transaction is an incredible focus for creating a flow of data that can provide a lot of customer independence.   E.g. Open Loyalty.  

 

I have some code we have been working on in this respect if anyone is interested. 

 

Best Regards,  

 

Mark

 

 

On 27 May 2011, at 08:47, Luk Vervenne wrote:



Simply turn around existing CRM solutions such as www.alletronic.com  into
an VRM one.
Alternatively, given consumers/VRM have the power, a redistribution of the
authorisations used by the above solution would suffice!
We're evolving into an authorisation economy.

Luk

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Van: Iain Henderson [ ">mailto: ]
Verzonden: vrijdag 27 mei 2011 9:15
Aan: Doc Searls
CC: Brian Behlendorf; Rex Hammock; ">
Onderwerp: Re: [projectvrm] All My Purchases App

Yes, and let's not forget the offline world. A colleague of mine covered
digitising receipts in her MSc thesis and came up with fascinating numbers,
like the miles of paper that supermarkets churn out each week that go
straight in the bin. Much of this is just a legacy way of doing things
crying out for a standardised fix.

Count me in for this project work if we get it going.

Iain

On 27 May 2011, at 00:58, Doc Searls < "> > wrote:


On May 26, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Brian Behlendorf wrote:

 

 

Why not a standard for emailed purchase receipts?

 

Great idea!

 

Could it be there's already one we don't know?

 

For no good reason, today I get email messages confirming purchases in

all sorts of different formats.  One could pretty easily imagine a standard
that preserved the ability to view the message in an HTML-ish mail client,
but which also embedded enough metadata (microformats-style, or as a small
attachment a la VCF) to allow a message to be fed to a client-side
application that did interesting things with the data - like helped me keep
track of purchasing habits, a personal-property inventory system for
insurance purposes, a warranty tracking system so that when X breaks I know
quickly what number to call and if it's still in service, etc.  It could
also thus feed a VRM system entirely client side, or on a personal cloud of
one's choice, in a manner much more semantically meaningful than free text
association.

 

Then, let a thousand All My Purchases apps bloom.

 

Brian

 

Yay! Let's do it.

 

Doc

 

 

 

 




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