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		<title>Danray: New page: == Brainstorming (On earlier topic: OpenID) == === Title ===  OpenId and Internet Governance :: &#039;&#039;&#039;One of the other groups has a fun title (all together now for great justice dot org). Can...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: == Brainstorming (On earlier topic: OpenID) == === Title ===  OpenId and Internet Governance :: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;One of the other groups has a fun title (all together now for great justice dot org). Can...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;== Brainstorming (On earlier topic: OpenID) ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Title ===&lt;br /&gt;
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OpenId and Internet Governance&lt;br /&gt;
:: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;One of the other groups has a fun title (all together now for great justice dot org). Can we have one too? --Dan&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:: &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Once exams end. --Joshua&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Precis ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Internet Regulation (as it relates specifically to online safety and security)&lt;br /&gt;
* Privacy and anonymity as they relate to structures of control on the Internet&lt;br /&gt;
: JZ: I like the idea of a case study, because the topic is too big otherwise. Would not mind someone from openID or even 2 competing groups talk about what they offer, and identify a problem that gives one of them a headache. My guesses on headaches: &lt;br /&gt;
:: At what layer of the internet is appropriate for identity?&lt;br /&gt;
:: How do you achieve critical mass, do you need the help of government or the help of something that&amp;#039;s more than just the market?&lt;br /&gt;
: Groups to look at, potentially:&lt;br /&gt;
:: OpenID&lt;br /&gt;
:: Higgins project&lt;br /&gt;
:: Trustfuse (Auren Hoffman)&lt;br /&gt;
: And then see which group is most interesting and bring them in. The problem ID architecture is meant to solve - what is it? What are the new problems it creates? What are the barriers to implementing this solution?&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Guest wish list (if any) ===&lt;br /&gt;
* As an academic, you couldn&amp;#039;t do better than Daniel Solove. If we do hone in on a very specific topic, though, we could go for someone with more specialized experience. [[User:Danray|Dan Ray]] 22:39, 7 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
* Although government is subject to all sorts of special legal provisos that the private sector doesn&amp;#039;t have to manage, the privacy counsel at DHS, [http://www.dhs.gov/xabout/structure/bio_1166549785058.shtm Hugo Teufel], is pretty [http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/privacy/privacy_pia_einstein2.pdf on top of his game].  If we&amp;#039;re looking for practitioners, [http://www.arnoldporter.com/attorneys.cfm?action=view&amp;amp;id=380 Ron Lee] of Arnold &amp;amp; Porter does work with private industry.&lt;br /&gt;
* If we do OpenID, options for guests might include [http://www.crunchbase.com/person/bill-washburn Bill Washburn] of the OpenID Foundation and [http://blog.unto.net/ DeWitt Clinton] of Google.&lt;br /&gt;
* Also, since Passport has foundered, Facebook Connect looks like the hot new thing on the proprietary side.  Whoever runs that for Facebook would be a natural invite as well. (see Dan&amp;#039;s links below (?))&lt;br /&gt;
* And I still think the potential for the mobile phone to become the heretofore mythical convergence device and thus to become a necessary adjunct to personal identity is worth talking over.&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps a bloggingheads.tv-style video conference call between someone from an electronic privacy nonprofit and a representative from Microsoft or Facebook?&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;The Big Think team might be able help secure some of these folks -- hit me up at peter@bigthink.com if you&amp;#039;d like some assistance making contact.  we can also help with video teleconferencing etc. [[User:PeterH|PeterH]] 07:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Readings ===&lt;br /&gt;
[http://works.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1019&amp;amp;context=james_grimmelmann James Grimmelmann, Facebook and The Social Dyanmics of Privacy]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=998565 Solove, Daniel J. &amp;quot;&amp;#039;I&amp;#039;ve Got Nothing to Hide&amp;#039; and Other Misunderstandings of Privacy&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Links &amp;amp; Articles ===&lt;br /&gt;
http://vizedu.com/2008/12/lifestreaming-what-why-and-how/&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/125/how-to-fix-the-web.html&lt;br /&gt;
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http://developers.facebook.com/connect.php&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_connect_vs_open_id.php&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/facebook_connect_readies.php&lt;br /&gt;
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http://chrissaad.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/facebook-connect-aka-hailstorm-20/&lt;br /&gt;
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http://wiki.openid.net/Lobbying&lt;br /&gt;
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http://planet.openid.net/&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/11/30/facebook-google-myspace-data/&lt;br /&gt;
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http://blog.socialmedia.com/slowly-reprogramming-the-web-for-social-networks/&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/01/technology/internet/01facebook.html?_r=1&amp;amp;ref=technology&amp;amp;pagewanted=print&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XLfbos9cVocebook-connect-is-the-future-of-digg/&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&lt;br /&gt;
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http://gigaom.com/2008/11/30/social-webs-big-question-federate-or-aggregate/&lt;br /&gt;
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10110382-2.html&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.oecd.org/LongAbstract/0,3425,en_2649_34223_40204774_119684_1_1_1,00.html&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Concrete question(s) of the week ===&lt;br /&gt;
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What specific privacy expectations should be articulated to the groups who control the future of OpenID?&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Anything else material towards planning your topic ===&lt;br /&gt;
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* Facebook + google people?&lt;br /&gt;
* another way to look at it is as a matter of cybercrime and such - new surveillence methods (also relevant in regards to child pornography, for example). i wander if these are too different topics or not. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[User:Ayelet|Ayelet]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
* I&amp;#039;d like to see a segment on what &amp;quot;privacy&amp;quot; actually means in law and in culture. This would probably attach well to any other, more applied segment.  [[User:Danray|Dan Ray]] 16:38, 3 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
*Creating a series of Privacy Certification Marks&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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