| Nickname - Message |
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| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 10:54) Greetings, folks. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 10:55) The meeting will begin in about twenty-five minutes. |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:14) hello |
| <sakichan> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:14) hello |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:20) how |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:20) sorry, |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:20) how's the ben and becca team doing today? |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:27) We're fine, thanks. |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:28) good morning, ben |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:28) Morning y'all. |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:28) hi J |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:28) Hi Judith |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:32) when he says "review UDRP", are we expecting it to get better or worse? |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:34) there is always hope for improvement, no? |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:34) you'd think |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:34) but I'm thinking more likely they redefine "bad faith" to be more inclusive |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:35) like trying to profit, period, regardless of IP |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:35) ha. I'm still not certain expectations are allowed |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:37) or, redefining what is "protected" |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:37) typos protected already |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:39) Hello Darren. |
| <DarrenOtt> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:39) Greeting Lee and Fellow Internet Citizens |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:40) hello |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:40) Hello All |
| <DarrenOtt> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:41) Unfortunate that more people aren't here with us today. Sad really!! |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:41) Will Onliners be recognized today? |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:43) I'm sure a few more people will be showing up soon. |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:43) see...lol |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:44) Online comments will be taken in conjunction with the in-person comments. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:44) Tentatively, two in-person comments, then one online comment, so long as there are substantive and on-topic online comments. |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:45) increidible - hardley anyone is here |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:46) Thanks Ben - we felt ignored yesterday |
| <DavidYoung> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:51) Ben, will these slides be posted? |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:53) I appreciate Jun's focus on future v6 needs--can't wait to be able to close the barn door *before* the horse gets away. |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:59) howdy all |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:59) hi |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:59) dena, how goes it |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:59) hi joe! |
| <DarrenOtt> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:59) Greetings from Canada |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:59) Hey there Gene :) |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 11:59) you are better off watching remotely - this is ugly |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:00) hello Gene..... |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:00) cambler, sleep much last night? |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:00) hi ray - thanks fo r your comments |
| <DarrenOtt> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:00) Leah, I would appreciate if you could send me information on your organization. |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:00) Plenty. Not much more to do here except give my 3 minutes this afternoon |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:00) chris, where are you - in your room? |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:00) me too, 3 minutes is BS |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:01) Yes, watching this on TV. I'll come down in 30-45 minutes or so |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:01) i could get more sleep right now, actually |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:01) brb - java break. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:01) During one of yesterday's meeting, I believe it was Barbara Simons who said that if a review of the At Large election is to take place, then a review of how all directors are selected, should instead take place, and Andrew agreed. Does any have notes pertaining to this? |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:02) they are on the scribe notes from yesterday |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:02) also, they stated they will seat the new directors tomorrow |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:02) I thought so but can't find it ... ? |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:03) go to the Berkman site - i reviewed it this morning |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:03) yes, tomorrow at the end of the meeting, after all decisions are made. |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:03) They will seat them tomorrow, as there's a "special" meeting of the board after the main meeting ends. |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:03) yeah... BRB... |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:04) Ken seems a bit nervous this AM |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:05) must have had a hard time deciding which hat to wear this morning ...so many to choose from |
| <anon355> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:05) lol - cow man |
| <anon355> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:05) (lewco here) |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:06) hello lewco |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:06) :) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:06) is the audio working on backup #1 or is it just me that can't hear? |
| <NobuoSakiyama> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:07) RealVideo feed is working ( I'm participatring remotely in Japan) |
| <DarrenOtt> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:07) Lee - Does this guy really expect us to buy this stuff?? |
| <essebi> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:08) wich stuff man? |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:08) He would like for us to. |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:08) I'm getting good feed in Ontario, Richard. |
| <rjs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:08) from which feed? |
| <DarrenOtt> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:08) Funding from Verisign not influencing NC - Yea Right!! |
| <essebi> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:09) where exactly to get the feed ? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:09) asking if it was "unconditional" was very smooth |
| <rjs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:09) you can pick a feed on http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/realtime/broadcast.asp |
| <essebi> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:09) thanks rjs i am there now... |
| <essebi> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:10) first try : no good |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:10) try backup |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:10) secondary |
| <DarrenOtt> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:10) Any ideas what kind of $$ are actually involved in running this - I would think not much! |
| <essebi> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:10) if any :) |
| <essebi> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:10) thanks rjs.... trying it now |
| <DarrenOtt> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:10) Leah - Are you here?? |
| <rjs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:11) have to reboot again. Good old Real/MS garbage. Back in a bit. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:11) PowerPoint presentations for the PSO and ASO were just posted to the archive. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:11) link from agenda. |
| <essebi> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:12) thanks ben |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:13) GeneMarsh, second look thru scribe notes, I still can't find it -- you saw it there? |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:13) try http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/presentations/murai-RSSAC.htm |
| <DarrenOtt> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:14) Professional support - Give me a break!! |
| <essebi> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:16) remote partecipants:100 signups |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:18) if you reboot enouhg times apparantly it works. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:19) Richard, you might also try the windows media connection. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:19) In my personal experience, that MS software is considerably more stable than Real's offering. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:19) We look forward to offering both options in the future. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:19) which MS software Ben? |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:20) you can hear it in microslush instead of realbad audio |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:21) windows media architecture |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:21) http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmedia |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:22) yeah, i probably should go through the pain of the 9 meg downlaod to grab the new version. Ceertainly the old verison is extremely buggy, mush worse than real, bad as it is |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:23) every day, in every way, I'm getting better and better.... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:23) uh, i guess. sad ot think this is where I wanted to go today. hah |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:24) I would not miss this for anything. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:24) Good morning John. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:24) hey chris |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:25) there is no truth to the rumor that Verisign is buying IOD |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:25) open question? more like open sore. ten years and the fundamental design is till changing |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:26) there is no truth to the rumon VRx is buying verisign |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:27) Good day everyone |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:27) Richard - I've experienced this problem before with ben - you can bypass the cookie block he has on the RA servers by using an old version of real - if you can find one. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:27) I probably already have it. I'm VERY slow to upgrade and only do so if I HAVE to. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:28) # of people and various pets he means |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:29) hmm, guess the fraud detection is um, suboptimal |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:29) Meow |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:29) mine didn't work.... I did get a nice letter from the Florida Secretary of State... |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:30) pets make good voters |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:30) The ballot was confusing, and too many people voted for Kevin Mitnick |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:30) lol |
| <anon355> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:30) Chris - do you have any gut feelings about which way the Webs will go? |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:30) Yes. |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:30) yeah, me too. |
| <anon355> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:30) would you care to share them? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:30) I bought some idiots pin from eBay and voted for Pay Buchanen |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:31) Pat |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:31) hi richard |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:31) Yesterday Andrew agreed with Barbara Simons that what's appropriate is a sturdy of how all directors are elected. Does anyone have notes of those comments? (They're not in the scribes notes, that I can see.) |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:31) It wouldn't be appropriate, I think. |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:31) richard, we need to talk - soon. |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:31) very soon |
| <NobuoSakiyama> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:31) Now I'm preparing a comment about mobilization on At-Large election in the AP region. If you have interest, please see also: http://www.CivilSocietyInternetForum.org/election-report.html#appendix |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:31) I'm here Gene. It's not like I go anywhere. |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:31) hi K2 |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:31) Hi Chris, are you at the meeting? |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:31) I'm looking Judith, but not finding either. |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:31) Yes, I am, Marcia. |
| <KevinBaker> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:31) hello Gene |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:32) Very good, thanks. |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:32) Mr. Berryhill, hello |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:32) Hi gene, if you can't get Richard, then just call me and I'll tell you what he'd say |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:32) Will the study be by species? |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:33) kevin, anyone else watching? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:33) DATELINE LOS ANGELES: ICANN yesterday expanded until every living human (and a few only expected of being human) is part of an ICANN committee |
| <KevinBaker> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:33) yes, steve and matt are in and out |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:34) going offline to move locations. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:35) Theye never did do that ICANN cookbook. Plus, they should look at infomercials. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:35) ICANN keeps creating reasons for it to exist. What a racket. |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:35) sell flowers in airports |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:35) K2, get Donn to take a peek when he can |
| <KevinBaker> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:35) finally getting scribe's notes |
| <KevinBaker> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:36) ok |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:36) how about pencils, john? |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:36) [sally struthers] 'Please open your heart, an ICANN committee is waiting to hear from you' |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:36) Maybe there should be a "sponsor an IP address" campaign. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:36) http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,40176,00.html good article yesterday. |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:37) does esther dyson have a cold. She looks nasal |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:38) LA air can do that to you Joe. Every time I go there I get that. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:38) studies, reports, diversity, concensus, additional dollars! ICANN buzz words. |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:38) richard, had interesting conversation with roland meyer |
| <DarrenOtt> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:38) X Dollar, X Tasks and X Time Frame - That certainly clarifies things! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:38) she ate too much dead lobster last night |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:38) do you really expect clarity? |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:39) vint cerf also looks sick - bags under the eyes. |
| <DarrenOtt> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:39) How about a budget or something tangible? This is ridiculous! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:39) Ken takes the "looks sick |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:39) Ken takes the "looks sick" award for the day |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:39) Ken who? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:39) he can barely catch his breath |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:39) Stubby |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:40) Yesterday NC said they're GA members too, and so should represent the GA in voting for a GA chair. IPers will say they're at large members too, and so represent at large in its decisions. capture capture capture. |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:40) BEN, don't let Esther forget completely about the web submitted questions |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:41) so we are right back to individual and small business dn holders having no voice of their own |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:41) did michael get the buttons? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:41) unacceptable leah |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:41) the No BS buttons? yes |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:41) of courese, but par for ICANN |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:41) have we seen one yet? |
| <DarrenOtt> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:41) I agree with you Leah. |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:41) yes - they are everywhere |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:42) Gene, will you be distributing the buttons? |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:42) no |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:43) awwww |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:43) i like my job] |
| <KevinBaker> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:44) gene, kurt & K1 say hello |
| <NobuoSakiyama> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:44) (I cannot see the mark "have been read to the assembled group" in the public comments yet) |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:46) right on Karl |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:46) Karl works for a living |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:47) wooo hooo!! KARL! |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:47) YEAH KARL |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:47) Thank you Karl! |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:47) I feel I've been heard.... |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:47) Karl for president! |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:47) lol : )) |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:47) This guy is great!!! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:47) remote applause ~~~~~~~~~ |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:47) applesauce |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:48) that's why we voted for him! |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:48) happy to say i voted for him :) |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:48) clap clap clap clap clap |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:48) Online comments??? WOW |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:48) Dang, now we can't say no-one's paying attention... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:48) I was on the phone and I have ablack scribe screen... what did Karl say? |
| <JoeHowe> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:48) Now this is a meeting!! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:48) uh oh... |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:48) Karl said a mouthful... |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:48) everything salient, very shortly |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:48) REBECCA - refresh your comment list |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:49) roberto NICE CLOTHES!!! |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:49) looking better lol |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:49) What is wrong with so-called Common Cause? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:50) nohting, I was expecting them to drop a bombshell. I guess not yet. |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:50) nothing |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:50) K2 check your email |
| <KevinBaker> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:52) done |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:52) Antarctica is an international zone - |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:53) Ah. Penguins need domain names too. |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:53) penguin.org won the UDRP |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:53) oops |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:55) yeah, voting pressure was bad... I had to vote for Karl, or else Richard was going to publish certain photographs.... |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:55) That included all the votes from my penguins |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:55) Don't like clean sheete? Ewwwwww. |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:55) yeahm but do the domain names fall over with the penguins when the air force flies over? |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:55) Rebecca, what happened to my question? |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:55) Bac luck, Judith. ,-) |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:56) s/bac/bad |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:56) Karl rocks ok |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:56) he does, doesn't he |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:57) He ought to talk to Froomkin |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:57) he would have been more effective if he didn't keep waving that button wired to something under his army jacket |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:57) Karl is a good man. |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:57) get somebody to show one of the buttons on the video feed, gene |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:57) lol@john |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:58) bye |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:59) Is that Bob Dylan or is my sound really screwed up? |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 12:59) wb anon |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:00) how long is this break |
| <KevinBaker> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:00) both |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:00) it's hard to know the difference |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:00) its break time |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:00) how long |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:00) It's Bob Dylan with the sound really screwed up. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:00) Ben, my scribed notes have been stuck on K. Simmons for quite some time |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:00) til 10:35 |
| <anon355> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:00) thanks Denise dear |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:00) No, the sound is fine... it just sounds like Dylan |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:00) how come the commercials are always louder? This noise is way loud. |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:00) thanks Denise - just a few minutes to go. |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:01) who ever told him he could sing? |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:01) lol john |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:01) gene, show us one of the buttons, or get someone to |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:02) Mr Clean! |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:02) lewco: u missed karl auerbach, huh? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:03) there is too much confusion.... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:03) maybe she should sing along |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:04) sounds good |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:04) Businessman there, drink my wine, come and take my domain name |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:04) show us a board squat button |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:04) hahaha gary |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:04) Hey another ICANN funs raiser. "ICANN does Dylan". Call now, operators are standing by. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:04) welcome to ICANN kareoke night |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:04) actually, they owe a broadcast royalty for this use of the music... |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:04) they'd better |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:05) Ben, are you there? |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:06) The RIAA has a hotline for reporting copyright violations.... anybody need the link? ICANN is distributing copyrighted music for free vvia realplayer |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:06) Is everyone's scribed notes up to date? |
| <KevinBaker> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:07) no scribe update here |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:07) I don't have any scribed notes. Still not coming through. |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:07) Ben, you know this is illegal, right? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:07) I have video only, no sound, and mine have been stuck for quite awhile |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:07) robertzimmerman.com for sale, cheap! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:07) "and your sons and your daughters are beyonf your command, for the times they are a changing". Good choice of music. |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:07) The times they aren't a-changing that much |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:08) Maybe it's Bob's donation, John. |
| <NobuoSakiyama> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:08) (my http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/scribe-icann-111500.html is updated) |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:08) my scribes are fine |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:08) I doubt he owns the copyright in the recording being illegally played here |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:10) Welcome to ICANN Kareoke night. First up, Ken Stubbs will do Presley's "My way". After that, Dyson will perform "Leaving on a jet plane", followed by Auerbach doing the Beatles "Revolution". PLease enjoy 99 cent domains and all the bribes you can make. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:10) Bob once went after Apple for codenaming a work in progress 'dylan' |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:10) don't miss the tunes at www.louis-touton.com |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:11) ...Till Dylan Thomas came to him in a dream |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:11) lol cow! |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:11) Marcia, I'm here. |
| <anon355> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:11) brb - to come here? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:12) Hi Ben, my scribed notes weren't updated again. Apparently they're on break? |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:12) yes, on break |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:12) As I've said, I have video but no sound..so what are these ppl saying and why? |
| <GretchenSchoel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:13) hi. Nobuo Sakiyama -- you still there? I would like to ask you a little about your comment. how could I get in touch with you? |
| <NobuoSakiyama> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:13) Hi I'm here. |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:13) I've noticed the conversation here has gone downhill "BEN". People are not sticking to topical discussion - does that mean I can start discussing fruit cocktails? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:14) I don't know about you but I was listening to the Telecast through windows Media Player7 and it displays a Tiedyed pattern that moves to sound variations and voice patterns... it's like ICANN tripping out on LSD |
| <NobuoSakiyama> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:14) my e-mail address is sakichan@sakichan.org . |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:14) No, that's normal Asher - it really looks like that |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:15) ICANN looks like that or Media player looks like that? |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:15) you can even change that display to something else. |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:15) the media player silly |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:15) I tried chaning it and lost the telecast! |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:16) I know they are at lunbch now |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:16) Either that or you did some of that bad ICANN acid that's going around. Much worse than the brown acid at Woodstock or the black acid from the 72 Nixon campaign |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:16) This is it, folks... badbeat@riaa.org or 1-800-BADBEAT - they need to be provided with the URL of the webcast page, and they'll take it from there |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:16) Richard I don't Use any! |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:16) not at lunch, just a short break |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:16) Then hw do you know what it's like ? :-) |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:17) woops, that's badbeat@riaa.com |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:17) ahh man this music is hurting me... sounds like a garbled tape |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:17) They aren't out to lunch? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:17) perpetually |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:17) just let them know that some pirate organization is broadcasting Dylan via realplayer |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:18) lol |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:18) there is music being played in the background here in the auditorium. It's too noisy to tell if it's dylan or not, but that could be the source of the noise |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:18) Hey... be Glad it isn't Bay City Rollers! |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:18) "short break" almost over |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:19) or KC & Sunshine :) |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:19) Get the time of the next break, and if enough people let the RIAA know when the next broadcast is, then we can probably fix the music |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:19) or Village People! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:19) do they take requests? I'm surprised nbody showed up wioth Grateful Dead bootleg tapes. |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:19) ok, I'm glad |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:19) that would be good |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:19) and legal |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:19) I'd like to hear ICANN sing "I'm not that innocent" |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:20) Or "Girls just wanna have fun" |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:20) Should we all joing in now for a chorus of We Are The world? |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:20) all they know is the hokey-pokey |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:20) or, their answer to general consensus "Dream On" |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:21) knock knock knocking on roberts head.... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:21) everybody's first guitar song - can be played with 3 chords. C, D, F, C, C, d, F, C, D, F...knock knock knock |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:21) Hey that was an interesting point... the Chineese employees being Ordered to vote a certain way by their employers. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:21) Momma take this application offa me. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:21) Japanese |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:22) I juat cant afford it any more... |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:22) Knock Knock Knock on Heaven's door.... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:22) Seems like I'm knocking on ICANN's door |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:22) knock knock nocing on ICANN's door |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:22) all together now |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:22) just like a thousand times before |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:22) Momma put my servers in the ground |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:23) They're singing to Chris, "We will, we will BLOCK YOU" |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:24) Ok... Lunch break for me... Tossed Salad, with Rasberry Vinagrette Dressing... and a Spicy Shrimp salad Sandwich |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:24) sounds like $16k a minute...what a deal |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:24) ICANN'T eat a bite... too excited about next session |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:24) shoot I didn't give my presentation! |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:24) 3 whole minutes for david to take on goliath |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:25) good timing, my lighter was running out of fluid |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:25) Turning on speaker and running upstairs |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:25) lol gary |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:25) wooo hooo the good stuff! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:25) I'm essentially deaf...what's going on? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:26) yeah, me too, audio died |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:26) Can't read lips |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:26) just settling in right now... staffs report on TLD apps to be heard now |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:26) Talk about the Board asking presenters to stay until tomorrow for questioning |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:26) Why does she keep getting close-ups? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:26) Which presenters, Rob? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:27) First comes the staff infection |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:27) TLD presenters |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:27) very astute comment Gary |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:27) "is it safe? Is it safe... is it safe?" Pass the clove oil. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:27) Questioning? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:27) back |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:27) lol |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:27) Staff = micky, goofy, daffy |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:27) Just being tired & cynical sorry |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:28) larry moe curly |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:28) Louie louie.... whoa.... he gotta go... yah yeah... oh, sorry, break's over |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:28) manny moe and jack |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:28) i second gerys call! |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:28) ...then the bathing suit competition... |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:29) i wanna see a belly flop contest |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:29) Great. I'll have to slaughter a pig to get that image out of my mind. Thanks John. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:30) lol |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:30) chop-level domains |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:30) we have a dinger! and a gong!! woo hoo |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:30) .tv .nu .tm .fm .am are not generic? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:30) um, my audio/video is still dead. is this normal? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:31) and .td. It's topical. hanging.td now on auction for $1mil |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:31) the current process was referred by the icann board to the dnso...dates berlin |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:31) nc responded by forming working groups.... |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:31) those groups were B - famous names c-other issues |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:31) the groups worked for 8 months |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:32) and produced reports... there were recommendations |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:32) we then chucked all that and asked for money.... |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:32) lol |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:32) shoot- lost audio |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:32) yup |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:33) lost everything |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:33) no animals were harmed in the new TLD process |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:33) lost video |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:33) now we have the doggy audio track. what's up here |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:33) ditto |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:33) video died |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:33) yup and link is outdated |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:33) John, you made me laugh so hard I spilled my coffee. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:33) died under load perhaps. so much for the scalability issues. Maybe it's one of those "stability of the internet things |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:33) and then I lost my connection |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:34) probably dont want us to hear some things |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:34) that's what he was talking about when mine went |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:34) never attribute to malice etc. |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:34) arghhhhh |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:34) please insert $50,000 to continue |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:34) the real time mime is also out |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:34) i can't believe this |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:34) really, just the standard litany of what they' |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:34) ve laready done |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:34) lol |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:34) realtime scribe has not added anything for several minutes |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:34) So no more Dylan? |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:35) does anyone have video?? |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:35) no |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:35) yes, I do but no sound |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:35) no |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:35) i have video |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:35) no |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:35) last note was that louis was delivering his report |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:35) and audio |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:35) uh oh, Ben gave up? |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:35) both are working here at 26,4 ... he's singing tambourine man |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:35) I have video - no one is seated (eh, sitting yet) |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:35) Ben was having hotel switchboard trouble yesterday. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:36) anyone in? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:36) i still can't get anything |
| <KevinBaker> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:36) not yet |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:36) You know that a new problem hotels hadn't considering when wiring their telephone services? |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:36) audio from javascript:showDualWindow(4); |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:36) uh oh, now I've lost both |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:36) i cant either cow |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:37) nah, ben just decided that the report didn't need to be scribed |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:37) available online |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:37) oops that would be the 3 (audio only) link from the Real-Time Remote Viewing and Participation area |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:37) "requested file not found" |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:38) getting audio from there now but it's choppy. 1 secodn of sound, 15 of silence. Oh well I guess you can't make an omlette without killing all the chickens. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:38) there's only 175 online viewers now? less than yesterday? incredible.. |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:38) i get the same thing richard |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:38) uhm- i man rob |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:38) requested file not found |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:38) i'm getting audio now |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:38) from the audio only link |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:39) like a blip in The Matrix |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:39) which did u use cow? |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:39) I think my call to the RIAA worked |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:39) thx cow |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:39) should all be back soon |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:39) whyzzat gene? |
| <NobuoSakiyama> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:39) secondary video feed works |
| <KevinBaker> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:39) audio only here |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:39) Stubbs tripped over the plug |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:39) my vids frozen |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:40) it's getting better, I'm up to a 20% duty cycle now. I heard "evaluatiom" and "careful". |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:40) Richard, you must be joking |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:40) my audio froze |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:40) someone trip over the cord? |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:41) technical support by NSI |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:41) I can't get back in at all. It keeps telling me the link is outdated |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:41) no, someone accorded the trip to Afilias |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:41) and they don't need to watch |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:41) good call bob |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:42) I wasn't spending all that time eating... someone just Regged 5 Domain names and insisted on paying with Paypal so I had to enter 'em mannually |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:42) Ben, is the realserver overloaded? It seems to not be working for quite a few folks |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:43) thanks for that asher ...what it has to do with us, I have no idea |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:43) something has slowed down the network here at the meeting |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:43) not woking for me. |
| <GretchenSchoel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:43) Mine too - audio and video shut down. |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:43) working |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:43) jdrp legal team searched their conflict services...there wasn't any |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:43) affecting everything, not just the realnetworks connection |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:43) wb Ambler |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:43) down here |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:43) I am not sure whether you received my previous comment regarding temporary loss of net. If you are having trouble with video, please use the audio feeds. The video should be ok now. Also the presentation being given is available linked from the agenda. |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:43) still unable to view or hear |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:44) I'm listeing to the audio only feed and am getting half a secnd of sound then 20 seconds of silence |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:44) Net loss was noticed here in MDR... is it working ok now? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:44) Chris, do you know Karen Kaplan? |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:44) The net is o.k. now. |
