Talk:The Google Book Search Settlement - Revision history

Gwen: /* General Discussion on the Internet and Publication */

2009-05-10T14:47:00Z

General Discussion on the Internet and Publication

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	*For Unix users, the instructions are [http://www.divvun.no/doc/tools/gobby.html#Linux here]		*For Unix users, the instructions are [http://www.divvun.no/doc/tools/gobby.html#Linux here]

	= ~~General~~ Discussion on the Internet and Publication =		= Discussion of Topic (Broadly, the Internet and Publication) =

	The internet has completely changed the meaning of publication, and the relationship between print and digital media is continually evolving. The advent of the personal computer and the internet have changed the way information is assembled, distributed, managed, and digested in ways at least as dramatic and consequential as the advent of the printing press. How are traditional publishers coping with these changes? What new forms of publishing are made possible by the internet, and what challenges do they entail? --[[User:Gwen\|Gwen]] 16:34, 1 December 2008 (EST)		The internet has completely changed the meaning of publication, and the relationship between print and digital media is continually evolving. The advent of the personal computer and the internet have changed the way information is assembled, distributed, managed, and digested in ways at least as dramatic and consequential as the advent of the printing press. How are traditional publishers coping with these changes? What new forms of publishing are made possible by the internet, and what challenges do they entail? --[[User:Gwen\|Gwen]] 16:34, 1 December 2008 (EST)

Gwen: /* Prior tech ideas */

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Prior tech ideas

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	* A [http://www.authorsguild.org/advocacy/articles/settlement-resources.attachment/joint-press/Joint%20Press%20Release.pdf statement] from some public university libraries in support of the project.		* A [http://www.authorsguild.org/advocacy/articles/settlement-resources.attachment/joint-press/Joint%20Press%20Release.pdf statement] from some public university libraries in support of the project.

	= ~~Prior tech ideas~~ =		= Discussion of Technology Use (Including Unused Ideas) =

	Our subject will revolve around the particular challenges that the settlement, as it stands, presents for libraries, as well as the missed opportunities for the reading public. Given the "brain trust" present in the members of this seminar, as well as the experience of the guests who will be joining us, we believe we could collectively draft a list of recommendations for incorporation into a final, court-approved settlement, similar in format to the Laboratorium post (in the list of potential readings), but focused on libraries (and the reading public). This may then be sent to the court (if this is feasible or there is some mechanism for public input in the settlement-approval process) or just nailed to the proverbial church door (blog, Berkman site, wherever).		Our subject will revolve around the particular challenges that the settlement, as it stands, presents for libraries, as well as the missed opportunities for the reading public. Given the "brain trust" present in the members of this seminar, as well as the experience of the guests who will be joining us, we believe we could collectively draft a list of recommendations for incorporation into a final, court-approved settlement, similar in format to the Laboratorium post (in the list of potential readings), but focused on libraries (and the reading public). This may then be sent to the court (if this is feasible or there is some mechanism for public input in the settlement-approval process) or just nailed to the proverbial church door (blog, Berkman site, wherever).
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	*For Mac users, follow the instructions [http://www.divvun.no/doc/tools/gobby.html#Mac+OS+X here]		*For Mac users, follow the instructions [http://www.divvun.no/doc/tools/gobby.html#Mac+OS+X here]
	*For Unix users, the instructions are [http://www.divvun.no/doc/tools/gobby.html#Linux here]		*For Unix users, the instructions are [http://www.divvun.no/doc/tools/gobby.html#Linux here]


	= General Discussion on the Internet and Publication =		= General Discussion on the Internet and Publication =

Lbaker at 00:27, 11 March 2009

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	* A [http://www.authorsguild.org/advocacy/articles/settlement-resources.attachment/joint-press/Joint%20Press%20Release.pdf statement] from some public university libraries in support of the project.		* A [http://www.authorsguild.org/advocacy/articles/settlement-resources.attachment/joint-press/Joint%20Press%20Release.pdf statement] from some public university libraries in support of the project.

			= Prior tech ideas =

			Our subject will revolve around the particular challenges that the settlement, as it stands, presents for libraries, as well as the missed opportunities for the reading public. Given the "brain trust" present in the members of this seminar, as well as the experience of the guests who will be joining us, we believe we could collectively draft a list of recommendations for incorporation into a final, court-approved settlement, similar in format to the Laboratorium post (in the list of potential readings), but focused on libraries (and the reading public). This may then be sent to the court (if this is feasible or there is some mechanism for public input in the settlement-approval process) or just nailed to the proverbial church door (blog, Berkman site, wherever).

			:: One potential worry is that it [http://www.opencontentalliance.org/2009/01/25/a-monopoly-dressed-in-a-class-action-suit/#comment-323 seems] that the settlement is not modifiable -- it has to be voted up or down. If it's voted down, a modified proposal could be submitted, but it might not be accepted by the parties.

