Class 4/01 – Jurisdiction & Microsoft

 

Jurisdiction

What’s jurisdiction actually mean?  What are the real problems?

1.              Internet developed by engineers with characteristics it didn’t nec need to have.

a.  No geography – even if the domain name would suggest it was attached to a certain country

b. Portable Addresses 

2.              Net is no longer a “shared hallucination” – it has enough popularity to attract the attention of lawmakers, etc

3.              Johnson & Post argument – govt shouldn’t intrude in these governments which are governing themselves.

a.  Example of cyber anarchist & libertarians

b. J&P solutions deal only with problems that arise in the course of consensual activities between people interacting online.  It doesn’t deal with problems like gambling where the state asserts an interest in what parties do online

c.  You see all this mirrored in debate on Internet sales tax.  Way states have tried to solve jurisdiction issues is to say that where a consumer doesn’t owe a sales tax you owe a “use tax”

4.              if state wants to govern behavior that they have some pretext to govern (due to harm which comes into the state from the activity) 

 

What we mean when talk about jurisdiction:

1.              what are proper boundaries of a legal sovereigns reach ()?

a.  Procedural issues If look at early Internet syllabi dealt with a lot of these issues (e.g. Blue Note LA vs. Blue Note NY)

b. Substantive Limits – when’s it fair for a state to say this is the way the world should be because it’s hurting our citizens but other nearby states want the exact opposite.  (e.g. Yahoo case) 

                                                           i.      US has an expansive view of its jurisdiction. 

                                                       ii.      It can be really important when thinking about setting up a website & client asks who’s rules apply. 

                                                   iii.      “Rule:” never upset a G8 nation (violated in the Yahoo case)

2.              J&P were calling for a separate set of rules for cyberspace.

a.  Sort of have it in UDRP

b. If look at legal principles of UDRP – the standards are hollow – basically can petitioner advance some right & did the respondent register the name in bad faith. 

c.  Would J&P be happy? 

                                                           i.      Yes:  This is best example of sui generis scheme for determining rights. 

                                                       ii.      No:  they were really calling for anarchy – sets of rules consensually based

d. Conflict of laws vanish

e.  UDRP works so long as there are enough contracts in place

f.    UDRP works in part because the things at issue are cyber things – the harm & damages aren’t in the real world the way they are with harmful speech, etc.

 

Case Study 1:  I Crave TV

Facts:  US © law vs. Canadian © law. 

1.              It’s a substantive conflict of laws.

a.  Canada permits re-broadcasting cable signals but US law didn’t

b. US law – if you’re a cable company & want to retransmit you must get the permission first.  If cable people didn’t want to carry the signals they can make you do it

2.              I Crave was based in  PA but tried to place their receiver just over the border so Canadians could watch. 

3.              Court wanted to know what steps the company had taken to make sure that only Canadians could watch because if you couldn’t distinguish then its illegal.

4.              Jurisdiction is figuring out a substantive boundary & this was the court’s answer.  It might have been harder if everything ICrave was doing was in Canada. 

5.              Now it may not even be legal in Canada to rebroadcast without permission from a special panel

 

6.              What can ICrave do?

a.  Go to Sealand – will Sealand help?  Need to know

                                                           i.      Would Sealand allow it to be on their servers

                                                       ii.      Can you get the satellite transmission on Sealand?

                                                   iii.      Is it legal under Sealand laws?  you can’t use it

1.  as a base for attacking other systems

2.  for child porn

3.  for Spam

                                                    iv.      What if the NFL starts going after the individual viewers?

                                                        v.      Keep in mind its really expensive to get space at Sealand & documents are never really beyond the jurisdiction of the court

                                                    vi.      Now there are cases in court trying to establish the status of Sealand

                                                vii.      Sealand may not be doing that well given all its limitations

7.              Should result in Yahoo case be any different from ICrave TV?

a.  France is basically saying the same thing US said to ICrave – stop or you’ll pay.

b. Difference is that Yahoo is a CA company so went to the court to try & block France from collecting their judgment through CA courts

c.  Strange case because default rule allows for enforceability in different countries.

d. Dilemma:  if we impose our rule then the convoy will only move as fast as the slowest ship BUT we’re sovereign & we get to decide what happens to our citizens

Summary:

Practical problems of jurisdiction:  it gets dealt with in treatises – they usually agree that in the consumer realm it’s the destination that controls.

 

Substantive limits:  differing legal schemes.  2 ways to deal with it –

·      unify under a sui generis scheme (UDRP & Johnson & Post) but JZ doesn’t think this is the wave of the future. 

·      “start zoning or stop complaining” & location tracking is probably where its headed.

 

How can you assert the power once you have it?

·      If you have a reciprocity scheme you can start putting it into play

·      Can look to cyber remedies (UDRP)

 

We’ve focused on content providers but you can also look to ISPs (PA has now done this for child porn) & individuals.  Look to other pressure points for taming anarchy

 

 

Microsoft Intro

1.              Sherman Anti-Trust Act

a.  Section 1: price fixing is bad. 

b. Section 2: no monopolization of a trade.  Courts have interpreted this as …

                                                           i.      monopoly (a very large market share of a defined market) alone is not illegal

                                                       ii.      High market share coupled with not much access from competitors.

                                                   iii.      You’re under special scrutiny as a monopolist – you’re constrained in ways that non-monopolists aren’t.

1.  Predatory pricing

2.  Tying products

3.  Maintenance (bullying)

2.              Monopoly & MS

a.  MS has a monopoly on OS

b. They tried to prevent other OS from getting a grip on the market (DOS was tossed) to encourage people to make transition they placed both DOS & MS on the computers. 

c.  DRDOS was competing DOS but MS got them out.  MS would only sell computer manufacturers the same # of licenses as computers manufactured.  IBM couldn’t just get DOS for 20% of their machines.  This was the 1st case btwn DOJ & MS but was settled in a consent decree

d. Consent Decree à 1997/98 DOJ said MS had breached it & should be held in contempt à 1999/00 was new antitrust case

3.              Consent Decree

a.  MS cant force someone to take DOS if they didn’t want to. Section 4E of Decree

                                                           i.      4E had huge hole – don’t know if something is an integrated product which was allowed or a separate product. 

                                                       ii.      The Tuney Act said the Judge has to approve the consent decree but he wouldn’t.  DC Circuit ends up granting it

b. Consent Decree forgotten about until the contempt case saying MS had violated it with Internet Explorer.  Requiring a license of IE with Windows was a violation.  This was a huge problem for Netscape

c.  Need to consider if IE is integrated or a separate product à Jackson appointing a special master (Lessig) to figure out the case & an order that MS stop licensing IE with Windows

d. MS letter to Compaq, etc that they can still pre-install IE (and if you don’t then the computer will basically be useless).  Pisses off J. Jackson who holds MS in contempt of the contempt case & fines them $1MM/day.  Ct. Appeals reviews & tosses it all

4.              DOJ brings a new Sherman Act case independent of the original consent decree

 

TO BE CONTINUED….

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