| <Jeffreyskimming> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:44) They're sounding vey scared to me. Already defending their objectivity. |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:44) I can't get it at all...will try a different connection. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:44) objectivity my ass |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:45) No, Marcia, the name doesn't ring a bell offhand. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:45) whats MDR chris? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:45) Oh - works now |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:45) Marina Del Rey, Richard |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:45) hello all - hi Chris |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:45) ah |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:45) whose this guy? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:45) it just came back Dena |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:46) She is present at the meeting. I've sent her background info. She's a reporter for the LA Times. I'm asking you to please speak with her on behalf of those of us that have voiced our opinions regarding your registry. Thank you. |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:46) some legal guy i think |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:46) Louis Touton |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:46) Therefore clearly the problem was YOU Dena :-) |
| <Jeffreyskimming> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:46) Chris, reassure me that you have one or more attorneys with you. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:46) Judith hi - "foolstop" here |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:46) Folks, just wanted to make sure everyone knows this presentation is available online (as of quite a while ago, Becca tells me): |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:46) http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/agenda-pf-111500.html |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:47) I don't know how mentioning how many of our legal staff are here would re-assure you... |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:47) Chris, she wrote the LA Times article about the meeting on Mon, and is writing another for Friday's edition. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:47) thanks ben |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:47) thank you Ben |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:47) okay, what'd I miss? |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:47) the video audio sounds better too. |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:47) K2, you listening? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:47) nothing |
| <NobuoSakiyama> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:48) Oh, link is added: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/presentations/touton-tlds.html |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:48) he's still reviewing the process and conflict-checking, rich |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:48) the longest intro to the tld app reviewal process possible |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:48) I am emailing her again and letting her know you are there also. |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:48) 9 criteria, etc. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:48) Are there no scribe note? |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:48) it' |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:48) just lost audio - again and no scribe notes |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:48) @#$#@$ |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:48) 47 applications... marooned on an island... which one will survive? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:48) and we threw out the entire idea of competition |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:48) nothing to note may be? |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:49) it's their opportunity to bore us to death |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:49) yes http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/scribe-icann-111500.html |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:49) i havn't ha dany scribes notes todat |
| <anon411> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:49) I have no sound...how is it going? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:49) Live scribe notes. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:49) "Fraud categories" huh? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:49) Shold we recruit the Vote Counters from Florida for the ICANN vote on TLDs? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:49) not live |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:49) this is frustrating to say the least |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:49) Touton sez: you get 3 minutes, I can be redundant forever |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) leah - can you get vid feed? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) yes |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) lol gary |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) with audio? |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) ok I've got A/V |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) routing of domain names to IP addresses? Oh God... |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) Can you all see the "General Applicants" slide that's up? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) audio just quit a couple of minutes ago with a loud crash |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) lol |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) not really |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) no |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) no |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) No, did they take you off of it to save time? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) hi mmmcow - "foolstop" here |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) hi |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) sortof, Chris, but blurred |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:50) Neustar's .web application: "Passed threshhold review; subsequent events have raised concerns" |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:51) yeah! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:51) goodie |
| <Jeffreyskimming> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:51) where do the country codes fit? |
| <anon411> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:51) how did iodesign fair? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:51) I thought .biz was for Belize. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:51) lol@richard |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:51) is it the presentation on http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/presentations/touton-tlds.html ? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:51) Guess I'm just a confused consumer. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:51) :) |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:51) got audio back |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:51) I just checked the video and audio feeds and both are working. There is no scribing during the presentations. The presentation slides are available linked off of the agenda. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:51) .web is for warner brothers then, no? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:52) No, it's for ducks. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:52) its for Stubbs (sorry chris) |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:52) talk about a set up |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:52) rich, i need to run out.... you know what i want to know about... i'll check back in a bit over an hour |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:52) ICANN isn't what it's quacked up to be |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:52) Thanks Becca |
| <anon411> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:52) I can't hear... how is .web doing? going to netsol? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:52) Groan. That was fowl. |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:52) Is the video and sound working yet? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:52) Hey foolstop - marcialynn from afternic! |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:52) looks that way anon - afilias |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:53) this is a big set up to justify their choice of afilias |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:53) he marcia - you look wierd with yr real name! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:53) ya think? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:53) ..... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:53) follow the bouncing CORE cabal |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:53) "check mark in red, and i should explain that" - erm... no! |
| <KevinBaker> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:53) vid back |
| <anon411> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:53) xcuse my ignorance...do they decide on the domains today?? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:54) no anon - they decided some weeks back |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:54) no, tomorrow |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:54) no |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:54) the schedule is posted at www.dnso.com/when |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:54) just for info -- the slide is now |
| <anon411> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:54) wow...okay..so they decided a few weeks back,,,and they anounce it tommorrow? |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:54) number 15 at http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/presentations/touton-tlds.html |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:54) .web afilias. .biz jvteam .nom core... any bets against? |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:54) oops, make that number 13 |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:55) oh, it was a $50,000.00 mistake then? |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:55) slide 13 i think is what their on. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:55) bye Ken |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:55) cu later guys - K2, stay tuned... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:55) cu |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:55) which one has serious concerns? |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:55) neustar |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:55) neustar |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:55) Neustar |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:56) Noose tar |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:56) Now is where it happens. |
| <anon411> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:56) so neustar's outa da picture.. |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:56) was that Neustar? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:56) :) |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:56) Is the video working or just the sound? |
| <anon411> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:57) so...they announce who gets the names tommorrow? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:57) YES |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:57) That's not correct. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:57) I think everbody that chimes the mantra "internet stability" should be asked to explain what it means |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:57) yeah! |
| <anon416> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:58) Was that really ken stubbs? |
| <anon411> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:58) Christopher Ambler...could you explain pls/ |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:58) yes |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:58) He didn't mention our $1m investment already. He didn't mention that we don't have ANY operating loss. |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:58) is anyone getting webcast? audio? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:58) yes av |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:58) yes denise |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:58) i am denise |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:58) he's probably back on as an anon |
| <KevinBaker> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:59) i am getting video/audio |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:59) chris - was it mentioned in yr application? |
| <anon411> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:59) ChristopherAmbler...who are you with? |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:59) I'm trying, it's choppy |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:59) Yes, it was mentioned in the application. |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:59) who is this guy? |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:59) obviously he isnt one of your guys chris right, |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:59) which guy? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:59) yeah, who are yo uwith chris? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:59) lol |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:59) Alternic? |
| <anon416> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:59) richard - doesnt everyone know who Chris is? |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 13:59) k- i have audio only now. whos talking right now? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:00) $5.75? Sheesh |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:00) Note that those lower figures represent years of operational losses. That concerns me, personally. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:00) This is technical coordination? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:00) wry :) judith |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:01) with no operational experience. Doesn't it bother anybody they're all guessing? |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:01) They're going to use the $450,000 figure now to scale our price into a completely incorrect profit number. |
| <Jeffreyskimming> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:01) I agree Chris, it seems to be the biggest risk to overall stability |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:01) Chris, did you correct them in writing beyond posting on the website? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:01) why are they leaving IOD out of this part of it? |
| <NobuoSakiyama> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:02) Slide 17 |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:02) you know, one way to reduce such called cybersquatters would be to raise the registry fee a little...oh, and allow a profit to take place too |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:02) Yes, but all applicants were informed that the public comment board was the appropriate place to post them. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:02) this is .biz mmmcow |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:02) ahhh, thx Andrew |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:02) thought it was all generic |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:02) ah |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:02) No, MmmCow, you were right. It's all of the generic unrestricteds. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:03) bye ken |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:03) oh |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:03) ok, thx |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:03) can't see slides |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:03) is video back up |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:03) Did Cerf just get Dyson-dissed? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:03) yes |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:03) Yes kevin |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:03) k switching from audio to video |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:04) phew- i have the webcast again |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:04) Now we REALLY get it here. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:04) how can you remain so philosophical chris? |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:05) As opposed to what, Andrew? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:05) http://sunrise.open-rsc.org/ |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:05) as opposed to furious, frustrated....! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:05) he tried that |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:05) What would that accomplish? There are errors, we've corrected them, and there's not much more we can do. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:06) why are they explaining DNS 101? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:06) to fill up the allotted time |
| <NobuoSakiyama> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:06) Slide 19(I'll quit and go to bed because my role (to send a comment about election) was finished and because it is about 4:20 am here. My address is sakichan@sakichan.org . bye). |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:06) fat model = there are no registrars |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:06) Richard: cause they're reinventing themselves as "the source"? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:06) but we have to pretend they still exist |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:07) and of course it's how 251 od the 253 tld registres work today |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:07) when is the telecast tommorrow? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:07) chris - icann are about to totally frustrate all of us who supported IOD... who the hell supported afilias? so much for representation... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:07) everybody who lost money supporting CORE, that's who |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:08) RP crashed my system again - just like yesterday |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:08) WHAT? We're a thick registry. |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:08) Chris,who are you with? IOD? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:08) didn't you say you were initially? |
| <dimitry> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:08) I met the woman who made the application and the comparison standard. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:08) uh, there IS no protocol. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:08) sheesh |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:08) well well well... this one they didn't fudge! Amazing. |
| <dimitry> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:09) They are making this up as they go along. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:09) are you listed as Thick or thin, Chris? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:09) on the slide |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:09) We're listed as thin, but there's no question that we're thick. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:09) as oposed to non-high-reliability internet applicatuions? Like what for example? |
| <Jeffreyskimming> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:09) If it doen't matter whether you're thick or thin, why bother making it a criteria? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:09) Someone please summarize what's been said - i have no scribe note or audio |
| <dimitry> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:09) Evaluating uptime requires following the path of one packet, then the paths of many...they didn't have the time for this. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:09) thin |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:10) Jeffrey I know Several women that would disagree with that comment! |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:10) someone said they'e about to trash IOD. true? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:10) nothing has been said really. They're just reasding the staff reoprt on the aplications from the icann website |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:10) geee, and who's on top? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:10) ty richard |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:10) ty? |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:10) i noticed that too cow... |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:10) thank you |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:10) as well as whos on bottom ( i think) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:10) ah :-) |
| <dimitry> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:10) Neustar has the most favored application on every front...tied more or less with Image Online. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:11) marcia - most is at http://www.icann.org/tlds/report/ |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:11) if they're reading the report verbatim, I know it - thanks andrew ;) |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:11) nah...that won't happen |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:11) i wonder how they are going to deal with all of your current clients chris just toss them out the door? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:11) if this guy had any experience he'd know you DON'T want lots of updates. With every update there is a chance for error. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:12) hehe.... no, they're running through the criteria and assigning a value or comment to each applicant for each criterion |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:12) That would be outside the scope of "technical coordination", Kevin |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:12) what, us crowd? |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:12) Note no "more or less desirable" on this slide. Interesting. |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:13) first come first, that's pretty out there, Chris |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:13) snorefest. if anybody is interested there is a beaver waddling through my north field |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:13) Kevin, the principles at stake here are more important than IOD's registrants. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:14) ok, any deviation from Nov 9 report there? anyone notice? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:14) no |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:14) who are they talking about?? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:14) Andrew, you are foolstop? |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:15) Well, that's it. We've identified 3 errors and 1 disagreement. I get 3 minutes later on to comment on them. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:15) yes marcia |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:15) hello again - marcialynn from afternic |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:15) I just heard a rumor that Ken Stubbs is running naked thru the hallways right now.....anyone there that can verify? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:15) not my hallway.... tg |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:16) what slide number at we looking at? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:16) he's still wearing lots of haits |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:16) 27 |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:16) So, does anyone have a rational argument that could support the claim that price at the wholesale registry level is technical coordination? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:16) gracias |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:16) chris - agree |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:17) You agree that it is technical coordination? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:17) ICANN setting registry pricing is not within their realm of appointed duties. |
| <ChristopherAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:17) Okay, I have to run now for a meeting. Thanks, everyone. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:17) no of course it isnt - neither frankly is number of employees, investors etc... |
| <Jeffreyskimming> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:17) Chris these guys sound like they've been advised to suppress their criticism of IOD. I'd say things are looking good. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:17) not looking good... they just need to cut themselves some slack |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:17) Thanks Chris |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:18) slid 30 now? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:19) are the slides on icann's site? |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:19) http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/presentations/touton-tlds.html |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:19) slide 30 |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:19) Bob - 31 |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:19) thx |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:19) 32 |
| <anon416> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:20) I only hope that Auerbach being there looking over their shoulder will make them make the correct decisions |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:21) that would be the day |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:21) have they done .web yet?? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:21) babygoats.kids |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:22) lol |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:22) be on the air? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:22) how about have bandwidth available! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:22) what slide are they on? |
| <DavidYoung> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:23) 34 |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:23) ty david |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:23) I tuned in halfway thru...have they done .web yet?? |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:23) I know some very old kids |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:24) has anybody ever heardof anybody that actually wants a .kids name? |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:24) have not seen .web yet |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:24) I mean I have kids, and they're on the net, but nobody knows they're kids |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:24) oops, we have seen it.... sorry |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:24) by identinfying them as kids... i dunno about that |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:24) the potential registry community is not the marketplace! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:25) That's not something ICANN should decide anyway |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:25) it's the market, not technical |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:25) true |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:25) Are they worried about being sued by the 'real' .kids operator-wannabees, or by Mike Palage? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:25) I agree Leah |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:26) The only choice they should be making is the decision about who get's what TLD if there are multiple apps |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:26) then check to see if they would duplicate other roots... |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:27) Then they'd all have to go out and get real jobs. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:27) that means IOD and Diebold get theirs. None get .biz, etc. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:28) not likely, Judith |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:28) They are simply going to invite trouble |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:28) It just occured to me, this decision is entirely based on which selections are least likely to invite deep-pocket litigation. |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:28) hello |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:28) It JUST occurred to you? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:28) deep-pocket being the key term |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:28) ok ok, so shootme |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:29) no |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:29) bang! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:29) (yes,deep-pocket being the key term) |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:29) I forgive you Judith |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:29) oops, we have seen it.... sorry? |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:30) slide no. ? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:30) I did assume a decision based on who ICANN is taking its marching orders from, but not the litigation angle. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:30) "large number of negative public comments" - rofl |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:30) in both cases it's the lawyers, some overlap, no? |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:30) how did IOD do? will they get a slice of .web? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:31) how come they get to reform their structure, but IOD can't??? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:31) will pigs fly anon? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:31) ah yes, the traavel agent constituency. Holy. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:31) Judith, bring that out, huh? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:31) big time |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:31) They have apparently accepted changes from some and not others? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:32) anon426: nothing is known of how IOD's .web will fare |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:32) brb phone call |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:32) will pigs fly - another lewis carol fan - cheers |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:32) richard http://www.icann.org/tlds/report/ is known |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:32) thx richard |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:33) i was commenting on recen events |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:33) amazing how the other 251 tlds started with no money... |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:33) they're quite convincing at times, true... |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:33) who is the chunky guy talking with the golden tie? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:34) So registrypro can do that but IOD can't |
| <dimitry> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:34) He behaves like an Arthur Android consultant. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:34) dunno, but he just said he was affiliated with one of these groups. conflict? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:34) arthur anderson did collect money for CORE. Maybe he's an AA guy |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:35) registrypro's probably getting a slice of .web then? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:35) i wasn't aware there were slices of .web |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:35) Leah, they accepted "Notice of Material Change" - but not "Notice of Material ICANNA Error", as far as I know. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:35) registrypro is .per |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:36) oh....are they just giving it to one registry? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:36) strike that |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:36) unknown what they are doing |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:37) there can only be one registry for a tld anyway. simple law of physiscs. |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:37) If they are smart they'll give it to IOD. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:37) are they gonna do anything besides read the staf report? |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:38) Folks, wanted to let you know that we're working hard on posting the powerpoint and HTML presentations of the TLD applicants. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:38) Not everyone has gotten us their files according to the schedule we gave them yesterday. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:38) registry pro is erm.... .pro |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:38) And some files didn't match the spec (too big, etc.) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:38) for prostitutes? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:39) thx Ben |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:39) slide 39 |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:39) But almost all of those that were OK have been posted at ... |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:39) lol |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:39) (.pro) |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:39) http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/tldpres |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:39) about five presentations there are messed up, one way or another, and we're working on them now. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:40) maybe if people were told to reqad this first we could avoind this boring reciatal of the staff report and gut on to live discussion/comments. This is a massive waste of time |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:40) when do we find out for sure who gets what? tommorrow? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:40) i'm not sure this is known |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:40) hi simon! |
| <anon426> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:40) ah |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:40) hey Simon :) |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:40) hi guys! |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:41) what have I missed? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:41) nothing. they're reading the staph report on tlds |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:41) say moe |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:41) ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:42) Maybe they get payed by the hour. |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:42) pulver application is excellent |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:42) affinity sound like fascists |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:42) slide 46 is more interesting |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:42) why would anyone want to make 111.111.111.1 = 111.111.one? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:43) Pulver application has disturbing tm ramifications. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:43) worse, why would anybody want to pay for it |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:43) gi gene |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:43) hi |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:43) hey richard |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:43) Kristy, its the ENUM format from the IETF that is will be standard protocol for certain apps. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:44) 'that is will be" - multitasking at its best ... |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:44) :) |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:44) who is this guy? |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:44) Gene are you making a presentation on behalf of diebold? |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:45) Ii missed his name |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:45) i think he's one of the techno guys that critiqued the apps (name is on website) |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:45) "Select a few" - intriguing (slide 46) |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:46) city.state.country - that'll never fly |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:47) yeah - .us |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:47) :) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:47) true. if it had any merit people would already be using it. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:47) what slide are they on? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:48) 41 |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:48) ty kristy |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:48) where are you viewing the slides, Marcia? |
| <Alexander> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:48) http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/presentations/touton-tlds.html |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:49) thx |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:49) slide 44 |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:49) .geo buttons? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:49) unknown |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:49) hey, doesn't geo infringe a car trademark? |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:49) .geo pets |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:50) http://I-hate-my.geo? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:50) not in repect of anything except autos |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:50) wait'll udrp gets ahold of it |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:50) who'd buy one of those things? (.geo names) |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:50) except online Andrew, where the standard is simply duplication of character string. ;-) |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:50) .geo is the only proposal they recommend on slide 46 |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:51) topogi.geo |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:51) goodnight eddie |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:51) that's 80m down the plughole... |
| <Alexander> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:52) i don't think it's about buying .geo names; it's supposed to be an 'invisible' tld. you use 3d browser and other 'significantly advanced technology' :) |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:52) that's true |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:52) dunno if that'll fly. If it doesn't work through the browser people may not use it |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:52) so its 80m down the plughole.... or patient investors |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:52) icann.missioncreep |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:53) oh man this guy is a tease! |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:53) suspense! |
| <GeneMarsh> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:53) no, he's a lawyer |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:54) gimme a button |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:54) the ITU kills things again. lovely |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:55) ITU has veto power |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:55) how the hell can a committment be in time or too late. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:57) she should just ask the question-- how much more money per month will they pay me? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:58) Richard, I missed it - what didi they say about the ITU? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 14:58) they rejected all the teleophony tld apps because the ITU wrote a letetr |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:00) he's pushing "thick"... why? |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:00) (Judith: implication of "prematurity" in the applications from ITU perspective) |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:00) ITU made its deal with the IETF's ENUM, co-chaired by a NeuStar guy who's competing with the .tel people; also has Verisign as a member, also directly competing with the .tel app. |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:00) don't knock letter writing |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:00) BS, Rob. |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:01) it's the first step in playing chicken against a lawsuit |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:01) forgot a question mark |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:01) it's a lost art, Simon |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:01) This suit brought to you by JDRP |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:02) who's talking? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:02) one of the jdrp lawyers |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:02) nice suit |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:02) fyi: http://www.wahmpreneur.com/newtlds.html |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:02) interesting article |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:03) "avoid inappropriate" Touton-talk for preemptive tm entitlement |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:03) nice article simon |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:04) uh, good going vint, but they are mutually exclusive |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:04) damn, I heard applause - what'd I miss? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:05) this is your baby vint, if you makes you uncomfortable who do you have to blame? |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:05) this is funny now |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:05) vint said this feels like a venture capital scrutiny and he felt that's inappropriate for icann |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:05) they are getting smart and want no responsibility |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:05) he just wake up from a coma? |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:06) lol judith |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:06) no, it's an escape clause for when the lawsuits hit |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:06) judith, no he realized those deep pockets were suctions |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:06) rofl |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:06) they've pretty much spent all the TLD application income |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:06) WHAT? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:07) who's the guy with the headphones? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:07) on WHAT? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:07) vinton cerf headphone guy |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:07) thx |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:07) who is he? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:07) gawd, Esther's covering her behind too |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:07) vint is near deaf |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:07) the budget for this meeting was allocated in 10ths of a TLD application ($5000) |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:07) ic... but who is he? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:08) Cerf, one of fathers of net, on board, presumed replacement for Esther |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:08) ok... thx |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:08) vint had a small hand in the invention of tcp/ip althogh bob kahn di dmost of the work, but vint, um, seems to garner the credit |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:08) he is a brilliant self promoter |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:08) agreed |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:08) He is a big wig with World Comm as well |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:08) figurehead |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:09) he looks good on paper |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:09) thx ;) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:09) MCI VP |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:09) Vint supports Carnivore, and supports the credit for Gore inventing the net |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:09) I think he is reasonably reasonable, personally |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:09) i agree mmm |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:09) reminds me of an old friend... should i be worried? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:09) yes |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:09) more so then the others currently on board |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:09) kind of you |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:10) Try being on of his customers for a day... |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:10) Why can't we get a Sunrise period to apply to the current namespace? That is, a defined period where UDRPs have to be filed for those who were late to the party - but after that STOP all UDRPs! TM holders will have to buy all those domains they don't want anyone else to use! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:10) well, he has a clue, but there are some skeletons in his closet. Bob Metcalf (inventor of ethernet) saud it best 5 years ago: "Darth Cerf long sold out to the telcos" and this trend continues today |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:10) dotcoms - because people will always be "coming late to the party" |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:11) No, the party has started, and everyone knows about it now |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:11) some people still don't think there IS a party |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:11) Last Call, so to speak |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:11) and they'll whine in 3 years |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:12) funny beginning for a millenium |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:12) That's not an icann technical problem |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:12) how much of today really was? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:12) party hasnt started for 15 yr olds... |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:12) I have several cases where TMs are being applied for on my dotcom names. Will I forever have to be watching and waiting for UDRPs? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:13) yep |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:13) who was that talking? |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:14) who said eternity? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:14) Touton looks pissed. |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:14) brb |