			This list of recommendations will be seeded prior to the class with some of the proposals that are already floating around the internet, then projected, drafted, and edited dynamically throughout the session. There would be an opportunity for further editing of the list of recommendations after the class, for perhaps a week or two, and then deposited online and/or brought to the court's attention after a last round of "polishing" edits.

			:: As for technology for simultaneous document editing, check out gobby (google it). [[User:Mchua\|Mchua]] 22:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

			We will be using Gobby as a means of collaborating, as suggested by Mel (thanks Mel!).
			*For Windows users, download it [http://gobby.0x539.de/trac/wiki/Download here]
			*For Mac users, follow the instructions [http://www.divvun.no/doc/tools/gobby.html#Mac+OS+X here]
			*For Unix users, the instructions are [http://www.divvun.no/doc/tools/gobby.html#Linux here]

Gwen at 10:21, 10 March 2009

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 ** Other Commentators
 *** Lessig? (he is probably more useful for a different topic)
 * Amazon Kindle people
 * People from publishing companies doing offering innovative services, products, or editing processes involving the internet. (Does anybody know of such companies?)
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Gwen at 21:07, 9 March 2009

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	=Discussion of Guests=		=Discussion of Guests=

	=Invited Guests=		==Invited Guests==
	* Prue Adler (Associate Executive Director, ARL) -- nonresponsive		* Prue Adler (Associate Executive Director, ARL) -- nonresponsive
	* Professor Robert Darnton (Head of Harvard Libraries) -- unable to attend on Mar. 30		* Professor Robert Darnton (Head of Harvard Libraries) -- unable to attend on Mar. 30
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	* Corey Williams (Associate Director, Office of Government Relations, ALA) -- nonresponsive		* Corey Williams (Associate Director, Office of Government Relations, ALA) -- nonresponsive

	=Proposed Guests=		==Proposed Guests==
	* Google Book Search settlement		* Google Book Search settlement
	** Google - Alex MacGillivray (chief in-house counsel for IP)		** Google - Alex MacGillivray (chief in-house counsel for IP)

Gwen at 21:06, 9 March 2009

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			=Discussion of Guests=

			=Invited Guests=
			* Prue Adler (Associate Executive Director, ARL) -- nonresponsive
			* Professor Robert Darnton (Head of Harvard Libraries) -- unable to attend on Mar. 30
			* Jonathan Hulbert (member of Harvard's Office of General Counsel) -- unable to attend
			* Corey Williams (Associate Director, Office of Government Relations, ALA) -- nonresponsive

			=Proposed Guests=
			* Google Book Search settlement
			** Google - Alex MacGillivray (chief in-house counsel for IP)
			** Authors
			*** [http://www.bonizack.com/ Michael Boni or Joanne Zack] (primary negotiators of the settlement for authors (including the Authors' Guild))
			** Publishing groups - Jeffrey Cunard (Debevoise, Berkman, one of the primary negotiators of the settlement for publishers (including the AAP))
			** Libraries
			*** ALA - Corey Williams (Associate Director, Office of Government Relations)
			*** ARL - Prue Adler (Associate Executive Director)
			*** Harvard Libraries - Robert Darnton (director), John Palfrey, Jonathan Hulbert (lawyer in Harvard's Office of the General Counsel involved in the negotiations)
			** Other Commentators
			*** Lessig? (he is probably more useful for a different topic)

			* Amazon Kindle people
			* People from publishing companies doing offering innovative services, products, or editing processes involving the internet. (Does anybody know of such companies?)
			* Someone who has studied self publication on the internet (names?)
			* Someone who has studied reading habits in conjunction with the shift away from printed media (names?)

			:'''The Big Think team might be able help secure some of these folks -- hit me up at peter@bigthink.com if you'd like some assistance making contact. [[User:PeterH\|PeterH]] 07:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC)





	= General Discussion on the Internet and Publication =		= General Discussion on the Internet and Publication =

Gwen at 21:02, 9 March 2009

2009-03-09T21:02:08Z

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Gwen: Talk:The Internet and Publication moved to Talk:The Google Book Search Settlement: Changing name to reflect our narrowed topic

2009-02-03T19:12:15Z

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Gwen: New page: just tried to re-organize our guests section a bit to keep track of what invitations we've got floating around; please double check as i think i've lost track of some. should probably do ...

2009-01-18T21:48:20Z

New page: just tried to re-organize our guests section a bit to keep track of what invitations we've got floating around; please double check as i think i've lost track of some. should probably do ...

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just tried to re-organize our guests section a bit to keep track of what invitations we've got floating around; please double check as i think i've lost track of some. should probably do something similar with readings to solidify those as well. [[User:Gwen|Gwen]] 21:48, 18 January 2009 (UTC)