| <Alexander> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:14) is that hans kraaijenbrink? (not sure) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:14) the euro guy? Hand kreikerbraank |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:14) What does icann know about scale? |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:14) thanks |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:15) oh great, Esther acts like she's hearing this for the first time too. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:15) hahahah |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:15) lol |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:15) :) |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:17) Has anyone else's video and scribed notes frozen? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:17) no; but I suddenly have scribe notes for the first time all day! |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:17) scribe's gone got vid |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:17) for a while margia, ok now |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:18) they weren't scribing the report, it was redundant enough without it |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:19) Hi Lisa :) |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:20) Who among you is taking fabulous notes? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:20) hi John.... |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:20) sorry, not me |
| <anon465> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:20) hola! what's the latest? |
| <JohnFrangie> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:20) Hi Andrew |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:20) welcome john ;) |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:20) John: any chance you'll get any angrier than Chris?! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:21) the feed broke up again. anybody else? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:21) well, kinda hard to summarize. Staff report presentations, basically |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:21) nope |
| <JohnFrangie> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:21) Idon't think so |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:21) mine's gone |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:21) resigned? |
| <RobJuneau> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:22) and my time's up. thanks for your patience with me |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:22) welcome lisa |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:22) The realvideo feeds are still working properly. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:22) IOD shareholder meeting? |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:22) If they allow Sunrise on new tlds, then I propose Sunset provision on current tlds! Where's Karl... |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:23) just lost my audio |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:23) Guess Niber justr Rebooted! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:24) retroactive sunrise. Call it a sunset provision. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:24) I like it |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:24) how much does he get paid not to be able to speak into a mike? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:26) Real just crashed... have to reboot again. brb. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:27) ya, why? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:30) is scribe working? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:30) gary, not mine |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:30) we denise |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:30) wb |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:30) hi scott |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:31) thx cow :) |
| <ScottHollenbeck> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:31) How's it going, Richard? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:31) videos frozen, too...what's being said? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:31) dull as dust. same ole same ole, yadda yadda yadda. nothings changed in 18 mos. you? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:32) White Snow? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:32) amadeau is talking. try a reboot. real is flakey |
| <ScottHollenbeck> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:32) Not bad - I'm finding the protocol discussion interesting. |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:32) I think he meant snow white |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:32) :) I know that |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:32) :-) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:33) out of control monster monopolies. ooh ooh. sounds scary. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:34) If the board is so dissatisfied with the staff's recommendations and focus, why don't they get new staff? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:34) since when is it up to ICANN to determine business models or how the market should work? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:34) ah, did somebody ask CORE member to clap? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:35) *Why* do they need to make a decision tomorrow? Where is it engraved in stone ... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:35) If there is a monopoly, should not that be handled by other means? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:35) didn't abril recuse himself? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:35) As a matter of fact ... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:35) well, that IS what anti-trust laws are for Leah |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:35) If there are a hundred TLD's and you don't like one registry, choose another |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:36) the protocol discussions are especialy interesting scott because they speak without, um the benefiot of experience |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:36) Exactly, Richard. so why does ICANN have to be involved in any business model? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:36) that was more than the 3 minutes others will get |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:36) omg... esther's into catering now... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:37) i gotta go into town. back in an hour guys. it's been a slice... |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:37) to big business interests |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:37) later, Richard |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:37) yeah, see you after lunch... |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:37) bye richard |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:37) bye4now |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:37) later |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:41) hello Judith, Leah. What did I miss? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:42) I was dealing with a few fires, here, Joop. Missed most of it |
| <NicholasTurner> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:42) have any of the TLD applicants presented yet? |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:42) Oh, you mean offline fires? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:44) Lisa, best wishes in the outcome. |
| <LisaAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:44) Thanks. I believe the presentions are next. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:45) Off for a quick break myself, afraid to disconnect - may not get back on with the anticipated traffic for next session! bbl |
| <SeanStallings> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:51) evenin' all |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:51) No Cerf's question on the scribe notes, how come he doesn't know there's more talk with the applicants after today/tomorrow: per Touton court Declaration earlier this week, 1st ICANN "selects applications for negotiations, 2nd successful negotiations between ICANN and the applicant concerning terms etc., and *then*, DOC has to approve ICANN's recommendations and order TLD placed in the root." Cerf doesn't know this? |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:59) anyone know when this break ends? |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 15:59) oh, now we're ripping off the Beatles - that number again is 1800BADBEAT or badbeat@riaa.com to report unauthorized internet music distribution such as this |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:00) 1:45 PST |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:00) thx |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:03) ; |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:12) .. |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:13) We really gotta talk about diversity issues when it comes to webcast fill-in music... |
| <Weikers> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:20) Any idea what time .TRAVEL will make their 3-minute presentation? Is it alphabetical order? |
| <JohnBerryhill> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:22) Have any made theirs yet? |
| <Weikers> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:22) I believe they're just coming back from lunch; none yet. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:22) true |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:26) Hellow Andrew. I'd like to thank you for answering my emails the other day in a timely manner. :) |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:28) Leah...Did you see the Youcann.org in Tech Jobs Mag yet? I sent a copy to you |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:33) Hey it's Riverdance |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:34) Should we dance? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:35) yes, hold your arms down at your side and bring those knees up |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:35) And I forgot my tapo shoes! |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:36) oh - such a bummer - try it virtually |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:38) net congestion... argh |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:39) cough cough |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:39) lol |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:40) marcia- r u getting anything? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:40) just people standing around in the video |
| <LisaAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:41) Why don't they ever time the ICANN speakers? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:42) Very good question, Lisa. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:43) her three minutes is almost up |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:43) Kristy, who is speaking? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:43) Esther |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:43) esther dyson |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:44) thanks |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:44) yes, tnx |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:44) hey Kristy |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:44) Hi ! |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:44) you taking all this in... |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:45) If someone is speaking (I have no sound) why does the video show a bunch of people standing around? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:45) Marcia, you are probably looking at a frozen screen |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:45) No, they're moving |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:45) You may want to reload. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:45) yes, i've been looking forward to this portion |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:46) i hope the bandwidth remains available |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:46) oh yea the meat & potatos! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:46) well, unless Esthers face lloks like a bunch of people moving around (which is up for comment), then you have the wrong screen |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:46) no - the marketing spiel |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:47) okay, great, got it |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:47) no scribed notes though |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:47) does anyone have notes yet? |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:47) yes |
| <LisaAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:47) I do |
| <anon511> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:47) yes |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:47) yes |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:47) okay! here we go! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:49) who is that speaking? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:50) Cochetti |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:50) oh, i see. thanks. |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:52) users won't use the internet? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:52) ? |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:53) anyone else lose audio |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:53) ? |
| <Weikers> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:53) No |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:53) no |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:53) thx |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:54) Postel used to say "let a thousand TLDs bloom." |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:54) : ) |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:56) what total garbage! |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:56) this guy's on somebody's payroll, and he ain't telling who... |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:56) who is that man!!!??? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:56) anybody know? |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:56) ccTLD constituency |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:57) isp constituency |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:57) The board should onlyaddress Internet engineering, not market and social engineering. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:57) cctld is now |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:57) bad jab |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:57) Sorry, I guess the webcast is a few minutes (?) behind? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:57) translation: we don't want the competition |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:58) we wouldn;t know ;) |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:58) webcast maybe 30 seconds behind scribe...? |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:58) Is the IRC Scribe actually working somewhere? |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:58) just lost sound. am I the only one? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:58) I couldn't understand him - please someone what did he say? |
| <LisaAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:58) Yes, mine is about 30secs behind |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:58) i have sound |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:58) Thanks |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:59) bcis.law.harvard.edu |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:59) ahhhhhhhh |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:59) lee- happened to me b4... youll have to get out & back in |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:59) Let's find out. I'll type something that Palage says. Someone tell me when he says it on the webcase. Ready? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:59) port 6667, group #Scribe |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:59) board should adopt multiple top level domains |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:59) and if that doesn't work, reboot |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:59) ok, thanks |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:59) item number 4.... now. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:59) ok, i'll transcribe palage |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:59) "originallky adopeted in yokahama |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:59) ok i got it back up.. thanks! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 16:59) first principle |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:00) should adopt multipel domains |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:00) second priciple |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:00) okay, you guys are about, what, 45 seconds behind? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:00) item # 3 |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:00) multiple charfed tlds |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:00) 4 |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:00) enough? |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:00) yes... you're about 45 seconds behind. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:00) well, I am a long way away :-) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:01) actually it's becasue i'm on a 26.4K connection so it' has to buffer a lot before it can play |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:01) why is palage worreid about protocols?????? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:01) no dude - i've got 512 & it's the same |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:01) ah. well, what do I know then :-) |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:02) they're sending little packets |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:02) WHY? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:02) wrong sponsors |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:02) should have used cnn |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:02) is the IETF going to worry about trademarks now? |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:02) why is a registry going to go out of business? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:03) no vint, data is data and can be moved to a different database. the database itself doesn't need to be poertable |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:03) Richard, look at the protocols ... they're being used to advance commercial efforts. |
| <Jeffreyskimming> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:03) why does cerf always wear headphones? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:03) SAN on a pull cart |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:03) cerf is pretty much deaf |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:03) cerf has a hearing problem |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:03) he's deaf |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:03) I'm told one of the NC resolutions is a good one... listen closely. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:03) BINGO ... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:04) who is this? simmons? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:04) good move |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:04) Barbara Simons. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:04) thanks lonny |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:05) PS: Chris Ambler is sitting next to me right now, telling me who most of these people are :) |
| <LisaAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:05) I'm his wife |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:05) Lonny, you're at the meeting, great. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:05) I'm his customer ;-) |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:05) Lisa, is this how you have to keep up with him? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:05) just kidding;) |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:05) I am one of the non-existant technical team members at IOD! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) I'm one of his supporters |
| <LisaAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) Just about ;-) |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) lol |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) hehehe |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) lol |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) you type pretty good for a non-entity lony |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) lol@lonny |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) ouch |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) AAWWW feedback Can ran under the desk |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) ahhhhhh |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) lol |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) feedback central - get a sound engineer, guys |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) AAWWW feedback Cat ran under the desk |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:06) good resolutions coming up for you guys. listen close :) |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:07) AGREE on #6 |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:07) party foul! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:07) Lonny, ICANN feels we (those that back IOD) are fighting for IOD's rights. Actually, it's IOD that is fighting for all our rights... |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:07) Perhaps it's a good amount of both? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:07) sound dropped out at 2 |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:07) yes.. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:07) lost sound! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:07) funny how sound dropped out right there |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:07) really |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:07) yep- lol |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:07) mines back |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:07) and who's paying for this webcast? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:07) NSI? |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:08) lol |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:08) "technically and operationally sound" - no limitation on board |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:08) They said: in competing applications, a TLD should not be granted to any applicant or consortium representing more than 40% of the existing market for .com, .net or .org |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:08) Yes! #6 |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:08) sorry - yes to #7 |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:09) so who has 40%??? NSI!!! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:09) 40%? Does anybody have that much? I"m not even sure NSI does any more |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:09) i thought they were down to 36% |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:09) yes to #8 |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:09) afilias together surely does.... she said consortium |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:09) lost audio... |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:09) Afilias, together, has approximately a 98% market share. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:09) certainly no one else, except the consortiums |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:09) Afilias together is 90+% |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:09) Cerf wants paper? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:10) so they give .biz to ababcus? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:10) yeah. somebody email vint a copy |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:10) :( |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:10) Strictly Registry, Afilias (NSI) I think is under 40% |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:10) I'm surprised Afilias didn't apply for .biz |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:10) why is IPC talking again? didn't palage represent them? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:10) not so Ray |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:10) #7 says registration services - nothing to do with registry?!!? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:10) IPC acts like it goes begging consideration with ICANN ... puleeze |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:11) Ray statistically I had heard a new Domain name was registered 1 every 3 seconds.... is that still the case? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:11) that's roughly correct |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:11) MmmCow....you're right |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:12) Richard I had heard those figures like 5 or 6 months ago... didn't know if they were still up to date? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:12) is he going to get specific? anyone have a url? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:13) well, it's within an order of magnitude |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:13) its called freedom |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:13) I think he is, but he only has 50 seconds left... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:13) what a toad |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:13) lol |
| <LisaAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:13) I'm sorry I'm not familiar with that word could you explain it ;-) |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:13) Richard I've notices sales drop off of existing names drop off but new regs increase. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:14) ribbit |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:14) at least he's not shouting for more than UDRP... |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:14) Compare that to Froomkin's comment that UDRP is the maximum of IPR protection reasonably conceivable |
| <Jeffreyskimming> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:14) Hopefully he will denounce the sunrise provision. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:14) not a chance |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:14) he wont denounce, but he doesnt have time to even mention it |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:14) Sunrise sunset.... yubba dubba dooba do |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:14) I got knocked off - who's this guy? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:15) they just aren't aware of european laws whihc make whois illegal |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:15) what a toad |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:15) metaliza |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:15) I sure would have liked to hear his list... |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:15) perfect timing lewco |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:15) should be illegal here, too |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:15) so this "masterful" guy is who? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:15) Metaliza |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:15) IPC |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:15) Steve Metalitz, chair of IPC |
| <LisaAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:15) Did he say where his list is available? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:16) If I were a rich man.... yubba dubba dooba do... all day long I wouldn't have to sit here and sell domains... yubba dubba dooba do. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:16) "Masterful", huh? is Esther gushing? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:16) Squatter on the Roof? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:16) We should ask Ken Stubbs to answer the question left over from Yokohama |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:16) Yes Cow! |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:16) indeed |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:16) do it |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:16) well tommorow starts a whole new ball game for us |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:16) speak of the devil... |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:17) can we leave? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:17) not influence board members? don't vote? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:17) they all leave... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:17) Grrrrrr |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:17) who left? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:18) quick speed fix pre-presentation to get in half-hour presentation in 3 minutes. |
| <LisaAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:18) Are they going alphabetical for presnetations? |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:18) Alphabetical within groups. IOD is #9. |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:18) recused: Amadeu Abril i Abril, Rob Blokzijl, Greg Crew, Phil Davidson |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:19) what tld do they want? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:19) they all own stake in new TLD applications |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:19) where does affilias come in ? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:19) Abril i Abril already spoke on the new TLD's at length before lunch ... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:19) .biz |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:19) as far as number? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:19) yes, judith, he's getting his shots even anyhow |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:19) http://www.tbtf.com/roving_reporter |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:19) shots in anyhow |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:20) wants biz, cool, fam, inc. xxx |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:20) hi diane |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:21) ah |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:21) "In a human rights sense, ICANN is itself a "cybersquatter" on a global public resource-- and on the precedent of the WIPO UDRP caswes ought have its "domain" transferred to the worldwide community of internet users and ppoential users-- see Substantive |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:21) abril being recused shouldn't even be in the room |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:21) some indication that they're sensitive to collisions |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:21) This is crap. only three min, what a joke!! |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:21) these guys are stalinists |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:21) ICANN should think of itself as a steward |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:22) 3 min limitation is for those that are out of favor. |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:22) All applicants get 3 minutes. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:22) Len, its called CyberHQ: The New Imperialism. (not as fast on the URL as Dawson, I'll get it to you in a minute.) |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:22) correcting previous post "caswes"=cases, "ppoential"=potential, Substantive+Comments |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:22) not much for $50,000 |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:22) Grrrrr |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:23) Why the growling Leah? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:23) <--- ashamed of being british right now |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:23) (btw cyberhoarding.com is unregistered!) |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:23) lol |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:23) <---- Ashambed of having relatives in Florida |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:23) who is this plonker? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:24) some bloke from infinity for .biz |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:24) I think he's from the ministry of silly walks |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:24) Affinity. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:24) lol |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:24) lol |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:24) lol |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:24) <------- ashamed to own a domain name |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:24) someone that's there just walk up and slap him |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:24) Hey you want we recommend that when it's ready for the vote they recruit the Vote Counters From the florida General Election. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:24) BS. all it means is it will cst speculators more, hence raise prices of their speculaetd names |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:25) Will all comments of applicants be in the final scription, Ben? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:25) 4 minutes 17 seconds |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:25) Is the Scribe stuck? |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:25) Time taken to answer board questions don't count. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:25) Who will win the speed reading contest? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:25) "you can shop at .biz and be sure" ... Leah, that's good, eh? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:25) You can even quote Esther! |
| <dianecabell> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:25) Hey, Richard. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:25) hehe |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:25) Hey, if this is alphabetical, does that mean Afilias isn't making a presentation? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:25) save the Ken for last |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:25) Aff < Afi |
| <Weikers> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:25) Fait accompli? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) i thught this was Aff |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) eeej |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) eeek |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) someone that's there just walk up and slap him |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) icann.biz |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) two ffs? okay |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) "either" .web .info or .site |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) here they come |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) except we're not going to put ourselves in the position to screen registrants or business practices any more than ICANN should |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) is NSI part of this group? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) Yes. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) booooooooooooo |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) booooooooooooooooooooooo |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) does he have horns? |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) I think i'll go to the bathroom now. |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:26) raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeee (cat screech) |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:27) GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:27) they're detachable |
| <Jeffreyskimming> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:27) I think he speaks with forked lisp |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:27) so's his soul |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:27) Hi Judith, what url? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:27) they are geographically diverse monopoly |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:27) he's a very weak speaker |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:27) here we go, i have no sound; could someone script key points here please |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:27) yea he is |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:28) NSI is holding up cue cards |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:28) I would never buy a thing from them! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:28) he is feeding us the standard line from NSI |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:28) yep, no meat! all fluuf |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:28) all fluff |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:28) hmmm. no questions from the board. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:28) competion...blah blah blah |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:28) Len, you said ICANN's a cybersquatter; URL to CyberHQ: The New Imperialism. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:29) qualification .. .blah blah blah |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:29) No questions and shorter than 3 minutes??? Hmmm... |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:29) lonny - you must be almost a full minute ahead of me.. |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:29) maybe it's a done deal |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:29) you can't tell them they've won yet Esther |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:29) or they think it is |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:29) Simon, why aren't you here? Chris said you live in the area, don't you? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:29) Judith, I'll have it up on tldlobby sometime tonight also, k? |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:29) I'll be there tomorrow |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:29) I think I have it somewhere |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:30) what time does it finish today? |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:30) 6pm, I think. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:30) Let's stripmall the net |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:30) oh, someone might go to McDonalds.name instead of the dotcom, right? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:30) Affinity don't want people to hourd domains, they think by charging $2000 a time this will stop this practice, are they dumb? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:30) 90 seconds |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:31) no they are just metally challenged |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:31) this guy is very good |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:31) TDL, lol |
| <Jeffreyskimming> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:31) Lisa, is the IOD legal staff in the room? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:31) did Deibold ever reveal their financial info? Weren't they withholding information? |
| <Weikers> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:31) No and yes |
| <LisaAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:31) I'm not sure. I'm at home and not there. |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:31) Deibold is prohibited by SEC law from giving out financial information. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:32) i dunno. that mystifies me. they're a multi billion dollar company |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:32) they did ot allow it to be published |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:32) So if I have a million dollors how many domains can I buy from Affinity? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:32) but they revealed it to ICANN yes? |
| <Weikers> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:32) Yes |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:32) Jeffrey, they don't need to be...with the saved live feeds and all.. |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:32) No, My understanding is that ICANN refused to keep it confidential, so Diebold had to withdraw it completely. |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:32) diebold withheld financials |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:32) sound dropped out |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:33) back |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:33) read the card... |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:33) over 50 million or billion for R&D? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:33) m |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:33) ty |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:33) community? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:33) who the banks? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:34) Kristy... Million or Billion... It's more than I'd ever earn in either case! |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:34) ;) if it was billion - i'd consider a new job |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:34) How does this help the Internet in general? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:34) good question Vint! |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:35) "IOD" Warming up wooo hoo! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:35) yes but not as well |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:35) I can see how it helps Diebold... |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:35) it's a financial version of the sipernet |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:35) OK, suppose I don't have $2000 to buy a dotbiz from Affinity, does that mean my biz is crap and not likely to compete with the big boys, or given the chance to grow on the net as a dot biz? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:35) Kendall Diebold makes cash registers and such too don't they? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:36) yes I think so... but, I still fail to see how this helps the individual Net user |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:36) [Microsoft] " has waged an unlawful campaign in defense of its monopoly position" http://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/ms-conclusions.html |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:36) they make bank teller machines. they started out making vaults. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:36) they want to corner the market for secure network transactions |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:36) They're not making their case too well either. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:36) stick it to them Vint! |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:36) oh my... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:36) hey, these are good guys |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:36) they're a Verisign competitor, yes? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:36) Richard, why? |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) good grief |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) uh, no they're not really |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) oh my! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) lol |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) Vint's argument to the max is, why a new .biz, why not biz.com |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) Both Vint and Esther are just blasting them! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) they have real infrastructure, they have clues... |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) Must be for Electronic Funds transfers... next they'll be doing ATM machines... and some hacker ill reprogram it to have 'em spitting out $20's at the local grocery store or gas station |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) That had to hurt. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) duh esther |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) but how does it help the individual user? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) They're all trying to use TLD's as marketing seals! |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) [Microsoft] "has engaged in a series of exclusionary, anticompetitive and predatory acts to maintain its monopoly power" op cit |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) hasn't she heard about NSI's "branding" of .com? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:37) Affinity have no case to tout these absurd prices |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:38) nice try guys & she says good bye to them |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:38) Heck, just sticking a TLD onto a domain won't make it any more secure. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:38) I think that's Vint's point. |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:38) "buh bye" SNL David Spade! |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:38) Spot the difference between ICANN and Microsoft? This is going to end up in the Supreme Court folks so dont rush out and register anything just yet |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:38) $2,000 per domain name? sure, I'll Reg 50 names now! where do I send the check? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:38) no, but if yuo have a choice of foo.com and foo.secure and you want securiey what will you most likely chose |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:39) The argument that the financial community will more secure on the net, just because they can call themselves ".secure", sounds a bit strange, either. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:39) Dubai is really picking up steam lately... they will become the new Silicon Valley of the Arab world |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:39) LOL ash |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:39) no I use https |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:39) they have an internet city and a gened up Sheikh |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:39) ok, so https://foo.com or https://foo.secure |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:39) Dubai has implemented the solution that Neil Stephenson outlined in "Cryptonomicon" |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:39) lost audio |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:39) dot-secure is security by advertising, but without any guarantees. It just doesn't mean _anything_. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:39) figures |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:39) http://www.sheikhmohammed.com i think |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:40) https://foo.w |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:40) Richard you mean Fool.Secure or Chump.Secure ? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:40) data haven! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:40) do we get oil wwith .dubai |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:40) like Sealand? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:40) Dubai can afford to buy affinity.biz see how they like that, haha |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:40) well, if you don't like .secure - don't use it. but why would you want to prevent other people from using it |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:40) Actually, the International Court of Justice can also look at this if any UN Member State takes it up (and there are already many on the "wrong" side of the North South divide ready to do just that) |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:41) argh- net congestion |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:41) :(sorry:) they can use it |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:41) Oh my! Look who iDomains sends up... |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:41) someone trying to steal someone else's 3 mins? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:41) Dubai is going to patrol content ... |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:41) they lost someone |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:41) can't believe they letthat "quality check" thing go by |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:41) eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:41) like affinity want to, how? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:42) judith - all arab states do, they (icann) can't challenge it for cultural reasons |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:42) not to mention the NC Chair |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:42) Can anyone see idomains yet? |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:42) What a sham |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:42) I can't believe Stubbs is pitching, after so much time sitting at the meeting head tables! |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:42) Please someone slap him before he starts |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:42) agreed judith |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:42) Yes Denise. my computer was sneezing before |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:42) and on the board of CORE too... oops. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:42) unreal |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:42) You'd think he'd try to be less visible on the pitch side ... |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:42) This is like the great internet train robbery |
| <OscarCisneros> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:42) Will the ICANN Staff or Scribe be listing the 19 TLD strings chosen by the IPC? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) is he bidding for .schmuck ? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) and on the Whois commitee |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) .punk |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) .greed |
| <LisaAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) Let's introduce .Stubbs |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) .corrupt! |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) go one cow |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) should I say gravy train |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) big GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) This is exactly what Postel DIDN't want |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) only because .conflict-of-interest was taken |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) we make the rules up as we go |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) Who is he? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) down, Leah, down! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) Ken Stubbs |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) okay both my cats just left the room |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) lol richard |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) .stubbs? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) He is the chair of the Names Council |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) .antichrist |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) You'd think even the mainstream press would find it unseemly to see him on both sides of this |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) Resign Ken |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) ohhhhh, we could put .stubbs in the ORSC root right now |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:43) Gary, let's hope so. |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:44) Do it |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:44) someone unplugged him? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:44) good thought, Richard :) |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:44) he's lon gon his ssssssssssssssss'ssssss |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:44) I want stubbs.sucks do you think James Love will get it first? |
| <Jeffreyskimming> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:44) Isn't there a policy that prohibits him from pitching an application? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:44) I wonder who has AfiliasSucks.com |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:44) ok, if people email me (richard@vrx.net) all the things Ken does then I'll set up conflict-of-interest.stubbs and link it from dnso.com |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:44) try afilias.tv |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:44) There was under Postels reign |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:44) affinity.gravytrain |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:45) no ... ICANN has a conflict of interest policy but the supporting organizations dont |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:45) stubbs-sucks.online |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:45) Where's my Hip Waiders? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:45) all of them |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:45) Someone in the room call him on the conflict of interest |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:45) that was sickening |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:45) gag |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:46) You mean like conflict of interest? Yes, there is a policy to enforce consensus policies, so as soon as conflict of interest becomes a consensus policy, it'll be studied and reported on a year from now ... |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:46) dotgravy |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:46) call him on the conflict of interest! |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:46) all third levels? |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:46) ok...you're right, just give me .web |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:46) Kendall he's prob on that board too and will fail to recognize it. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:46) 3rd levels where the 2nd level is a cc |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:46) no sense |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:47) surprised he isn't wearing a pair of Groucho glasses w/ nose |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:47) he may not be on the voting board but he works side by side with them. |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:47) go Chris!!! |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:47) I don't have video... just audio on ReapPlayer7 whjere you get video? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:47) she can't even say it without almost gagging |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:47) Hi Oscar, are you still enrolling at Boult? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:47) yes... I have a couple |
| <OscarCisneros> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:47) Yes. |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:47) vid and sound gone here |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:47) watch esther's mock-puzzlement |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:48) finally... Ambler.. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:48) hahahaha - all friends together now.. |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:48) what do ya click for video? |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:48) come on IOD!!!!! |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:48) Have they appointed the director yet, OC? |
| <OscarCisneros> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:48) Anyone have any thoughts on IOD? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:48) backup #2 |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:48) Next this guy's gonna say he invented the internet. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:48) True |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:48) lol recount! ! |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:48) IOD=.web |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:48) True |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:48) The video feeds are available off of the broadcast page. All feeds are functioning with both video and audio. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:49) uh, sort of, he did write uucp for pc's which was th eonly wqay to send emial in the early 90's on pcs |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:49) True |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:49) GOOOOOOOOOO Chirs! |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:49) no Asher...just .web |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:49) can we call the Florida Vote Counters to count the vote? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:49) i used his software, it was very good |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:49) Richard: That uupc stuff? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:49) fsuucp |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:49) RNellson With Real Player7, how do ya get Video? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:49) it was th eonm;ly one i could get to work |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:50) If he doesnt win it will be the biggest sham ICANN has ever participated in |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:50) 199.166.24.1 |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:50) I was blind but now I see, arrghhhhhhhh, thud. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:50) go chris - too true |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:51) thats what we want to know Vint! |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:51) yeah for our team |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:51) gee...no kidding |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:51) that's good vint |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:51) he's not mentioning orsc |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:51) what did vint say? |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:51) huh??? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:51) he said if you have a registy in operation why can' t we go to a .web and find it in the root? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:52) vint: if someone registers .web today, how does anyone find their site? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:52) "things would work better id the rootr servers pointed to you". massiviely insincerity. Vint knows what orsc is and does |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:52) duh... |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:52) now as i was typing that response - what did chris say, lol |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:52) rubbish |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:52) was that a mere slight on vints part?? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:52) oh yeah |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:52) Sorry everyone, I was busy posting on the comment board during Chris' presentation. What did he say? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:52) why are they all selling security? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:53) that hes ready willing and able |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:53) give him the green light and he's in there today. |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:53) gangsters.biz, oh they are a dotbiz that means I can trust them! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:53) Did he say anything about inaccuracies in the staff report? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:53) GRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:53) that he's had it working for 5 years, and that the reason they don't plan to spend a lot of money |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:53) scribe did not scribe anything on IOD except reponse to Vint |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:53) Chris' presentation was nice. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:53) whihc was a complaint of the staff report is because they've alreadt spent it |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:53) scribe hasnt been doing that for anyone |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:54) and thet theior hardware and software is already deployed |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:54) he was very sure of himself and his presentation |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:54) except idomains |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:54) Chris focused on the positive. He was great. |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:54) No there was scribing on the 3166 country codes |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:54) Did he comment on the staff's assessment of his application? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:54) no |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:54) When presentations are given, the presentations are linked off of the agenda and are not scribed. Only questions are scribed. Please refer to the agenda to view the presentations. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:54) well, that might be prudent |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:55) Sort-of - he mentioned that basing a criteria on spending a lot of money is questionable. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:55) scribe gave idomains 5 lines, jvteam 1 line, nobody else anything |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:56) how many more, anybody know?? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:56) Marcia - he focused on the good and didn't start mudslinging (although he has every right to) |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:56) it is a secrete, probably |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:56) one thing that should be pointed out is that IOD is the only applicant who's funding has come primarily from public support, up to now. That means something, IMO. |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:56) Bob: Next are KDD, Name.Space, NeuStar, Rathbawm. Then other categories of TLDs. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:56) thanks Kendall, that was prudent of him |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:56) is this guy nerveous? |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) thx |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) You may refer to the list of presentations linked off the agenda to see the order in which presentations will be given this afternoon. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) Folks, I recognize there's a special need to be careful in scribing this particular section of hte meeting. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) Here's what I'm doing: |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) Cow, it means everything |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) no, he's japanese |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) 1) Typing the company name and first TLD string requested for each applicant. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) 2) displaying a presentation, if one was given to me by the applicant |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) We understand, Ben. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) 3) Scribing the question-and-answer session that follows the prepared presentation. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) Kristy - "stability of the internet" |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) hee hee hee |
| <Weikers> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) Ben, will the video feed be available for playback later? |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:57) Furthermore, and here's the subtlety, when an applicant's presentation includes something that seems to me genuinely confusing, |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:58) I may attempt to briefly capture what they're saying. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:58) This is primarily for the non-native speakers, who have repeatedly told me that they can better understand written text than oral comments. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:58) ben - you're the scribe? |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:58) Ben, there's real video archives, so I don't think anyone is criticizing your decisions WRT scribing. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:58) @##$%#$% |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:58) Weikers, yes, the video will be available this evening. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:58) And those of us without sound, Ben., :( |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:58) Lonny, I didn't think anyone was criticizing. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:58) Just wanted to be clear in case anyone was unsure what was going on. |
| <Weikers> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:58) Good work, Ben. Thanks from all of us. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:58) you aren't missing much... |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:58) While we are on it: Thanks a lot to Rebecca and Benjamin for all that work they are doing here... |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) Yes, thank you Ben |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) That's what I wasy saying :-) |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) Thx. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) Yes, thank you also Rebecca |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) Without Ben, none of us could be here. Thanks |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) Thanks for the e-mail ben. |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) He has a good point |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) thank you for your hard work Ben and Rebecca |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) aud/vid feed went down. anybody else? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) no |
| <Jeffreyskimming> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) Ben, thanks for doing such a great job. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) times up |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) One thing about Paul Garrin - he has good taste in business suits! (says Chris) |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) Vid is fine |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) back |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 17:59) what was ambiguous in stubbs' presentation? he was crystal clear imo... |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:00) BEn, Rebecca: I suppose you are eligible for free beers world-wide. ,-) |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:00) now if he'd just stand up straight! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:00) Wheres Paul? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:00) rhetorical question of course.. |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:00) A start up in africa may not have $2000 to buy a dotbiz |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:00) Rebecca, Chris wants to know if you like basketball :-) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:00) this ought to be funny |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:01) new data at http://www.worldcourt4humanrights.com/icanngov.html |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:01) the more the merrier |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:01) No beers for me; I'm not of age! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:01) the feed keeps dropping out. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:01) Lonny, tell Chris: Sorry I missed your presentation, I was busy posting my support of your company and its goals on the comment board. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:01) And thank you for presenting. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:01) Hey hey all |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:02) Who is this talking right now? |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:02) Chris is sitting next to me, and says thanks. All of the support is appreciated more than you know! |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:02) suck |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:02) Paul Garrin |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:02) paul garrin |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:02) Thanks.. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:02) how come porn site can mange to stream dirty movies al day long but this thing keeps having problems |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:02) Please no .web domains..they have no point.. I can see adding names like .art...but .web...wtf? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:02) Judith: I can't wait to re-listen to the statements before and after "stability of the internet"! Why...would he say that? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:02) Lonny let him know we have concensus here that his presentation was 100% right |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:03) because it's generic, you dolt |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:03) yes, he gave the best presentation so fra |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:03) I don't think name.space is trying to grab .web anymore are they? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:03) what? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:03) The funny part is, when I came back to the live feed, the next guy was talking, and I thought it was Chris. I was yelling to my computer, "Chris, get your hands out of your pockets, that doesn't look professional!: Then I realized it wasn't him. |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:03) oh ok i'll open up scubadive.art?? huh?? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:03) Stan oif you don't want a .web name don't use one. But other people - lots of them, seem to want them |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:03) :) |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:03) why add them? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:03) I want stubbs-sucks.art |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:03) .com and .net are great? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:03) why not stan? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:04) name.space backed off .web in favor of IOD |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:04) .info, .biz, .space |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:04) I want art-sucks.stubbs |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:04) no drop outs: I've had continuous audio and video for two hours. maybe you have local network congestion or firewall issues |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:04) me too Bob |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:04) me to ... but I'm on a T1 |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:04) me too, and me too |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:04) l33t nader .green and .sucks |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:04) he's blowing it |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:04) cable modem, audio drops only a couple times |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:04) why have dot biz, are people trying to give the impression that the companies that have them are all up front? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:04) yes! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:05) stubss.sucks |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:05) Go Esther! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:05) thisguytalking.sucks |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:05) who is he? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:05) they hate him |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:05) they hate him because he's creative and successful |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:05) and he wonders why the IPers don't like him? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:05) cnndoes.sucks |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:05) too bad... they stand for free speech |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:06) Judith: I think he's KDD Internet Solutions -- missed the name |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:06) critisism is not a crime |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:06) whats his name? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:06) I will sell cnn.sucks to CNN for $1 millions!! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:06) No, he's namespace |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:06) Too bad he didn't say all domain names are free speech turf |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:06) paul garin |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:06) Paul Garrin from Name.space |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:06) affinty.sucks |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:06) he's for free speech, but against capitalism? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:06) uh, yeah, and speculation of tlds with namespace havin 900+ tlds isn't speculation paul? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:06) whatever |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:06) Looks like that Moooo. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:07) no... there is a difference been squatting and critisism |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:07) biz.sucks |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:07) some of these folks have called me, trying to remember who ... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:07) out of his 900 tlds 13 of them are not empty |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:07) exactly Richard |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:07) paul "icann please make me money" garrin |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:07) He lost my support |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:07) estheris.confused |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:07) forward.back |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:07) is he grovelling? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:08) Tell this guy to sit down. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:08) he wants 900 TLDs, but JoePublic can't have more than one name |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:08) used.cars |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:08) get.lost |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:08) he has a good idea... but he is a bit greedy |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:08) Isn't his three minutes up? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:08) honest.john |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:08) 7 minutes so far |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:08) paulstimeisup.now |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:08) The three minute limit is for initial comments. |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:08) If the Board wants to ask questions, that can continue for as long as they like. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:08) baaa .web |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:09) pc crash - how did name.space end please? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:09) ah, namespace has people there clapping |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:09) GRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:09) GGRRRrrrrrrrrrrr |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:09) he's still going and going and going |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:09) they were clapping because he sat down |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:09) dotbiz = dotcon |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:09) duh...it's like having www.domain.www |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:09) name.space has poeple in every cioty in every world |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:09) we know that .. Chris Ambler proved it |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:09) that guy would look bette rwith a pony tail |
| <LisaAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:10) who's speaking now? my scribe stopped |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:10) Neustar want to steal the domain and hijack it for themselves - talk about squatting |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:10) Neustar |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:10) Some .web dude.. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:10) Ben, have you scribed any questions from the board to namespace? I show none. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:10) or Rebecca? |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:10) .dot, .info, .site, .spot, .surf, .web |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:10) fitzsimmons is scribed |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:11) .dot and .web are so funny.. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:11) how about .steal ? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:11) Kendall i ran upstairs for a potty break... is this guy talking from Neustar? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:11) then my scribe stopped again ;( |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:11) boy i get the impression "somebody" asked these guys to run .web. "hey, get the guys that run the phone numbers to do .web as well" |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:11) yes Asher |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:11) how bout .dead for dead people? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:11) lol |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:11) thanks Kendal |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:11) liestill.dead |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:11) haha |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:12) does Ken Stubbs own stake in Neustar? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:12) Dang I should go there..and ask this people questions |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:12) just lost video/audio |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:12) neustar.dead |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:12) :) |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:12) Yes, I scribed a bit from namespace. let me see what's wrong. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:12) got it back |
| <BenjaminEdelman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:12) they'll come through in a second. |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:12) hey why not .QUACK I know several Docs that would use it... would You trust Dr. Feelgood at Dr@Feelgood.Quack ? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:13) I would trust him |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:13) It would be a good counterpoint to .health |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:13) Before I forget, good job Ben and others involved! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:13) there should be thousands of TLDs Asher... we can have themall |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:13) Then I could buy a dotdead of him |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:13) Well, that's it for generics. Now we get to hear from CORE, with their .nom application. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:13) where's Dave Crocker? |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:13) Marcia, Scribe's Notes should be showing Name.Space now. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:14) yup ben |
| <BobStobbard> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:14) gotta go, good luck Chris!! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:16) man..these people need to work on argumention skills. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:16) I don't really understand their proposal. Are they wanting to do first.last.nom or last.first.nom or other? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:16) Ken: he didn't state it well |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:16) Stubbs does work for NeuStar. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:16) I knew it.... who doesn't he work for? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:16) IOD |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:17) thank god! |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:17) What's he saying about IP? |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:17) Sound's gone here. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:17) he wants a unified whois |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:17) he is saying "ahhh...ahhh" |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:17) Is it only for personal names or is dot nom for anyone who can't afford $2000 for a dot biz? |
| <LisaAmbler> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:17) I'm outta here. Actually gotta do some work today. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:17) bye lisa! |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:18) bye lisa. |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:18) Bye Lisa |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:18) bye Lisa, thanks for being here |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:18) Vint.mcdonalds.sucks |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:18) HaX0r.nom |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:18) sunrise period.. |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:18) Lisa, Chris says goodbye, and he'll see you at the Airport in a few days (and that he loves you!) |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:18) really? i own my surname in plural in .com.... |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:18) Had problems here; who is speaking for CORE? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:19) mcdonald-sell-meat-that -is.dead |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:19) for the whole family.... good job i'm not mcdonald |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:19) lol |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:19) oh no.. |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:19) Applying UDRP to .nom is outright stupid. Restrict people to register domains which at least roughly match their own names. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:19) this guy again.. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:19) didn't catch his name... |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:19) ban all scots from the net |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:19) Traditional TM law is working that way, too. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:19) heres a game...which board member is running this TLD? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:19) hey |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:20) Who justed joined Sarnoff? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:20) A crazy guy. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:20) historic moment...hear that? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:20) historic moment..wtf is he talking about? |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:20) JVTeam just joined Sarnoff, increasing their number of applications to FOUR. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:20) grandstanding |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:20) get off! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:20) more time please? what about the original guy speaking? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:21) What does Sarnoff get out of it, besides an existing numbering plan administrator and an existing domain registry? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:21) money |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:21) one of the best... not the best... just one of them |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:22) look at the guy at the podium he doens' t look happy |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:22) he's sacked |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:22) he's like who is this guy who jumped up and grabbed the microphone? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:23) the only one? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:23) I pre-regged 200000 .web's I will become ultra rich!!! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:23) don't count your chickens just yet... |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:23) Stan but they aren't in Root |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:23) who needs root when you are a HaX0r! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:24) Stan cannot be serious |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:24) Stan=Marc Brittan x100? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:24) is his 3 minutes up yet? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:24) I am just making a point... |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:24) Bet you can't get 20000 dot biz names |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:24) that's the only reason people want .web names. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:24) Sarnoff doesn't need JV... must want the number administration and/or the registry |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:24) lol |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:24) Stan, YOU ARE VERY WRONG |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:24) .iii ?? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:24) .iii? it was .i last week |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:24) stan your on crack. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:24) .i is better |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:25) no...Why not get .net or .org..why is .web good? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:25) vint.thinks.hard |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:25) then you could find me at k.w.i |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:25) whoaah. no way stan..... no way...... very wrong |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:25) im dead... transfer my domain name |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:25) Stan, please email me and I will point you to sources so that you may be come informed marcialynn@att.net |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:25) tell me why .web is better then .net then? |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:25) Cause the name I want in .com .net .org is gone...jesus did you just wake up out of a coma? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:25) become |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:25) esther is getting her jolly's on mergers and aquisitions |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:26) JV is already a joint venture of Melbourne IT (registry) and NeuStar (number administrator) |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:26) I will sell you a dot dead domain if ICANN aprove |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:26) .web is sexy because everyone calls the Internet the "Web" these days. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:26) it's not beter STan, it's different. And all the names aren't alreadt taken |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:26) stan - i want a .web whose .org was regged in 97... that's why |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:26) what .web andrew? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:26) seriously... what about domains that expire? do they still go back into the "pool" ?? |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:26) Basically, using the new TLDs will just mean "we are late adopters". People will still prefer the traditional gTLDs. |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:27) True |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:27) Very true _r |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:27) Right on, slam the process for 3 minutes |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:27) stan - one i preregistered for a future business - that probably now wont happen |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:27) _r: depends on the name and the context |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:27) right on gary |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:27) Gary who? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:27) anything other then .com is seen has "missed the bus" to the general public. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:27) Oshbourne |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:27) one whose .com was sold and transferred in June 2000... |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:27) ty |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:28) .tv is really advertising lately |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:28) andrew: business? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:28) portal |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:28) er, that's Osbourne.iii :) |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:28) business.web? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:28) no. no more details |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:28) .iii is probably the most meaningless name i've seen in awhile |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:28) why? |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:29) "3i" is a company |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:29) Andrew: you have many names! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:29) sure... but, how does that help individual internet users? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:29) i do, stan |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:29) That speaker was great! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:29) I think they started with .i and were denied a single letter tld |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:29) got a good hand |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:29) what did he say? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:29) bitch |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:29) YEAH! |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:30) here here |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:30) it doesn't |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:30) He spent 3 minutes slamming them |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:30) he's ripping on Esther... |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:30) seriously! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:30) especially considering those popele read the stupid stadff report to us all morning |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:30) doing a good job at it |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:30) $50 K buys you a 3 minute sales pitch |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:30) who is this guy? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:31) .nom consortium |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:31) that's $16,666 per minute ... hmmm ... |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:31) oh no... not the .iii again? |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:31) someone buy this guy a drink afterwards |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:31) oh sure ICANN plays offended |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:31) Andrew: I was right on the dot..about why you want .web. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:32) I hope the press picks up on this one too |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:32) Are they threatening him with 'withdrawal' because he didn't comply with their 3 minutes?! |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:32) who is that person who's arguing with the board? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:32) very true! this guy has a great point |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:32) yes he did, ha ha |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:32) stan i develop and trade |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:32) Esther is getting booed |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:32) rude estie, rude |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:32) Ester.Sucks |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:32) Nothing wrong with that..But that's why most people want .web |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:32) another $50 k and you can talk |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:32) Procedural mistake ... she is *such* a bitch |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:33) lets add more now Vint! |
| <JohnFrangie> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:33) Ben, wireless seems to be down in the room |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:33) Judith - the language again - I going to start talking about fruit cocktail - obviously things are going downhill here so we might as well make it a dogs breakfast |
| <BRoseman> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:33) its back up now |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:33) stan and it's one reason why i want a couple of other .webs...i freely admit it.... and statistically you may be right... |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:34) ahh... that's who he is. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:34) The thing is..the poor people that reg'ed a million .web's are going to be out some money here soon. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:34) who is he? he spoke strictly about lack of process and time? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:34) .tv is really pushing new ccTLDs big time.. he's the CEO of .tv ?? |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:34) thats what i want to know - who is he |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:34) He they want to charge us $2000 a time to buy a dot biz, $50000 is nothing to these guys, if they want to moan for 3 mins they should be charged accordingly, |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:34) he said he's the owner of .tv domain |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:34) Yes, he's with dotnom, which is dottv, which is idealab |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:34) Thank you Stan for that gem of wisdom. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:35) Hey it's Lliam Neesen. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:35) he's .tv? He's screwed, ICANN wants to told "generic" ccTLD's under ICANN as gTLD's. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:35) that's "fold" |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:35) judith? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:35) If he was the ceo of dottv, which I think it was, his name is Lou Kerster |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:35) you mean the CCtld tax that Europe balked at? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:35) You know if .web does pass...they are going to reset the "reg" and it's going to be an open market...all pre-reg's will be tossed out.. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:35) Andrew, what? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:35) explain? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:36) Stan Who would byy names from someone that isn't affiliated with an ICANN registrar or Not in Root? You know anyone like that? Ducking! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:36) hhehee Asher! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:36) I don't think it's that clear at all Stan |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:36) Surely You know better! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:36) Rich: let me pull a quote. |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:36) lol asher |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:37) Dottv hosted the evening bash last night, so mebbe esther got drunk and P him off |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:37) Sure Stan, mail it t ome at richard@tangled.web |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:37) No, there are plans afoot to fold generic ccTLD's into ICANN as gTLD's |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:37) yes .. we need an exclusive NON-COMMERCIAL TLD! |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:37) "as gTLDs"? you mean "in the same way as gTLDs?" |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:37) long live dot dead |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:37) problem is you can't control what goes on in a tld. you can say it's non commercial, like .org was but it's IMPOSSIBLE to police it |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:37) That's what ICANN wants. It also doesn't want to deal directly with ccTLD operators, but rather with GAC, who'll tell the ccTLD operators what to do. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:38) it does not scale |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:38) right. thx |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:38) It gives ICANN control. Its what they want. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:38) thats what the UDRP is for Richard |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:38) nsi used to police .org until they found a revenue stream |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:38) (I think its payback for the ccTLD's not paying ICANN's bills.) |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:38) Judith, other than the obvious on icann site, is there other stuff posted anywhere |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:38) (I secretly afree with your Judith) |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:39) that's agree |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:39) udrp doesn't address content. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:39) should it? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:39) no |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:39) that's what courts are for |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:39) Simon: yep..you use to have to be a Non-Prof. to get .org |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:39) It will. UDRP v.3 |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:39) Gary, read ICB tonight. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:39) Thx. J |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:40) when I was your age... |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:40) I promised someone a URL earlier: http://www.icbtollfree.com/cyberhq.html . Who? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:40) no you don't stan. look at www.mbz.org |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:40) I don't make a profit that mean I can get a dot org, cool |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:40) Richard: that use to be the case.. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:40) not anymore. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:40) do you think that the IPC will try to start policing second level domains? |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:40) Thanks Judith |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:41) no, it never was. that's a myth. RFC1591 suggested that's what it should be for, but there was never any enforecement ever |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:41) Vint rips on AoL.. that was good |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:41) very well said |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:41) Richard: Didn't you use to have to also be "using" the domain back in 96 or so. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:42) you know it Esther |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:42) I know, I have a dot org, I forgot what I got it for, but it hasn't made a dime! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:42) no stan. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:42) were you trying to make money Leon? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:42) money from a .org!!! shame on you! =] |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:42) theme music! |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:42) No, I t was given to me |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:43) I have a couple of domains.. but they are for personal use.. because I wanted them not to make money |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:43) gotta esthers haircut on my mind |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:43) But you can buy it off me if you ever want to make a non profit on it. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:43) devil's hair cut from Beck...good ICANN music |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:44) the first ISP in tronto was io.org - 1992 |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:44) how about Sympathy for the Devil next? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:44) Another bad hair day. ICANN's good for that |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:44) haha, YEAH |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:44) www.best-of-icann-music.shop? |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:44) icannprocess.dead |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:45) more like running with the devil |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:45) ICANN 2000 - soundtrack available in stores now |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:45) icann.dance |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:45) <-- just got beck. lol |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:45) but you won't own the rights to it and it can be revoked |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:45) I've already ripped it and put it on napster |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:45) lol |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:45) what is happening next - and how long? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:45) visited that link ;0 |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:45) the RIAA is l watching |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:46) next are restricted content (kids/xxx), |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:46) who is doing the music? Is that Ben? or is the Hotel doing that? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:46) Next set of applicants joe, dunno which section. too busy trying to get a wave going |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:46) it's bens music |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:46) must be Ben. this is not elevator music |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:46) then restricted commercial, special-purpose, new services |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:47) Dawson: why do you think IOD's .web should be added to the legacy root? |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:47) i wonder if they are paying copyright on it for public tx...hmmm |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:47) Play the grateful dead |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:47) i think the best provider of services for kids would be the same provider who do the sex tlds - after all if you know where the perverts are - it makes it easier to keep the kids clean |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:48) I think that they were the first to request it... they were granted their request and then the US Gov. revoked the request |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:48) I can understand the glut of white US males at the physical meeting, but why do you think this discussion seems to have no multiligual and multicultural participation? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:48) They have more of a legitimate right to it than anyone else and they would offer NSI some serious competition |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:49) us gov? no... postel denied the request had ever existed |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:49) why .web...why not just use .nu? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:49) I think if you were interested enough you would search out this discussion |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:49) I have a .nu already |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:49) because .web has consensus and .nu doesn't |
| <AndrewMoulden> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:50) exactly |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:50) But it would help if you spoke english |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:50) Perhaps it is a sign of how irrelevant this is (and will increasingly be seen to be) |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:50) Re i18nized domain names - aren't they actually going to be the "split root" everyone is so afraid of? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:51) Does anyone deny that IOD was the first to request the .web TLD? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:51) I have a .web.id nobody believes me! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:51) Right after they asked for it.. suddenly everyone else wanted it too |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:52) Andrew what did Postel deny? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:53) I wish I could have made it to CA for this |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:53) Stan wht do you have against .web? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:53) Please can the next ICANN meeting be in Blackpool? |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:54) Interesting too that 50% (one of two) of Comments ticked (read out) this morning was against the Japanes directors (and how convenient to have someone from Japan to raise it) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:54) haha, and free rock for all |
| <AlexanderSvensson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:54) Is Melbourne close enough, Leon? |
| <OscarCisneros> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:54) Hi Folks! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:54) hi |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:54) Nothing..but I don't like the whole pre reg-deal... I just think better ones could come out before .web. |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:54) Rock on |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:54) Only with a rocket |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:54) Oscar, good coverage. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:55) Well Stan, IOD was operating .web, because IANA/Postel told IOD to go ahead and to charge, 3 years before ICANN was formed. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:55) Richard: yep..I have read all this |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:55) probably true Stan...but I think we should give credit where credit is do and reward the legacy operators for their pioneering 5 yrs. worth of effort |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:55) No make it Blackpool and ICANN should thow in the chips |
| <OscarCisneros> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:55) Thanks. Can you see me online? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:55) then we can introduce thousands more... just ask Paul Garrin |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:55) I can see you right here Oscar |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:55) What, are you there waving? |
| <OscarCisneros> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:56) Just now yes |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:56) you can get chips anywhere, but blackpool rock? (well, ok, I can ge that loclaly here but that's probably an exceptional case) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:56) blackpool would be a nie place forit |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:56) waive again |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:56) i'm on tv ! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:56) wow!! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:56) l33t |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:56) was that you kendall |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:56) lol |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:56) According to recent news reports, Latin American participation is growing rapidly (as is other non-english-speaking aprticiaptaion) but you'd harlyly knowit from this slice of attendees) |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:56) no...I'm in Massachusetts |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:56) Yes, Blackpool.rock |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) ding ding ding |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) hi |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) Oscar, there's a sign taped on your back |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) says" kick me" |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) lol |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) go put it on Ken Stubbs |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) Yeah..someone with a bell.. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) that will bring people in |
| <miKe> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) have iod already presented? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) Cow: did you give them your bell? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) yes |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) Someone belled the esther |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) lol |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:57) cow: r u wearing your bell? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:58) the .gov is there? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:58) how in the bell are you? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:58) Does someone have a synopsis of what that last guy said, the one who didn't use his time "properly"? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:58) Public!! yeah! do they take comments from CHAT? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:58) wooooooh |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:58) he ripped on ICANN for not offering them more time Judith |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:59) yes! public comments |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:59) they will seem very long... |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:59) he also lambasted them for a cursory review of the apps |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:59) .kid's haha |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:59) J: That the process was flawed. That he knew the board was pressed for time, but he didn't think there was due process. |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:59) Good job on the forums greg. |
| <miKe> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:59) How was the .web presentations? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:59) What did I miss? my server went screwey. dialtone, busy signal and beep beep at same time |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:59) The .tv guy, right? |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:59) yes, he argued due process over expediency |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:59) he also mentioned that their process was flawed and should be more scientific - need due process - he said that four or five times |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:59) What did I miss? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 18:59) Chris gave a good presentation Mike |
| <miKe> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:00) Great. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:00) he focused on the positive and didn't harp on the negatives |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:00) Ya, and they've got an app in for .pro too so mebbe he'll take 3 minutes more. :) |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:00) CORE member? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:01) nothing much Asher |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:01) Thanks Kendall |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:01) I want happy.kids |
| <miKe> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:01) hmm couldnt someone get xxx.kids then? |
| <miKe> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:01) lol |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:02) how do you stop the weirdos? pedophiles.kids? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:02) No kidding. |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:02) Stan Do you think the content of TrulySick.Com would be appropriate as TrulySick.Kids? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:02) haha Asher |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:02) Easy. NSI screens names with their volume. |
| <miKe> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:03) Are there transcripts of what was said earlier? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:03) where does the money come from? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:03) ; |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:03) I am amazed that these people paid so much to try and get .kids |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:03) First woman to present, yes? Is she ICM? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:03) the first female speaker |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:03) Kids will go next time, to Afilias |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:03) mike, all videos are archived - no transcripts as far as I know |
| <miKe> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:04) Ah alright. |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:04) Remember - kids frequently control their parents' spending, which may imply that advertising will be valuable. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:04) yeah, who want's their kids specifically identified as such. |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:04) dotkids Aimee Correnti |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:04) Is there anyone else on this chat NOT from the USA? |
| <miKe> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:04) Do you remember the timestamp for the .web presents? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:04) canada |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:04) caitlin@sexton.kids ? OHHHHHHHH no, I be not thinking so. Not by a long stretch |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:04) UK here |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:04) There was someone here earlier for Japan, it got late and he signed off. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:04) canada |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:05) British citizen though |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:05) I think that a separate domain that is safe for kids is is fine idea-- any thoughts? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:05) Thats 2 brits then |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:05) Ya, I'm for kids |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:05) as long as NSI isn't selling the names that is |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:06) Well... Partially. You didn't solve the suitable content problem with sophisticated rating. I somehow don't believe that just sticking a boolean label... |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:06) Hey! Gregory_K |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:06) Kendall, how would you suppose anyone could continually monitor content and assure public that it was, in fact, okay for kids |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:06) ... (i.e., the TLD) onto content will solve that problem. |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:06) Dang Telemarketers! |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:06) I'm back! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:06) have a complaint form |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:06) Also, how would you reconcile different cultural concepts of what is okay? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:06) Put your kid's computer next to your's, like mine's is. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:06) In minneapolils, mn the lutheran community has a product |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:06) the sites are rated by volunteers |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:07) mine too, judith |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:07) how about criminal penalties for offenders? |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:07) .KIDS is necessary for controlled access! ! ! |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:07) --- sorry -- and the okay sites are added to the okay list at the ISP |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:07) No one's business to decide what my kid sees etc., but me. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:07) you put smut in a .kids domain...you go to jail for being a pervert |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:07) No objection to dot kids but who will protect them from aggressive marketing from toy, music and suchlike companies? |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:07) All Perverts Must Go To Jail ! ! ! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:07) advantattel: bollocks! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:07) smut ... AIDS info? breast cancer info? STD info? |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:07) .kids a must !! |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:07) kendall: Won't work out. Compare bible belt and, say, advanced European countries. ,-> |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) parts of the world is ugly; it's up to me as a parent to guide my son, i am ultimately responsible |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) no advertising should be permitted at .kids (maybe) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) The CIA looked into this controlled access question in the 80's and concluded it could not be done |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) Will to work! Nothing to do with bible belt ! ! ! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) .xxx |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) this guy looks like he sells porn |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) kristy: Taht would kill most business models. |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) Yes, no ads on dot kids! |
| <NetFXMedia> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) He does. |
| <anon571> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) . |
| <NetFXMedia> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) haha |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) Ah, this is Palage's people. |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) Can Too Be Done If Controlled From The Beginning! ! ! |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) Marcia Well Said! |
| <anon571> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) guess I should have filled out the form |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) no smut, no ads, and maybe a parental controlled rating system? |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) dotkids proposes using the ICRA metatags labelling system-- webmasters label their own sites based on the icra matrix- |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) Er, weren't we arguing for a free market model? The market defines what .kids is. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:08) the only reason people voted .xxx #1 is because they thought it meant they were voting for sex sites |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) .xxx!!! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) Kendall, a complaint form is fine if you call yourself the arbiter of correct content for all cultures. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) Ah... speaking of smut... he is pretending that he is doing it for the kids.. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) is that a guess marcia? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) yes, richard |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) .xxx is better then .web |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) .kids is for greater parental control ! ! ! |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) sure Kendall - but who will take care of the parents if the childrena are busy with the computer? |
| <anon571> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) IOD won't be getting .web |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) Kendall Doesn't he want to Sell the .XXX ? |
| <LeonCoster> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) Protect our kids from corporate brainwashing, say no to ads on dot kids! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) Thank you for your opinion Stan, but I disagree |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) the adult industry people who testified atthe COPA commission did not want .xxx |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) IOD Will Too ! ! ! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:09) i dunno. i'm guessing too, but if you were to ask any porn operator if they would like to ba able to buy an xxx name my guess is they'd say yes |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:10) yest Asher |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:10) Sure and keep the smutt where it belongs ! ! ! |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:10) they said it would be too easy to filter out .xxx on the national level etc. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:10) Kendall, do you realize that showing a familiy at an American or European beach could be smut in some Arab countries? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:10) Jean, because (my opinion again) it was a first step towards regulation |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:10) Richard: the mainstream adult sites would, and that's an improvement |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:10) Give us parent's control ! ! ! .KIDS Y E S ! ! ! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:10) Kendall, or even to some people in the states? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:10) Kendall he isn't doing it FOR the Kids. He's doing it for the profit because it would sell! |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:10) NO they wanted regulation rather than XXX- read testimony at copacommission.org on Aug 3 |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:11) Advanta, I have control of my son. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:11) oh jason found a live one here |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:11) Whose cultural guidelines would you use? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:11) I think that parents need to be involved and determine their own standards.. but, a separate area is fine by me. I don't even have kids. What does it hurt? |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:11) I hope your control is in the right way ! ! ! |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:11) Looks like ICANN doesn't want IOD to get .web |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:11) Marcia: are you there live? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:11) Leah, then u set up a *.arabian.kids and filter out everything else |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:11) I know Asher... I was being sarcastic. |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:11) Josh >>> Not True ! ! ! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:11) No Stan. I will be next time, though. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) You didn't read ICANN's recent information about IOD on its website? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) what recent information josh? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) poor poor IOD |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) Hey Joshie! |
| <NetFXMedia> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) Josh, that was from Friday. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) i don't want this group to have .kids or .xxx |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) lol, enter Josh Bond. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) "adult content industry" ... ie: smut |
| <NetFXMedia> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) And if you read further it was an indipendent report. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) they also said the "pre-reg" stuff was bad. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) Yes, this guy is right on. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) http://www.icann.org/tlds/report/report-iiib1a-09nov00.htm |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) Kristy, how then, might some kids sites similar to a Sesame St site pay to maintain it? |
| <NetFXMedia> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:12) Stan, they never asked IOD to stop. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) porn is half th net. they end up subsidizing damn near everything really |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) Net: they warned the public not to do it |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) more than half I bet... |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) scroll down to: Note about Image Online Design |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) Leah - you mean the Lutheran's filter? |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) Stan, four years later. |
| <NetFXMedia> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) Josh, I have read it. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) ICANN *HAMMERS* webtld...says they are technically incompetent |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) heh |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) Josh, I believe most of us in this room are not only aware of the report, but have picked it apart with a fine-toothed comb. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) says they are former used car salesmen |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) Going There! Thanks >>> Josh ! ! ! |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) And Stan....there are blatant hoaxes out there. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) says they have a poor business model |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) where is that stated in the bylaws? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) Ok Let's do it the clean and Fair way. Pick a TLD that Nobody has pre-regged anything of.... like .MINE for all the Pssessive Witches out there! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) Josh |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) it wasn't ICANN |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) Cow, Monkey, Bond! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) Asher! |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:13) And Stan, Ken Stubbs issued that statement. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:14) It's a full house! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:14) Which parents, Kendall? Who decides if my kids can watch certain cartoons, or see a child in a bikini, or play with Teletubbies, even if they are purple? |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:14) He has a vested interest in denouncing IOD. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:14) Doesn't want to deal with pricing? Half of Touton's presentation was about pricing! |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:14) I guess for some of you, the money you spent is hindering your clear sight of the situation |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:14) but thats ok |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:14) Stan ya forgot Niber |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:14) [19:18] <MmmCow> wouldn't you be pissed if IOD get it? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:14) [19:18] <MmmCow> lol |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:14) [19:20] <Josh> nah i regged a bunch |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:14) [19:20] <Josh> so i'm covered either way lol |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:14) ahh yes..niber |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) hi stan |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) oops, sorry Josh |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) >>> Josh, I don't see nuttin (honey) new ! ! ! |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) I suppose they could donate money to the church group or use the service |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) finger slipped |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) hah |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) MmmCow, Monkeyman, Niber, Josh, and AsherTech |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) damn lost sound - |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) I don't know how it would work Leah.. I'm against censorship.. but, I see no harm in creating a separate area. It doesn't hurt me any. |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) lol cow! |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) i play both sides of the fence, but face reality |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) IOD isn't gonna get it |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) Is Too |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) Slippery slope, Ken. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) Shep got all my names in .web... |
| <NetFXMedia> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) Josh, its still up for grabs. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) ok |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) Josh, I am a Tucows reseller. I would benefit more by backing Afilias. But IOD, not Afilias or any other entity, deserve .web |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:15) Gary, who makes the decision about "arabian.kids? And who decides where the segration should be? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) no sunrise periods! |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) .kids R U L E S ! ! ! |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) I know they deserve it...no doubts there |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) just think Affilias is gonna strong arm the situation |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) 'nuff said |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) and win |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) Down with pre-regs! =] |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) they already have |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) despite the cow's objections |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) Parental Control ! ! ! Y E S ! ! ! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) The arabians presumably. If it isn't done properly they go back to com and it fails. Nothing ventured... |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) It's amazing. There are lots of problems which could be solved by clean hierarchies. Why not "*.arab.kids", "*.christian.kids", ...? |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) right, they already have |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) Put Porn Where it Belongs >>> XXX ! ! ! |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:16) But people are going for flat solutions, and trying to solve the problems induced by such solutions. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:17) .kids is one of the worst ideas ever dreamt up. would you label your own kids with a .kids domain so peple can tell right away they're kids? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:17) I don't object, I just find it ineteresting that the people the didn't register amd .wes with iod (or very few) are hoping IOD don't get it |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:17) so you can snipe 1000 thru afilias |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:17) Richard >>> Shame On You ! ! ! Open your eyes please ! ! ! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:17) No. But are you going to say that we can have 1000 tld's but not .kids? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:17) "any .webs" , i meanb |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:17) i did reg a bunch through .web though...but I'm just being realistic |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:17) what difference does it make Richard? So... I just never go to .kids.. big deal! |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:17) through IOD that is |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:17) not by your standards |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:17) actually Postel thought maybe 100,00+ TLDs... |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) josh....see |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) 100,000 |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) you want more |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) you see them as synonymous |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) and better |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) free for all .web reg'n would be better...kind of like the the multi-lang domains..so the koreans could get them all. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) ding! |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) .web = IOD |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) i just want your 18k to go to waste cow |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) Karl says 1mill |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) seems like it |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) lol |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) ;) |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) I want a world where all children can look for "graphics" and not get links to gay/lesbian sites ! ! ! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) haha |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) i won't stop anybody from delpoying .kids in fact IMC's .kids is already in the ORSC root zone I maintain but I think it's an egregiously bad ida dn would never put my kids into it - that's just my opinion |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) The koreans are going to take all the l33t .web's anyhow. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) true |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) josh: thats why youre so well loved... youre so kind ; ) |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) Josh, what a gentleman you are. |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) Class act. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) MmmCow, that's because they haven't been following the introduction process of new TLDs for very long. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) denise! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:18) Kedall, I'm playing devils advocate because I don't believe there is a way to control content in any TLD. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) I know Marcia |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) miss hotty herself |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) Your folks raised a quality individual. |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) josh! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) I agree with you Leah |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) Hotty? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) You may be able to control the first use of the name, but if there are hundreds of thousands, you could never keep up with it. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) yeah, she's cyber niber, everyone knows that |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) I don't have kids... but, if someone wants a .kids TLD... why not? |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) Yes There Is A Way To Control Content >>> Right From The Start Of Name Registration |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) and you're Joshy Pooh. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) to us, anyway :) |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) I want a .monkey |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) right |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) Stan, that entity began selling .webs after IOD, so first rights come into play. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) Pooh |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:19) The issue isn't whether .kids is good or bad, it is whether ICANN should micromanage to this degree. I say NYET! |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:20) Ok, i'm done being an asshole for tonight |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:20) can i get a .69? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:20) lol |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:20) heheh |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:20) ICANN Micromanage! How about the registrars ! ! ! .kids R U L E S ! ! ! |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:20) Josh, I am sure you will be back tomorrow to resume. |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:20) oh josh- how, disappointing |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:20) I'm surprised no one asked for .foo |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:20) most kids i know wouldn't be seen dead at a .kids...its not cool |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:20) Hi WorldThoughts :_ |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:20) i didn't say i was leaving...just that i'm gonna be kind for a while |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:20) _r, then you are discriminating and forcing people in categories. There are subjects that are fine in most places, but would be seriously restricted in others. You can't control it. |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:20) Hi Cow |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:21) .web is just as silly as .dot |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:21) love your comments on the public forum |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:21) I think that thousands of TLDs should be introduced.. we have thousands of phone numbers does anyone get confused? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:21) silly me I don't see kids as guinea pigs. Nor can kids do e-commerce because the laws say you have to be 18 |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:21) Then What's So Cool About P O R N ! ! ! .kids R U L E S ! ! ! |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:21) leah: Maybe. But in this case that entire .kids idea is bogus, except as a marketing channel reaching children and (possibly even more) ... |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:21) richard, its impossible to police - i know kids with a thriving ebay business |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:21) they don't call it "the Dot", Monkey |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:21) Advanta: your right Happy.kids sounds better then happy.xxx |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:21) Thanks. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:21) they call it "The Web" |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:21) Leah, the idea is that it is inclusive, not exclusive, both .kids and .xxx. If the market supports it, fine. If not, oh well. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:21) sdffsda |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:22) hehe |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:22) ... worrying parents - and giving them a good feeling that everything is right when it isn't. Oh well... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:22) porn is not cool or not-cool. it just is. and acounts for half the net thus driving massive expansion |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:22) they got that from the "www" at the front |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:22) I have yet to hear a compelling reason why kids is a good idea - just rhetoric |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:22) so world wide web.domain.web |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:22) who is this guy and what is he saying? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:22) Judith: who knows... |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:22) What about .biz? and biz.com... |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:22) - so should they then censor the commerce sites from kids as well as sexual sites - what about medical? |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:22) the Ts and Cs for a .kids could include no ads or at least adhering to the CARU guidelines |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:22) Neither kids nor xxx would force com etc. content to be there. It is an option. |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:22) banking association from Monaco. Some finance-only TLD. |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:23) how about just a .noads..... |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:23) Not True >>> _r Regulation On Registrations ! ! ! Y E S ! ! ! .kids R U L E S ! ! ! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:23) long live .biz.com subdomains! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:23) Monaco? He sounds German. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:23) lol stan |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:23) Richard rather than ask why.. shouldn't we just say "why not" ? Does it hurt anything? No one will force you to go there. |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:23) Judith: Naaaah. German accent sounds different (I know ,-). He's got a strong French accent, which matches Monaco. |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:23) definitely french accent |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:23) i don't believe you can protect kids from the bad things in the world...i vote for .xxx rather than .kids...to sideline it |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) what about .anit-porn |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) Out comes the cane |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) so you'd think the sex sites would give up their .com's for .xxx's? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) Joe, your sound quality must be better than mine. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) er.. anti-porn |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) I Vote for boath >>> J O A N |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) so .noads would get lots of traffic... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) you can impose a regulation at the time of registrationm but not after. You have no way of controlling it then. Peole can delegate donkysex.payground.kids and if you take a week to notice it and shut it down anotehr could pop up in it's place. It's patently unworkable |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) but it may not be fre |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) they should approve them both-- it's like saying approve tonga but not tuvalu |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) josh, yes i think they would |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) Richard: can I get that domain? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) why did dyson ask now if he withdrawing his bid? |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) sex.com would give up all those hits every day? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) no way |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) exactly |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) Yes You Have Control >>> J O S H Through the entire process ! ! ! .kids R U L E S ! ! ! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) I agree Richard. So then it fails. So what? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:24) carrot ... don't believe the hype |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:25) Is the Scribe working for anyone? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:25) .law...what's the port of .law? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:25) point.. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:25) how do you have control tel |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:25) scribe only writes down q&a |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:25) So, JEAN, you are saying no commercial sites on .kids? |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:25) scribe stuck at v.1 |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:25) well it doesnt matter whether they do or dont. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:25) r not for me at present |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:25) so you would force sex.com to move to sex.xxx? how would that work? |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:25) no, I was saying that that could be part of the terms and conditions |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:26) "risk adverse" I like that |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:26) Applicants cannot sell .kids domains ! ! ! and must adhere to contractural prose by registrars ! ! ! |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:26) absolutely not..i am not for forcing anybody to do anything |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:26) Is her head working? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:26) bad.kids !! |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:26) i would just know that .xxx was a place where my kids shouldnt go |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:26) Opps... .kids R U L E S ! ! ! |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:26) no sex.come would probably mirror at xxx, I'd guess |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:26) tel: if you have 100,000 domains delegated how are you going to check to see if any of them have delegated subdomains huh? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:26) You don't force any sex.com to move to sex.xxx. It is voluntary. Some would move, that is an improvement. |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:26) with .com, i dont know...so nothing would change |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:27) I prefer to leave all options open to my son, and through my teaching and guidance, hope he'll make wise choices |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:27) vint made that oint well... |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:27) that is... |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:27) I think that a domain like that will police itself... why not give them a shot? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:27) apples to apples? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:27) Marcia same here! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:27) Can't you parse for subdomains Richard? |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:27) A few would move, most wouldn't...basically, all you did was double the sex orientated namespace |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:27) Easy ! Regulation, Regulation, Regulation ! ! ! .kids R U L E S ! ! ! It Can Be Done ! ! ! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:27) .apples? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:27) .xxx = even more sex sites! |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:27) right |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) they'd just grab their names in .xxx |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) more evil sites to burn the eyes of our children! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) you didn't answer my question tel |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) hahah |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) Marcia and if that didn't work, I'd make sure my kid didn't have a modem in her computer! |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) josh...you forget there are many new xxx sites to come...at least they would have their own space...like top level at the bookstore |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) these new tlds can't control the already existing ones |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) asher :) |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) who's timing this guy? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) all book stores need to be at .bookstore |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) so its not about reducing the number of sex sites, or even making them move to .xxx...its about making sure new sex sites have namespace? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) What's that Ding? |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) It's not about freedom of speech ! ! ! .kids R U L E S ! ! ! IOD R U L E S too ! ! ! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) Ya, forget ghettoizing kids and xxx, let's lock up the lawyers |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) you cannot protect kids unless you lock them up 24/7 |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:28) uh, guys, dns is not a directiory system. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:29) sure lock up all the lawyers... except mine |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:29) right on Richard! |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:29) Joanna just don't put a modem in their computer! |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:29) N o t true >>> Joann! ! ! |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:29) yes josh, exactly...it encourages responsibility |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:29) Richard: "Members of the bar association are only permitted to register .law domains" |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:29) enough of the .kids R U L E comments... you won't change any minds with it |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:29) Advanta, so .kids is online, say.... and you find it cannot be controlled. Parents all over the world are sueing you because you said it would be proper for kids... |
| <_r> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:29) That's precisely the kind of thinking which is popular in that community. |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:29) whats not true advanta? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:29) I can't wait! I want web.web |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:29) web.web will be the best domain ever |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) guess who got it Stan? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) Do you get the impression that Cerf didn't read the boiletplate blank application and its questions? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) ok, can you delegate web.web.web to me then? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) Stan I still like .QUACK |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) ding is the 3 min timer |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) Richard, Mockapetris called it a directory system |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) .squatter |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) who got it Kendall? |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) Y e s I will if i have to stand before the us congress to do it ! ! ! .kids R U L E S ! ! ! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) IOD I think... |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) no IOD does not own it |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) Richard, let me have alt.web.web.web |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) ;-) |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) but you're spamming the chat room AdvantaTel |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:30) Joe thanks... my system makes a Ding when I get PMmed to and I keep looking for open window |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) I hope the pre-regs are tossed out so I can get web.web and happy.web |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) hehe |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) good point! |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) Not True ! Spamming! Just Bringing Conciousness to .kids ! ! ! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) Gary last time I talked to him he said it could be used for a directory system within a specific applicatuin but in general it is not. It is a hierarchical distributed database used primarily for mapping names to addresses |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) Stan, you wouldnt have a chance. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) then I can do web.web.web.web subdomains |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) .. |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) .. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) why World??? |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) Stan, you been smoking? |
| <simp> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) hello |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) why not a chance?? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) yes he would |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) hi simp |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) tel if you answer my question you might convince me but saying over and over it R U L E S is convincing nobody |
| <anon565> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) got mr.web |
| <anon565> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) =) |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) stan is a fast clicker |
| <WorldThoughts> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) you and 5 million other computer technies....trying to get the same ones. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) he practices his clicks a lot |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:31) Stan, it is a misnomer when you say pre-registration in .web. All names are registered, not pre-registered |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:32) I click very fast! |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:32) Besides you may rest now ! ! ! Wife called me to dinner ! ! ! .kids R U L E S ! ! ! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:32) there are 20 people that do it well. Stan is one |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:32) thank your wife for us tel |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:32) I Will ! ! ! |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:32) where are they registered leah? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:32) what all names are registered?? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:32) wtf? |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:32) this whole tld is a seal hunt. the only thing i've enjoyed today is Judiths unusual language. Thank god for some humans. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:32) Okay..I will register .haha domains right now. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:32) Stan, Afilias doesn't plan a first-come first serve. But a batch random choosing. |
| <anon565> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:32) hmm |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:32) Josh, they have been registered with IOD for four years |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:33) IOD is a an icann approved registry? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:33) So, Marcia.. who gets chosen? the richest people? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:33) i secondary the IOD web zone. I can tell you what web names have been registered if you like |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:33) How about .INN and then I don't wanna think about the kind of motel named 1SmoothRide.INN |
| <AdvantaTel> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:33) P.S. IoDesign R U L E S too ! ! ! OK I'm going now ! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:33) Josh, one does not have to be ICANN accredited to have a registry |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:33) "and one of the few industries than can kill you" |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:33) so if they are not an icann approved registry, then by definition, they are not registered |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:33) yes! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:33) no josh. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:34) So, Stan, if Afilias is [erroneously] awarded .web, and 5000 people in one day try to get a good domain name like you mentioned, your chances are 1:5000. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:34) Josh, that premise is basic to ICANN's existence. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:34) they are quite definiely registed and quite defineily resolve albeit not globally |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:34) Marcia: that's better then pre-regs |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:34) ding! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:34) There are only registrations at IOD |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:34) Using that logic, I am the owner of sex.squatter and all the other names I register in the tld i just made up |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:34) cool |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:34) no pre-reg. Please research. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:34) Josh, you are making a great leap here. ICANN is not the owner of the internet, nor is it a governing body. It is simply the manager of a rootzone |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:34) <---- Totally opposed to anything with Pre-Regs! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) richard@ns1.vrx.net Wed Nov 15 19:45:18 ~ |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) % nslookup -q=mx tangled.web |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) Server: ns1.vrx.net |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) Address: 199.166.24.1 |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) tangled.web preference = 5, mail exchanger = ns1.vrx.net |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) tangled.web nameserver = ns1.vrx.net |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) tangled.web nameserver = ns2.vrx.net |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) tangled.web nameserver = ns3.vrx.net |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) ns1.vrx.net internet address = 216.13.76.2 |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) ns1.vrx.net internet address = 199.166.24.1 |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) ns2.vrx.net internet address = 205.189.73.102 |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) ns3.vrx.net internet address = 199.166.24.3 |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) richa |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) ICANN doesn't own the internet...Al Gore does.. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) if they don't put your tld into the rootzone, it doesn't exist on the internet |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) I thought he invented it! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) You're wrong Josh, it just isn't as widespread |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) no stan he just invented it |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) Josh, my computer isn't tied into ICANN's root, yet here I am. |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) no Josh... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) Not true, Josh. Point to another rootzone and see hundreds of TLDs |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) that is not technical correct josh |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) not technically but in all practicallity it is |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:35) yes...they have l33t undernet type rootzones |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:36) Stan: huh? |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:36) you can hax0r your network settings, but the average person doesn't have the skills to do that |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:36) Josh, my computer does not point to the ICANN root either, and I am here |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:36) like .earth |
| <simp> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:36) .co |
| <simp> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:36) that's a good one |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:36) Leah, try getting your .web to work on the internet without icann putting it into the root registry |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:36) Josh, if you would like to email me, I'd be happy to point you to references to learn more about these issues. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:36) what is a 133t undernet? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:36) .co is cctld for columbia, and/or cocaine |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) there are a lot of people who are considering alternative roots - and this meeting could change minds |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) Josh, anyone can do it in less than a minute |
| <simp> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) yup |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) Josh, it works, ok? I get mail to my .web addres from lots of peolpe eveyr day. k? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) I just know that this is gonna cost me more money... my WhoIs already does 43 Country zones and 248 TLDs |
| <simp> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) or company |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) you do it when you sign up with an ISP |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) this travel tld looks lke a pretty good idea actually |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) Josh, I truly cannot program my VCR, or even my microwave. I'm no techie, but I followed instructions, I think, on Baptista's site, and it took about three seconds. Easier than figuring out my MS Outlook (which I've still not really mastered.) |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) I also have a .web address Josh |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) every time |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) I can't connected to tangled.web |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) 133t is "Leet" in hackerspeak..and undernet is an IRC network |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) do you want to Stan? |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:37) give me a .web address I can type into my browser that will work right now with no technical modficiations to my computer |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:38) It's interesting Richard. More micromanaging. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:38) Kendall, I know that undernet is IRC, but what does it have to do with domain names and tlds? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:38) you know there aren't any Josh. and you know that. Can you answer my question please? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:38) Leah..nothing..I was just saying it's a type of "underground" rootserver |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:38) Ahhh, so you DO need icann to put it in the rootservers for it work properly |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:38) ok |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:38) STan, nothing underground about it. It's just another rootzone |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:38) thanks for admitting that rich |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:39) Josh, it works just fine |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:39) he was just saying that there are underground alternative roots I thing |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:39) Josh, think of it like MS broswer vs. Netscape browser. Sometimes one works better, sometimes the other (although ICANN's root is limited while the other root is all inclusive.) |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:39) Okay okay..just one that's not used by many people...or many isps. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:39) doesn't need ICANN |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:39) I would not say woprk properly. It works properly now. To resolve globally? yes. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:39) really, give me a .web domain that i can type into my browser right now, with no technical modifications to my computer |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:39) Josh, you're not using the same browser you were using 5 years ago are you? No, you update for the evolving internet. Modifications are an aside; nothing major. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:39) is there an echo in here? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:39) Josh, its your computer that isn't configured to your best advantage. Don't you get that? |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:39) so you cannot give me one that will work on the same browser I use to access all other sites? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:39) I still use lynx!! down with GUI! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) Josh if yo uare using legay dns then no, .web is invisble to you. SO what? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) Josh, why isn't your computer up to date, with the most available options? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) Josh, upgrade your settings and you can access the whole net. |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) Josh, here's some explanation: http://www.workz.com/content/1678.asp |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) STan, lynx works fine. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) legacy |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) i use lynx to |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) It is the same thing I used 5 years ago |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) 99% of people on the Internet cannot access your underground root servers |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) lol |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) think of .web as ftp back when most of use only had uucp connections |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) Wanna bet? My notebook still has Windows 3.1 on it! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) Josh, anyone can if they choose to |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:40) Lots of people are still ghetto'ed in AOL too. They'll learn. |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) Josh I believe that you are being deliberately obtuse on this point, and that you know very well what the current situation is. You're not fooling anyone. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) exactly lonny |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) agreed lonny |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) thank u, lonny |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) Asher, it's just as easy with 3.1 |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) Ben, if there was meant to be a link for .pro, it's not there |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) the only reason that there is "one" root that everyone uses is because thats what we aggreed upon. That could change at anytime. |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) i'm making the point that 99% of peopel cannot see .web unless its in the icann root servers |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) God, that's not Swerve is it? |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) i know the situation....i'm just hoping you'll see it too |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) can I connected to .god domains too |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) this is very well understood josh. so what? |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) why doesn't yahoo just create a TLD called .yahoo... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) they don't want one. we asked. |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) and just have their own TLD reg. system |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:41) thanks for conceding my point rich |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) i'm back - did i miss anything? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) they should Joe! |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) Josh, isn't that why IOD is here in the first place? Playing by the rules, giving ICANN $50,000 and going through the hoops? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) Judith: It should be a prerequisite for having an intelligent conversion. Question 1: Do you use AOL? The answer to that question will determine whether or not to proceed. :) |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) .yahoo - because there's no money in it... |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) kristy: yes- you were spared josh bond ; ) |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) lol |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) well lets all just start our own roots then...heck with ICANN |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) it was never an issue josh. the point is anybody that *wants* to see it *can* |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) lucky me! |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) it would put ICANN out of business, no? |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) Yes lonny |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) i agree |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) now you're talking |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:42) I think a lot of people are starting to think that way Stan |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:43) Yes, more and more every day Kendal |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:43) no $$ in it? are you kidding? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:43) I will have dot.dot then! |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:43) no $$ for yahoo or for ICANN? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:43) Lea My Main computer has 512 MB RAM and a Pr of 40 GB hard drives! but my notebook is old! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:43) Asher, so? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:43) We need an open source alternative to DNS and BIND that point to alternative roots instead and BOOM! we can see new TLDs |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:43) The BEST way to do this is not to use ANY root serevrs, but to primary the root zone for yourself. The YOU get to pick what domains you support |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:43) .. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:43) Many AOLers can be lead into the real world, but AOL has done a good job of ghetto-ization, and keeping people there. |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:44) Someone asked are we still using same thing as 5 yrs ago |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:44) No. How are Yahoo! going to make money out of .yahoo exactly?>? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:44) domains aren't for money!! |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:44) you could have any # of roots under .yahoo... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:44) there are no open source nameserver implementations. The best one is the up anc coming one writen by Dan Bernstein. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:44) Yahoo! is. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:44) IOD is! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:44) "roots under yahoo" huh? |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:44) they could create a TLD system that people could "trust" or at eleast like or prefer |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:44) well put Stan - they are for addressing...thats all! |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:44) sorry.. not roots |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:44) Yeah, Judith, it's the colorful snail packages. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:45) That would mean going up against ICANN. |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:45) so "www.mcdonanlds.com.yahoo" may actually mean something |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:45) No they are not Stan. From reports and posts I've read, they've continually scaled upwards. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:45) no, DNS is for MUCH MORE than addressing. it's a distributed database - the biggest one in the world that s far has pretty much only beed used for name to address translation |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:45) What do you guys think of Voice TLD's....I am working on a patent... |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:45) lower level domains is what I meant |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:46) I think that software patents suck. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:46) yep..voice domains..no good |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:46) Greg, I'd have to get my sound card working first ;) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:46) vouice domains? huh? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:46) I can see how that is possible Richard... but they are not for IPC lawyers! |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:46) Voice TLDs? Shout out a name? |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:46) :) |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:46) LOL |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:46) they could create a system that REALLY addressesthe needs and wants of the market |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:46) it would actually suck... |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) "addresses" LOL |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) so when you swear where would you go? @#$! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) the market wants .com2 not .web |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) but that kind of system seems to be what the market wants |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) not so Kendall. I know some IPC lawyers that have and use .web addresses and they work fione. Not all lawyers are jerks or cut from the same cloth |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) make sense? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) or .comcom |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) or .www |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) the market has to learn. Only in the last year has slashdot figured this out. It is a big task |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) so you can have www.domain.www |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) I can't explain how it work for obvious reasons...but any voice command you choose for a site will work (kind of like a favorite) |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) not all... but some of these guys feel that DNS is their own private advertising space |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) ok now who is afilias ? Didn't they have a restaurant chain? afilias fog? or something like that? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:47) It'll take a long time to replace or even come in line with .com |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:48) why not com.domain.www :-) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:48) just to mess poeple up :-) |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:48) .net never came in line with .com |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:48) hehe Richard |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:48) Asher, they don't serve anything, they just take your money |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:48) www.domain.ftp |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:48) Exactly. |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:48) If you think about it....why have the multilingual character domains...It defeats the purpose of us being able to communicate.. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:48) no I think affilias fog went around the world in 80 days or someting |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:48) J: think this is same guys as dottv |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:48) www.Domain.http |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:48) anything that isn't .com and a company..is seen as someone that missed the boat. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:49) Gregory, how can you say that? How would you feel about that statement if you were Chinese? |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:49) Whereas a natural voice TLD would authenticate a website and take you too it...no matter what language.. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:49) True. That even applies to ccTLDs |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:49) .tv is the best domain ever! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:49) wtf? |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:49) Stan Wrong... .Com is! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:49) I don't agree Stan. There are some good counter examples. I have a half dozen domains and none are com. Loko t www.mbz.org, killi.net lighting.faq |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:49) sarcasm? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:49) .tv sucks |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:49) No...I am FOR the chinese using a character they are familiar with, however it divides us...we need something to unite the internet |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:50) sex.tv can be registered immediately for $1,000,000.00/year |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:50) He's partner of the guy Dyson dissed? |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:50) stan put the pipe down. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:50) what a low price.. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:50) who is this gyt again? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:50) guy |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:50) I think he is the partner of the guy who was ripping on ICANN earlier |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:50) Greg, that's why we have translating software |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:50) jazzing.tv is $50... sex.tv is 1 million |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:50) He's p[artner of the guy who dissed esther. :) |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:50) Yes we do...but a voice TLD is kind of like that.. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:50) yes! |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) $3.50?registration? sounds good to me. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) trabslating software woh't help. If you get email in chiniese, your character set will prevent you from replying to it |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) I presume the AtLarge members are in the house? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) Why are domains $35 to begin with? |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) long live .com!!! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) I say $1 regs!! |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) Anyways..I don't want to get off the subject too much...I would just like to say, that IOD represents, a unity in the namespace... |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) Because they can get it. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) yes adam .. in the house |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) Here too, Adam. |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) I am bothered by countries leasing their two letter domain space to the highest bidder. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) domains aren't $35. They're $10 from dotster |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) Stan, who is supposed to pay to maintain the registry, personnel and equipement? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) Jean, why? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:51) yes adam |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:52) This is Internet! Long live free domains! |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:52) Cool. I thought ICANN might have asked them to stay outside, while we were all in here. *snigger*S |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:52) we can just go to other rootservers! |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:52) Kendall they aren't All $35... Go visit DomainNICnames.Com with free redirect, free URL forwarding, free transfers. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:52) I mean the NSI monopoly Richard |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:52) down with ICANN |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:52) free domains don't work. BTDT. |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:52) it's not the purpose of the twoletter code. It's a country's birthright. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:52) wsn |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:52) wasn't it $6 wholesale? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:52) And if that country decides its birthright is best operated by someone who brings revenue into the country ... ? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:52) NSI still makes $6 per domain name... and this is competition? |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:53) it robs its citizens. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:53) I paid $100 for a domain back in the day |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:53) they charge more becuase they have a higher quality of service. I know that sounds funny, but as bad as they are the rest are worse. Every try to call register.com or dotster or bulkdomains? |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:53) I read USA today, NSI is going to make a bundle on the Multilingual domains... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:53) Kendall, six dollars is not much really. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:53) What is the citizens prefer the money, to a domain name? Who are we to say? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:53) that's what if |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:53) .TD is topical, register now! It's the ccTLD for Chad. :) |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:53) It's 5:10 here in California right now. She said the public gets to speak tell about 6:00. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:53) yeah... but they are still making money Leah |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:53) yeah... |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:53) I call Dotster a lot. No problems |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:53) I think it's going to be like 8:00 |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) Hey Judith...I is your book doing...I saw it in a Borders bookstore the other day...Excellent!! |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) would you sell .us? How would we as citizens decides? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) what's this coOp stuff? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) really? I had zero luck. werid |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) NSI should n't be able to make a dime until they give up the full control of the registry |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) Judith, what did you write? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) Kendall/Judith - is there any truth in the rumour that ICANN are reducing the AtLarge down to 5 from 9? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) Kendall, why should a registry be non profit? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) damn if I know ... |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) Leah DomainNICnames also has an awesome Whois 43 Country Codes and 248 TLDs |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) 9 from 5 sorry |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) adam - yes. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) Damn them! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:54) coop in english is coop |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) Heye did you see my book in Borders? :-) |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) joe rockhead, lol |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) ICANN.has.been.coop/ted |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) That's not me, Gregory. The real book is written by Ellen Rony. There's another I saw recently, but was told its a high priced rippoff. |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) Jean what book? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) why even try to get a .coop? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) I haven't heard that yet adam.. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) Are the AtLarge directors trying to fight this? |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) oh.. |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) mmmcow... do you know who i am |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) chicken.coop |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) dns.vrx.net/whois does every tld. id there is a whois server, I point to it. I've release the whios client into the public domain |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) www.netmom.com |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) stan now wait a moinute chicken.coop would be ok |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) Gary I was just going to say that!! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) haha |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) chicken.coop |
| <VittorioBertola> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) don't know about the AtLarge directors, but sure there's some self-organization trial going on now |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) ummm, in real life? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) Read it in The Register Kendall |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) yep |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:55) no |
| <VittorioBertola> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:56) adam: see www.icannmembers.org |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:56) Richard, what is the best email address for you for how-to run non-icann-controlled addresses (if on rereading above dialog with Josh I still dont follow it)? |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:56) if you did, then you would REALLY laugh |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:56) Thanks |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:56) who? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:56) richard@vrx.net |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:56) "Net-mom Approved" |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:56) not tellin'... use your resources |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:56) that's me |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:56) thanks adam... I will |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:56) how did you find all of these sites? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:57) Sorry Kendall, I was using the past tense. But do. :) |
| <JEANPOLLY> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:57) read the about the yellow pages section for the selection policy |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:57) but you might be ok just by looking at http://www.open-rsc.org/setdns/ |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:57) is this the .union proposal (ie: Jamie Love's work?) |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:57) Yes |
| <JoeRockhead> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:57) yes ... .union |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:58) ". If I looked at eight or nine sub pages for each site, that works out to about 1.5 million Web pages I have personally inspected since 1996." |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:58) http://www.youcann.org |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:58) you-cant-hurt -me-im-part-of-the.union |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:58) I still want stubbs.sucks |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:58) I didn't think he'd have an answer! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:59) .php <--- for only php coded sites!! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:59) that would be cool |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:59) COOL! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:59) happy.php |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:59) how bout .perl ? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:59) heck.. .perl |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:59) .cgi |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:59) We already have .pl |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 19:59) lol |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:00) I have .cgi Stan |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:00) who's this guy? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:00) too geeky. that will make sites harder to remember not eassier. |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:00) who has .html? ;-P |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:00) .event - staff recomended it be refused |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:00) .EVENT, Judith |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:00) say I have a FAQ about ligting (I do), wht would I prefer lighting.php and not lighting.faq? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:00) I mean his name. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:00) .event ? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) sql!! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) dunno |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) yea, who is he? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) sql platform! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) l33t |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) .sql exists |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) there is no .html |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) Loren something |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) SQL platform V Unix platform? HellO? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) he seems anti TLD |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) I think |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) Does this guy even know what he is talking about? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) He's sweating! :) |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) wow..they have firewalls.. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) and SQL!! |
| <Blaise> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) sql as an os? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:01) BS. search engines do that (responding to current speaker) |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:02) Microsoft puppet |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:02) this guy is just using key words. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:02) I want non.event |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:02) and trying to sound cool |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:02) you have it Richard :) |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:02) web.event |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:02) He's really slamming staff |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:02) hehe, good for you Dena |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:02) I'll put this guys picture up then |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:02) Tell ya what Stan |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:02) yeah Dena??? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:02) this guy is bitchin because his proposal got turned down? |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:02) it's available ;) |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:03) heh |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:03) hahaha |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:03) Hey Stan, want no.biz? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:03) Vint Cerf: "events are things that sort of happen" |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:03) I want monkey.biz |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:03) He should, it shouldn't have been rejected early on. Whadya think olympics.event would be worth? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:03) huh? WTF is an SQL platform not a UNIX platform? |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:03) richard: that guy was on crack. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:03) I think it's available, Stan. http://www.biztld.net |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:03) Gary his application seemed really technically week |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:03) weak I mean |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:04) oh, ok, phew, I thought I was unaware of some other OS besdies unix. |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:04) one of the apps (this one?) used kerberos as a selling point. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:04) Here's a question for ya - this guy gets turned down, but some other registry gets assigned .event ... this guy has recourse? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:04) Do you all realize that the more frivilous posts, the less these chat sessions will be taken seriously now and in the future? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:04) .museum -- I don't think anyone opposes these guys |
| <Blaise> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:04) sql is a language that works on many platforms. he seemed to say they had some sort of sql os... |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:04) That may be, it still shouldn't have been turned down by staff. Nothing should have been turned down by staff, they're not impartial. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:04) Marcia, they've been ignored since the beginning. Believe me. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:05) .museum would be very good! |
| <anon564> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:05) Someone tripped over the cord at the ISP |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:05) Hmm, super.bowl or superbowl.event |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:05) LAME |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:05) Better then .web |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:05) Judith, .EVENT is taken |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:05) .museum should make it |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:05) i dunno, as a short very flexible word, there are all sorts of creative domains you can make up from .web |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:05) They're still a matter of record. And if the record shows substance and provokes further thought, they'd be read and cited.. if not by ICANN then by media. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:05) wax.museum |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:05) not so event |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:06) Gotcha Leah. But plug any example of a tld that was suggested today - its not granted to the applicant, but given to another registry ... that's the question. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:06) tangled.web, tholian.web etc etc etc |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:06) I don't think that anyone can sue if they don't get it. Paul Garrin tried suing NSI and lost because they were protected by the government |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:06) What if the .com .net .org and .web are taken!! then what do I do? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:06) Judith, then they would be in the same position as .WEB, go to court |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:07) No, .web is a working business. The suggested TLD is at best intent to use. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:07) ask him one Esther |
| <anon564> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:07) Ken I didn't see as my ISP hiccupped and I was bounced twice |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:07) good questions from Vint |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:07) Judith, I don't know, but would hope that the claim would be considered as a prior use claim and stick. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:08) Can people take .web domains to the WIPO right now?? |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:08) here here Leah |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:08) No. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:08) bankrolled by J.P. Getty |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:08) Lonny, that's a TLD in the ORSC rootzone also (.HERE) I have a website at youcann.here |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:08) :) |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:08) Not using the UDRP anyway. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:08) Is vint just thinking this up? That's scary. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:08) Vint's on a roll today |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:08) And lots of people saw the need for additional gTLDs. But very few did anything about it. IOD took definitive action while others just sat around talking about it. They've worked toward .web in the A-root for years, and they deserve it. Period. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:09) Vint's a clever guy. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:09) I'm joking. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:09) This lady is a b! |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:09) I wasn't. :) |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:09) who is this lady? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:09) If you have to ask, you're in the wrong room |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:09) I support IOD.. don' t get me wrong. But, I don't think that you get recourse if you lose.. ICANN is above the law |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:09) Chair of the BoD until tomorrow |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:10) ICANN is NOT above the law |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:10) ICANN is the law!! |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:10) it's a CA corporation |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:10) Esther is nicely saying shutup |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:10) ICANN is outlaw. |
| <anon564> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:10) Audio went out |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:10) Now, Kendall, I know you're being sarcastic. It's hard to tell tone with just words...;) |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:11) about which topic Marica? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:11) sorry.. Marcia |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:11) Someone tell ICANN to open up a.com |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:11) I want t.com |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:11) Was that a stab at the founding members by the .museum guy? Or did I miss something? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:11) i have a "public comment" about single letter domains pending. I typed it in hours ago. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:11) Nice Richard |
| <anon564> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:11) In English Please! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:11) I think he is giving them some hell adam |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:12) No, they asked him about founding members removing themselves, cheeky! |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:12) also..why no "f*ck.com" |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:12) I missed it earlier on - did I miss anything interesting? Sorry now. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:13) What's the gist Richard. They're reserved except for q, x, z, no? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:13) I'm having difficulty understanding here - what are .air proposing? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:13) this is for .air? |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:13) Lonny are you going to talk when they let the public talk? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:13) sounds like its for the air transportation industry. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:13) I am really surprised that Microsoft or AOL are not invovled in trying to get a TLD |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:13) I think f*ck.com is tied up in litigation. It did exist a few years ago and there are lots of other domains with f*ck in them |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:13) In the news: |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:13) http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/001115/ca_snapnam.html |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:14) noisy.air |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:14) http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20001115/tc/internet_names_6.html |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:14) yeah, it's under litigation: http://dns.vrx.net/sys/whois?fuck.com |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:14) Esther's got hot.air |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:14) http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20001115/tc/icann_let_the_domain_begging_begin_1.html |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:14) "Let the begging begin" |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:15) Ok ok, enough with the URLs. The person earlier on had a point... |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:15) go.postal |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:15) Sorry I'm bored |
| <JoshBond> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:15) when is ICANN supposed to announce its decisions on the new tlds? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:16) pretty stupid idea simon. they tell you if your domain stops working? How? by email? Think about it. |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:16) Lots of articles here: |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:16) http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news?p=icann&c=&n=50 |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:16) I'll stop there |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:16) maybe as soon as tomorrow josh. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:16) tentatively tomorrow, Josh, to my understanding |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:16) It's on the ICANN website. (OpenSRS mode) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:16) hey, if one of my domains stops working my phone starts ringing within minutes |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:16) Tomorrow, though I've got a court Declaration of Touton's that says otherwise. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:16) NSI, CORE, Afilias, and Ken Stubbs win.... just wait |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:16) It's the government Richard |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:16) No monopoly on common sense |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:16) "Universal Postal Union"? |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:17) Sorry guys, I'm late... how's it going on so far? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:17) I'm sorry, I just don't belive that. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:17) If that happens Kendall, ICANN will lose. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:17) I think the deal is they decide tomorrow, but they probably won't announce tomorrow. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:17) I agree Marcia |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:17) ICANN should stop thinking expanding its "technical" duties and start thinking about survival |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:18) I think the staff has chosen and will tell the board tomorrow what to say/do. |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:18) They have said that they will announce who they will begin to negotiate with tomorrow |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:18) Many are disillusioned already... but it will make their sham known to the public |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:18) So you get post.ie, post.co.uk. Good point Vint. |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:18) Where is that Touton court declaration, Judith? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:18) Agreed Judith, but dunno if they'll announce |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:18) what area code is 816? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:18) yes... it could |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:19) Vint is right on... |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:19) On my desk. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:19) Missouri.. |
| <StanTobiason> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:19) hmm |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:19) lol |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:19) Yes Stan, in Missouri too. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:19) 816 - Kansas City Missouri |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:19) No he isn't. The guy is saying that if you have your own tld you can restrict it, you can't restrict each country code |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:20) Press release from .TV about the comments we saw earlier: |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:20) Is it also on web or can you scan it off your desk or precis it? |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:20) http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/001115/ca_dottv_i.html |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:20) Couldn't CENTR handle that? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:20) but, the postal service doesn't really need a .post does it? How does it help us? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:20) And Esther still doesn't get it |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:20) Boy, they're fast. |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:21) Scoop for ICB ;-) |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:21) Does Touton categorically say wont happen and what is the date? Is it in Regland case? |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:21) who's this guy speakin'? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:22) how so? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:23) he is advocating a .post TLD for world postal organizations |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:23) Touton says ICANN cannot and has no legal authority to assign TLD's... no, its his declaration in the ESI case. |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:24) ICANN makes recommendations to DoC |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:24) Dr. WHO |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:24) Interesting if you could pitch DoC directly |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:24) I wish that Ambler and IOD got half as much time as some of these guys. This is the longest 3 minutes ever |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:24) *literallyI* over ICANN's dead body. |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:25) 3 minutes only is for presentation - questions can take as long as the board wants |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:25) pitching DoC directly makes sense |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:25) thanks kendall. ^^ |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:25) and DoC is probably more accessible that ICANN! |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:26) perhaps.. hmm |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:26) too bad they didn't ask more questions of IOD and the .web proposal... they just brushed over it quick, yet they drill the .post guy for 5 minutes? |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:26) you know, you are probably right, Marcia |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:26) who are these guys |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:26) har |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:26) What time is the meeting over tonight? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:26) WHO wants to monitor content because we are too stupid to judge info for ourselves. |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:26) all is supposed to be done at 6pm |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:26) Kendall, they don't want attention brought to IOD |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:26) oh, ISOC. oh joy |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:26) she is requesting a .who TLD |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:26) 7:00, she said |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:26) 6 pm? it's 8:35 |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) PST, ash |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) The meeting will be running late this evening to allow for public comment. It is hard to say the exact time it will end. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) lol |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) so, there's not much chance for IOD? |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) .health not .who |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) This is WHO, they want .health, look on the good side, it could be the AMA |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) we dont know Steve |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) 6pm PST |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) Steve, probably not much |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) Cow 6 or 7? PST? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) 7:00 |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) The public supports IOD.. but the ICANN board members support NSI |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) Steve, nothing is decided yet |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) they are having a public comment period |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) did they discuss that part at all anyway(before I join here)?? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) Esther said at LEAST 'ill 7 |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) http://bad.health http://smoking.health http://sexual.health |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:27) don't kid yourself, Marcia |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:28) icann are contractually obligated to protect nsi |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:28) to prevent harm to nsi by competition |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:28) insicknessandin.health |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:28) Well I'll mis a lot as I'm gonna have to leave and read my 3 yr old a bed time story. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:28) they are? how simon |
| <Jeffreyskimming> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:28) I think the board is struggling to find a purpose for any non-general TLD. Secondary TLDs often fulfull their purpose. |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:28) http://national.health (a really good progressive rock band from the 70's) |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:28) let me find the url |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:28) simon...anyway you can point me to such info? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:28) I'm not Leah, I'm just choosing to be optomistic and believe in the good of other human beings |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:28) is Vint Cerf the 'official interrogator' ? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:29) Ya |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:29) It would be nice, Marcia, to thing all was fair... |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:29) harmful.to.your.health |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:29) sort of. he's one of two board members that understnds how the net works. ken is the other |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:29) He's one of very few on the board I would respect. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:29) They say things fall on deaf ears, when you talk to ICANN. He's just making that literal. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:29) yes |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:29) I support thousands of new restricted and non-restricted TLDs why not give .who one as well? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:30) I like Vint... he's cool...and he has a clue. |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:30) kendall, they want "stability" in Internet...(wonder what that really is) |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:30) my yes was to Leah |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:30) "Vint ... has a clue." :) Understatement of the year! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:30) to them stability = status quo = NSI |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:30) there are some very bad things about cerf |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:30) Sorry, big fan. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:31) like what Richard ? MCI ? |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:31) yup.. yup..probably. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:31) Well, there is that... |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:31) herbs? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:31) I wonder if a .who TLD will cut down on the Viagra spam that I get? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:32) I'm amazed nobody submitted a single letter TDL. Or was that disallowed? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:32) someone submitted .i |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:32) ,i |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:32) the .i people opted to .iii |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:32) Oh. Sorry, didn't see that one. Y? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:32) What was it for I mean? |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:33) individual |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:33) this is .one? there is an ICANN board member on this board? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:33) i have been told by somebody that knows him well they he is in ibms pocket. IBM is supposed to have spent two years of their $60M a year washington lobbying budget to prevent new tlds by getting the icann they want. vint has knwn this and has been going along with this for 2 yars |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:33) Ah. Thanks Lonny. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:33) I read something like that on Cooks Internet report |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:33) ibm wants no new tlds to protect their intellectual property - trademarks |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:34) Not surprising. |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:34) I'm not too sure .one's position is pursuasive enough.. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:34) but, does Vint do it on purpose or his he just a tool? I think he means well. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:34) boy that's an understatement steve |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:34) hell, hitlet meant well |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:35) I want to connect my palm to my refrigerator |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:35) To be fair, being "told by someone" doesn't count for a whole lot. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:35) can't you just picture all these presenters practicing with stop watches? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:35) it's his methods that are in question |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:35) ding |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:35) hahaha.. good one, kendall. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:35) Someone told me the other day the world was flat. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:35) I come from the land of "consider the source." So consider the source, and then what you think of his judgement. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:35) depends opn whose doing the telling. i trust this person more than i trust anybody on the net |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:35) 900 million and 1 |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:35) and he is from vints time and group of friends. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:36) I've no reason to distrust Sexton either. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:36) see also bob metcalks criticism of vint from a couple of years ago |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:36) That's cool for you Richard, but it's useless to us - you see? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:36) Sorry, don't mean to accuse or anything, I'm just saying. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:36) Actually Gordon Cook said something similar here http://www.cookreport.com/icannoverall.shtml |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:37) i don't expect you to believe me. just be aware the possability exists and seek out the truth for yourself |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:37) Thanks Kendall, I was just Googling for that. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:37) Well, adam, I guess it's okay to go ahead and trust in those who will trip you on the way to the bathroom |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:37) ok - section 16B |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:37) http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/agreements/nsi-registry-agreement.htm |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:37) no that can't vint. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:37) wont pars vint |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:37) 111111211.one |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:37) duh |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:37) LOL |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:37) "NSI is adversely affected from a competitive perspective" |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:37) it says this in their app. he didn't read it |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:37) thanks Simon! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:38) .tel yet another board member owned TLD proposal? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:38) Who? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:38) Simon, you are reading that wrong |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:39) Which board member Kendall? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:39) Blokzijl, |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:39) check out http://www.tbtf.com/roving_reporter/ |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:40) Shoot, tell Cerf number hijacking occurs now in 800! |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:40) Sample basis? ! |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:40) in what way MmmCow? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:40) (B) If within a reasonable period of time ICANN has not made substantial progress towards having entered into agreements with competing registries and NSI is adversely affected from a competitive perspective, NSI may terminate this Agreement with the approval of the U.S. Department of Commerce. In such event, as provided in Section 16(A) above, the Cooperative Agreement shall replace this Agreement. |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:40) wonder what that really is, adam.. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:41) Ray, it says "If within a reasonable period of time ICANN has not made substantial progress towards having entered into agreements with competing registries and NSI is adversely affected from a competitive perspective" |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:41) and someone moves or changes phone numbers... |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:41) that's what I was wondering about Leah |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:41) Depends if the number is portable or not. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:41) So far I count these boarb members -- Abril i Abril supporting .info/.site/.web/.nom |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:42) Blokzijl - .tel |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:42) we'll be flooded with numbers... gees, that's kinda scary thought. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:42) there are three .tel's |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:42) Crew - .biz |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:42) which one? |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:42) mmmcow: it is deliberately ambiguous |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:42) JVTteam |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:42) Kendall, it's not the TLD that is supported that is most relevant; it's the registry operator. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:42) Byt, they ARE making progress |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:42) but it allows a judge to overturn the ICANN agreement |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:42) Crew is also Chair of Melbourne IT, which with partner NeuStar is a Pulver/Peek .tel competitor. |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:43) therefore it leverages ICANN to "not harming" nsi |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:43) not if they can show progress |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:43) Davidson-- Group One ".one" |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:43) Netnumber - this is the one. |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:43) progress is giving nsi more tlds via consortia |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:43) no |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:43) lol |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:44) substantial progress towards having entered into agreements with competing registries |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:44) which means what exactly? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:44) it does? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:45) these proposals are getting more and more loony tunes as time goes on |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:45) I'm going to telnet into my refrigerator and call my office |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:45) bs |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:45) where's bob allisat? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:46) better use ssh2 to make sure no one hacks your steak |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:46) nextel.tel and nextel.one |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:46) lol |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:46) Why not call your fridge from the office?> |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:46) ding |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:46) -_- |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:46) i want to call my appliances by name not number |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:47) you mean like Chuck, the "Fridge"? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:47) how does this help the end user? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:47) Krisy, you mean like hubby's fridge and my fridge? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:47) in other words, you can't rust the itu but yuo can trust us? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:47) I'm going to have my fridge call the office, while I sleep in late. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:47) riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:47) They're using the ENUM spec. just a different TLD, and different policy set-up (to say the least.( |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:47) yes all that especially the chuck calling the office! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:48) vint cuts through the bs |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:48) why do you need to call your fridge? It's not like you can tell it to take the chicken out for dinenr |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:48) to thaw |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:48) maybe that's what they want, Richard |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:48) okay my home's thermometer |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:48) Yes, but its a strange question. ENUM's success whether .apra or .tel is based on existing phone numbers, not some reinvention of the wheel. |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:48) duh |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:48) no, Richard, but maybe you can tell it to stop making ice? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:48) And MCI Vint knows better too. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:49) telemarketers can talk to my refrigerator |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:49) If only it were that easy Judith |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:49) If you have any submissions on the appropriate penalty for ICANN's failure to comply with court order, email info@worldcourt4humanrights.com |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:49) it would be smarter to route your domain name (ie: Domain.com) to your phone, via a link on your page, than vice versa |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:49) It's just VOIP, phone to phone riding over the net. That's all it is. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:49) Kendall even |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:49) oy vey |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:49) that's a bit of a stretch Leah. Would my fridge get spam? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:49) only the canned stuff :) |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:49) the idea is to simplify, not complicate |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:49) Best place for Spam |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:49) I was joking, Richard |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:49) hahaha |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:50) My frig got virussed and is running around. |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:50) boy.. he sure sounds strong |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:50) the guy who just spoke. |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:50) Cheap?...not a good word to use. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:50) my fridge got a virus and turned into an oven? |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:50) Was that Jeff Pulver? |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:50) he is called 2 of 5 |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:50) oohhh a gimmick |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:50) Hey, they're gonna fit 5 peaple into 3 minutes. Anyone do math? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:51) 36 seconds each |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:51) And don't forget the court hearing continues tomorrow hearing live evidence from Marina del Rey. usual url http://www.worldcourt4humanrights.com/icanngovorder.html |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:51) My oven got virussed and filled up the house with black smoke |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:51) do you call it public discussion? I don't think so... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:51) ooooooh aaaaaaahhhhh ooooooooo |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:51) Ok, we know what they're *not* doing - what *are* they doing? |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:51) com'on guys...^___^ |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:51) monty python |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:51) um, NOT |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:52) would be funny if someone got in line behind him.. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:52) hey, this guy is welsh (I was born in wales and can recognize the accent no matter how slight) |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:52) geez |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:52) Richard, was that Jeff Pulver, speaking for .tel? |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:52) who, kraaijenbrink? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:53) uh oh, lost video and sound |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:53) :( |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:53) north or south wales? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:53) rebuffering |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:53) no, these guys talking now joop. hans is dutch |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:53) Swansea |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:53) :) |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:53) leah - they are flexable and don't need to use the cc for the second level |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:53) really? they are? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:53) isn't that what he said? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:53) YEs |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:54) Hey, folks. Do you think the Board will actually decide on the new TLD's today? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:54) no |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:54) doubt it |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:54) tomorrow |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:54) No |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:54) they already decided? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:54) first party, then sleep; then decide |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:54) not likely |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:54) Why would it not be allowed Richard - cc codes? |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:54) first people in the room tomorrow win |
| <LenLindon> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:54) Hi Joop, I must leave you to it (cyanide mine in Turkey not wanted, Australian gold miner go home)-- later. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:54) a google serch of telnic does not find them |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:55) how many more of these? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:55) before the public comment period |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:55) Four |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:55) not that much, i guess.. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:55) :( |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:55) *sigh* |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:55) i don't understand leah |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:55) if ICANN can't get the ccTLDS to fall in line they might have trouble Leah |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:55) sad..I missed the .web one.. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:55) A pity we don't get to ask ICANN questions. |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:56) well, actually you can, can't you? ...sending a note or something..if I remember it right. |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:56) Adam, if you have a question, you may submit it using the Remote Comment Submission form. Some of the comments from the online audience will be selected and read. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:56) Ken, I think ICANN has figured out the ccTLD problem. |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:56) I don't think a single of our comments have been read. Ben? RNesson? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:56) Does your dog bite? |
| <SArmstrong> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:56) there were a few comments read earrrlier |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:57) http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/realtime/ask.asp |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:57) which ones? I don't see any check-marks on the comment board. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:57) Yes, but what subject matter are we allowed post? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:57) how so Judith? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:57) Richard, many of these plans incorpoarate the two letter cc codes in the slds and 3lds |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:57) Actually Alex, we have read three comments so far. Because of the extreme tightness of time in these meetings, those running the meetings have had very little time for questions from the in-room and online audience. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:57) oh yeah. i get the impression thr GAC has told icann they will not allow this |
| <SArmstrong> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:57) actually, there were just 2...early in the day |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:57) Ken, did you observe the ccTLD meeting last night? |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:58) Hopefully, we will be able to read more at the end of this meeting. I have about 6 selected to be read at this point. |
| <SArmstrong> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:58) please send them in for possible reading |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:58) yes, I caught half of it... but, will everyone who runs a CCtld get in line? |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:58) Thanks, R. |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:58) I'll see ya tomorrow... I'll be in GD Chat for a few mins and then offline... Bye til tomorrow |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:58) Bye Asher |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:58) bye asher |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:58) Keep me posted |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:59) Andrew told them it doesn't have to consult with them, that they're contact on ccTLD's are the governments, and that if the ccTLD wants to talk with I CANN it should do so through its govt. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:59) (that's their contact) |
| <AsherTech> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:59) Info@AsherTech.Com |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:59) the ccTLD guys were livid. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:59) So was I. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:59) i bet |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 20:59) Lost sound - what TLD are Nokia proposing? |
| <YangWooKo> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:00) .mas |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:00) The problem becca, is that remote participants are always told there is no time for them. This has been true from the first icann meeting and has happened in every meeting. yes they waste time by having touton read the staff report. if they'd simply suggest people readit for themselevs - that is do their homework, the there could be actual community feedback which I suggest is more important than handholding by staff |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:00) .nokiagirls |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:00) ICANN also wants to take the "generic use" ccTLD's and make them gTLD's. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:00) alright a nokiagirl |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:00) .mas? what's that supposed to stand for? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:00) It's an idea working its way through the protocol system. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:00) Or charge them like tld's? I heard that much. No wonder dottv was PO'd |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:01) Not just charge them like tld's - impose policy etc. too. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:01) .tv is already under udrp |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:01) the commercial ccTLD's point out ICANN's uselessness... an obvious problem for ICANN. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:02) heh heh |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:02) .tv *chose* the UDRP, its not an accreditation issue. |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:02) nokia's not prepared for this meeting...hmm |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:02) no good..:< |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:02) Some of the commercial cctld's are the first accepters of udrp, I don't think that was without pressure |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:03) short names |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:03) richard, put it in the orsc root and let them experiment with it |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:03) chicken or egg..hmmm |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:03) nokia wants .one or .tel to be .mas? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:03) it was the rooster |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:03) .mobile |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:03) which one simon |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:03) Has the scribe dozed off? |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:03) whatever doesn't conflict |
| <YangWooKo> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:03) what did esther say about GAC ? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:03) no TLD for you |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:03) she won't say |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:04) scribe dissapeared an hour ago |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:04) After the other presenters is public comments or GAC |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:04) tall order simon. i'd have to find them all and I doubt any of them have nameservers |
| <SArmstrong> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:04) usually no scribing if participants have powerpoint presentations |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:04) orsc should have had a sign-up booth |
| <Simon_Higgs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:04) in the lobby |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:04) Does he know his sunglasses are there? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:04) What did she say about GAC? There was some interesting tension between ICANN and GAC at Yokahama. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:04) we "may" have public comments |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:05) adam - lol |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:05) Scribe's still there. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:05) Just that coming up was public comments or GAC |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:06) hi, i'm back, how's it going? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:06) i'm surpised the board never has to go to the bathroom |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:06) Woz didn't invent pc. GAK indeed |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:06) is this guy from novell? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:06) hi joanna - it's slow and boring |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:06) hi kendall |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:06) No. .Find etc. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:06) no steve Novell is coming |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:06) Cerf wants magic? What was the magic in MCI, other than sticking it to AT&T? This is business, not a magic show ... |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:07) It's not MCI either Judith... |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:07) thanks kendall.^^ |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:07) ICANN is alive, magic is afoot. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:07) adam? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:07) something is afoot |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:07) don't need a tld to do this |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:07) Good slap at vint |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:07) I mean, he has a point. It's just an arty-farty search engine |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:07) why are you here? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:08) go vint! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:08) Shoot, other tld's are just marketing brands. So what? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:08) this guy is on drugs |
| <YangWooKo> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:08) I agree with richard |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:08) Fair point |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:08) .DOH |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:08) That point could be made of lots of TLDs, and in fact was. |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:08) kirmit |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:08) It was clear vint hadn't read the proposal |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:08) he said it's the only one that requires a single entry in the root zone, um, they all do |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:09) But is arty-farty better or worse than marketing? Both evils iMO |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:09) what string is novell after again? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:09) .dir |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:09) .dir |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:09) staff saod |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:10) staff said pass |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:10) as in fail |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:10) So let's settle this...Did gore or vint invent the internet... |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:10) Neither |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:10) DARPA did |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:10) neither |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:10) yup |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:10) bob khan developed most of the protocol |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:10) Vint just made it better. Still flawed, but better |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:11) vint wrote a small part of tcp - that's lal |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:11) Sorry, Vint AND Bob. My mistake. |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:11) Vint added to it |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:11) and who dreamt up the DNS? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:11) Sorry Bob. :) An oft made mistake |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:11) i know this one...hold on |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:11) no, bob defined the protocol and addresing. vint worked on a small part of the tcp in tcp/ip but bob did ip. see "When wizards Stay up Late_ |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:11) Paul Mockapetris |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:11) Why's Vint wearing headphones? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:11) And who took over the DNS? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:11) paul invented dns |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:12) vint is deaf |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:12) That's right |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:12) That's it....gary beat me to it.. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:12) sri took over dns |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:12) Is he? I didn't know that |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:12) what about public coments? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:12) then government servces inc which became nsi |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:12) they won't have time |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:12) Esther said we "may" get to them.. but I doubt it |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:12) he's not completely deaf but pretty close |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:12) How convenient... |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:12) ding |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:12) darn.. the connection's givin' me real hard time.. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:13) the comments that is, not vint |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:13) this guys voice is not well suited to public speakig. he sounds like a clown or something |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:13) You will all be famous....In a few months do a google search...on Vint... |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:13) LOL |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:13) everybody loves LDAP! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:13) lol |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:13) dns is a subset of ldap |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:13) RNesson: How's about those public comments? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:13) you can do a google search on almost anybody and get lots of hits. |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:14) dns is a directory ;-p |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:14) what's that? |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:15) a bunch of cable? |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:15) I heard dot geo might get the nod...might settle the Barcelona.com problem :) |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:15) Hey, cheerleaders |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:15) TIO |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:15) won't be surprised if he start doing high kicks..;> |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:16) Gimee a G! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:16) oh no...cyberspace |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:16) oh yes, marketers will love this |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:16) shh i'm trying to eat and you guys have me choking on it...lol |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:16) geographical spam generator |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:16) that's a horror! |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:16) then the black helicoptors swoop down |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:17) the prop demonstrates how the spam will exponentially increase |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:17) 'coz you've been mapped |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:17) Maybe that's why ICANN likes it ... sounds like it has a Big Brother element to it. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:17) Yeah right Esther! |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:17) made esther smile |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:17) she likes that huh |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:17) Benefit ICANN more like |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:18) what is he looking at? |
| <YangWooKo> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:18) yet another directory ? |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:18) This is one of the Berkley guys isn't it... |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:18) ICANN would love this to put the at large members in regional straightjackets |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:18) "To create technology for the benefit of mankind" - I hate that - people who quote movies dialogue |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:18) beserkely |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:18) Stanford |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:18) this guy has more props than Carrot-top? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:18) yes! |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:19) is SRI an entertainment co.?I |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:19) vint wants them to use echelon... |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:19) Stanford Research Institute |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:19) This GEO project is interesting...I wonder if the feds are involved.. |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:20) the light go ons! |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:20) tag everyone and log their DNA |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:20) Gac still meeting... |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:20) you-are-here.geo |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:20) a bunch of us talked abuot this. we can't find any reason why this would work as a business model |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:20) you're not a spy richard |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:21) (i hope) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:21) big deal, NSI has 16M names on one server |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:21) I hope Chris is first in line.. |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:21) RNesson: Public comments time!! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:21) Do you know my Boston Terrier puppy came with a chip installed under his skin so I could find him if stolen? |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:21) Ester now says G A C, not "gek" |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:21) Judith, both my dogs have the ID chip |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:21) Are we next? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:21) that's cause the last time she said GAC people thought she was choking and have her the Heimlich manouver |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:21) i have a cat like that judith, but i shipped him from england |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:21) now it's going to ge interesting - public comments - one minute - not good - means people will be harder on them - less time |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:22) so i just hope he doesnt get lost...lol |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:22) first kids |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:22) Peter Girard writes for afternic |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:22) this guy is running rings around vint |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:22) Interesting that the scribe notes precede the audio. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:22) this is Gerrand, not Girard. |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:22) he has a brown nose |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:22) maybe this whole thing's pre-planned...judith..(--) |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:22) Gotcha |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:23) TO ICANN: I have submitted a comment I would like read aloud at the meeting. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:23) Please give at least a sampling of the remote audience a chance to be heard, too. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:23) Go Weinberg! |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:24) Here, here! |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:24) Weinberg for President.. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:24) ask the same question that Ambler asked in Yokohama! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:24) lol |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:24) Ken, what did he ask? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:24) Give us a share in that 50k windfall |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:24) that'll close the meeting |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:25) Why did the NC ignore WGC's recommendation for 6-10 TLDs and go with a lower number? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:25) Esther is so dismissive ... |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:25) They haven't named a number, so to speak |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:25) Ken, I worked on WG-B, they ignored what we said too ... |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:26) i love this woman - a real bell |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:26) What is that bell that keeps ringing? |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:26) ken - in order to give nsi the new tld |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:26) The bell tolls for the time |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:26) It goes when your time is up Judith |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:26) ah ... |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:26) lol judith |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:26) do they hear that too? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:26) :P |
| <SArmstrong> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:26) bell = one minute alert for public comments |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:26) check out http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/scripts/rammaker.asp?s=cyber&dir=icann&file=icann-071400-fixed&start=4-23-44 and fast forward to 4:21-25 to see it |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:26) she always wears head gear - i like women with good head gear |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:26) why is it the US responsabillity to make the net multilingual |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:27) because the canadians are already bi-lingual |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:27) hey, here we go |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:27) Reminds me of Bella Abzug, former US Congresswoman ... |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:27) yes the Individual domain name owners that is most all of us. |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:28) Where's RNesson with our comments? |
| <baptista> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:28) yes - i like the strong look - and the presentation - a woman who can stand up and who's very prescense say - hey i'm here |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:28) From: "Marsh, Miles (Gene)" <MarshM@diebold.com> |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:28) To: "'richard@vrx.net'" <richard@vrx.net> |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:28) Subject: that was ugly |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:28) Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:22:42 -0500 |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:28) Tonight, I drink. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:28) Gene... |
| <bob> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:28) .com was an accident |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:28) Ben and RNesson, will any of us be heard? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:28) some accident |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:28) Ask why Ken Stubbs has so many conflicts of interest? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:28) realnames doesn't have any vested interest do they? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:29) yea, in RealNames! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:29) In replacing gTLDs |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:29) Ask why the other board members had conflicts of interest? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:29) Walt Disney Co? |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:29) that's what I heard |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:30) ICANN has a conflict of interest policy.. why don't the supporting organizations (ie the Names Council) ? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:30) These names don't appear here ... |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:30) Transslation: realnames should be the only generic tld |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:30) that's what I was wondering about.... |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:30) realnames is lame |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:30) in every way |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:31) -- I'm missing realnames?? |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:31) R, thanks for starting to read our comments. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:31) Right on Michael |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:31) go mike |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:32) Froomkin is great. |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:32) great points..... |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:32) I agree Michael! |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:32) he's got the right point |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:32) When is ICANN going to acknowlede a non-commercial individual domain name owners constituency? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:32) boy you guys are like 2 minutes ahead of me. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:32) yj just started talking for me |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:32) I'm psychic |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:32) Michael's good. |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:32) Richard, read the Scribe instead. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:32) froomkin rocks! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:32) Froomkin just finished |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:32) Go, Michael! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:33) Leah, remember I told you the SBA is a good group to work with ... |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:33) I know... but I like his opinion |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:33) here comes Karl |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:33) right on sba!! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:33) oh goody |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:33) I also agree with SBA's stance on sunrise |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:33) darn- im way behind... no scribe notes |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:33) Very Good. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:33) no sunrise! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:34) my scribe notes have stalled too |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:34) Interesting. As an ip attonrey, I agree with SBA's position. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:34) and there's a woman? oriental with glasses in my vid???? |
| <KevinAllen> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:34) wow SPEED up fast |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:34) SBA's Advocacy has been very support in both 800 and .com. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:34) supportive |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:34) oops, it was crispin ...saw the beard, thought it was Karl. |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:34) same here marcia |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:34) oh well |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:34) you are seeing a lag Marcia |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:34) crispin set vint straight anyway |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:34) what does Michael look like? |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:34) Judith, how come you have never looked at the idno as a membership org? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:35) heh heh guess who wrote the sba opinion background |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:35) yes..it's pretty easy |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:35) michael has a beard and bow tie |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:35) I haven't looked at any particular organization ... who's got time?! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:35) i'm seeing him on vid now |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:35) Joe, did you submit a comment? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:35) Richard, you know Eric Menge? |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:35) The hear Crocker talk about distraction and intimidation.. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:35) but crocker in scribe |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:35) yes jude |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:35) We could use your perspective in IDNO, Judith |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:36) crok |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:36) I'll be happy to drop by (Dennis and Joop.) |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:36) what a kiss ass |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:36) heh hehm good questions |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:36) Richard, Eric is very helpful. Glad y'all are speaking. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:36) kent makes a good point. he's actually quite good when he's not being, um, not quite good |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:36) The welcome mat's out, Jude. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:36) $16,666 actualy |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:36) ya |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:37) Hey Judith...you should co-author a book with Ellen... |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:37) :) |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:37) RNesson, can you sneak in more of our web-submitted comments? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:37) Oh for gods sake... |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:37) Ellen writes pretty damn good on her own. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:37) I hope Chris is in line |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:37) Here here! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:37) god forbod the dns be extended |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:38) Register.com is such a suck-up ... I've no patience for it. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:38) Then where did all that money go? |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:38) Jude -- you've got the advocate voice of all time! |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:38) yea Rebecca! |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:38) Yayyy Judith! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:38) Ya |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:38) elective representatives - there's a good idea! |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:38) where's the answer? |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:38) there should be minimum technological standards set...and that's it. The rest of this is baloney |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:38) yea Judith! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:38) Thanks Dennis. I'm just your - ah ...! |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:39) Yea ...wey to go.. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:39) So they''re just going to listen, and respond to what suits them yes? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:39) Grrr! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:39) $50K for 3 minutes is $138 a second |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:39) So, I don't get an answer? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:39) They aren't giving out answers apparently |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:39) Nope, obviously not |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:39) no answer :( |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:39) $277 a second |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:39) What about Ken Stubbs and his conflicting interests? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:39) lllliiippppp service |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:39) go kendall |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:39) Judith! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:40) huh? 50,000 / 360 is 128, no? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:40) Now I'm pissed there's no answer! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:40) it's 180 |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:40) Rightly so too. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:40) what did you expect? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:40) not 360 |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:40) 3 x 60 = 180 |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:41) At least it's in the record. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:41) Leah, I didn't expect the question to be read. So thanks to whomever chose it. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:41) ben and rebecca, my scribe appears frozen |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:41) 50,000 / 180 = 277 |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:41) Ditto for me, Ben |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:41) I already have .NOT |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:42) oh, yeah, goot point |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:42) lol |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:42) I sure hope that someone puts Ken Stubbs on the spot |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:42) marcia, i suggest you should re-log on.. |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:42) what's your question kendall? |
| <LeeMickalson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:43) yeah!! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:43) Right on! |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:43) Tell em, Mark! |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:43) The scribe appears to be working fine. I am responsible both for updating the non-self-updating scribes notes and choosing and reading questions, so it gets a little more difficult to keep up while the public comment is going on. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:43) Go on! |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:43) absolutely! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:43) who is this? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:43) Scribe is working here to. Where's Drake from? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:43) rather, who was that? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:43) I want to know why he is allowed to be the NC Chair with the multitude of conflicting interests? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:43) scribe works here |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:43) how many public comments are there becca? |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) can you see it now, marcia? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) yes, system crashed and i'm back |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) Beurk! |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) Are you wondering how many people are lined up? It appears to be about 15 people lined up at the mic. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) just as IOD is a pioneer |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) Is this guy from rentacrowd? |
| <SteveLee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) that was my prob. just now..too. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) We shoulda hired one of those planes with the flying banners, to ask that question flying over the hotel for 3 days. |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) ICANN's a pioneer? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) pioneers - he brought up a good term for them to mull over |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) no, i was wondering about how many offline remote comments there are |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) RentaCrowd ... that's good ... |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) Until NSI gets control of the registry NSI should not be allowed to make any money |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:44) ive reentered a couple of times... i still have no scibe notes |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:45) scribe |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:45) make that ICANN sorry.. |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:45) RNesson, how many more comments will you attempt? |
| <DeniseNiber> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:45) ahhh- just got some : ) |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:45) Kendall, I have asked it, but not specifically non-commercial. Individuals tend to start non commercial, but then discover commrce.. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:45) lost both vid & scribe |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:46) I am a member of the IDNO http://www.idno.com Joop... I wonder why ICANN will not recognize individuals? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:46) Who's Langenbach with? |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:46) Kendall, i sent a question |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:46) joker.com - core |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:47) Ken, its idno.org ... |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:47) Hi Kendall, my feed was disrupted.. They do not want the customers to self-organize. It will reduce the value of registry business. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:48) Afilias mouthpiece |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:49) Rebecca, will you have a chance to read more on-line comments? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:49) At last someone brings up the UDRP |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:49) Karl Auerbach is in line... about 6 people back. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:49) Joop, I just joined. |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:49) Oh sure, you can't tell a 12-year old's website!!! |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:49) Hi Judith |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:49) cool Lonny |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:49) is Ambler? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:49) Esther: Five more comments. :) |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:49) BECCA: how many remote comments are there in the queue |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:49) I was wondering (re Karl.) |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:49) lol adam |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:50) Ambler is siting next to me |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:50) Or do you mean you joined the IDNO? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:50) he's not getting in line? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:50) Yes, the IDNO. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:50) tell him to get his @ss in there! lolol |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:50) MmmCow, what would you have him say that hasn't already been said? |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:50) Well, at the very least, I picked up lots of URL's to research in the morning. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:51) I'm sorry for the bad URL .. I have http://www.democracy.org.nz/idno/ bookmarked |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:51) Welcome!! A pity that our nominations just closed a few days ago. I would have loved to have you on the execom. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:51) about 20, Richard |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:51) how about correcting the financial information from the slides? |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:51) and any other errors he feels need addressing |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:51) Anyway, please join idno-discuss, which functions as our GA |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:51) He did it in his presentation... |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:51) I think I did. |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:51) I second Joop's too-late nomination! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:52) Palage is concerned about rights being abridged? |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:52) mmm, That is what the 3 minutes was for - If he does then the others will have to as well |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:52) Jude -- except when it involves his working group! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:52) lol |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:53) he didn't really do it, lonny |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:53) truly! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:53) he kinda implied it |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:53) Next time, Dennis. Anyway , we will need a website committee too... |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:53) and directed icann to the public forum |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:53) I support the views of the SBA on the sunrise period |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:53) Applause for Eric - good deal. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:53) BS. how can he back up these assertions |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:53) his credibility is shot.. |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:53) Yes, I like to listen to the comments. Eric was good. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:54) ya, c of c knows icann but sb doesn't, as if |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:54) Really - so he's representing an ignorant constituency. Not too impressive. |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:54) mmm, we also submitted it in writting- the board knows it, we would just say it again |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:54) k lonny |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:54) :) |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:54) i have to say that i didn't hear it clearly, but i am sure the board did |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:54) nothing like donating $50k and then thanking someone to take it |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:55) I just wanted to see his handsome face again :) You guys know best |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:55) Panic stations! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:55) Karl! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:55) Sure esther, which is why you wanted no additional info from chris |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:55) non-interested party ... she got that right. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:55) Is Karl not up next? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:55) Up now |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:55) now |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:55) he just finished |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:55) Go Karl! |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) Already a board member, thank you. |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) BULL. She doesn't have the TLD, Dena does. |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) In name only Judith? |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) I wish he would say a word about DNSO review |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) YEAH!!! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) yea Karl!! |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) i LOVE him |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) sounds pretty logical to me |
| <GregoryKrajewski> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) That is why he was elected!! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) I want it noted that I agree with the comments given by Karl Auerbach |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) scribe missed his point about conflict |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) Too late, well, last chance that Rebecca will read out my on-line comment |
| <MmmCow> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:56) pardon my overenthusiasm |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:57) I was expecting more to be honest |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:57) Rebecca, please submit my or another comment |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:57) lol ... |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:57) Go Rebecca. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:58) What is VOV? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:58) Karl reaffirms my faith in the @Large Membership |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:58) BLESS you Karl |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:58) Karl will need organized support. |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:58) Yay Chuck!!!!!! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:58) Welcome to ICANN, neo.colonialism |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:58) He certainly has TLDlobby behind him |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:59) Voice Over something Judith? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:59) and ICB, I'm sure |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:59) I know, Leah, but I am talking about organizing the massive @large membership |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:59) Leah - supportive Karl? - you bet |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:59) Yes,! |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 21:59) Joop - might be an idea. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:00) Have you seen http://www.icannmembers.org/ Joop? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:00) Yea Richard! |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:00) Yea Richard!! |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:00) yes. That is a beginning. Karl and Johannes Chiang are organizers |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:00) heh. now read part II please Becca |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:00) Damn, lost scribe for Rich |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:00) Sunrise sucks! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:01) look at rhge real video archive at 7:11 pst |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:01) no sunrise! |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:01) no sunrise |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:01) Indeed |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:01) (please) :-) |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:01) DON'T YOU DARE --- THAT'S A LIE! NO TRADEMARK APPLICABILITY AT ALL!!! |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:01) Ya, thx. |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:01) I think that is going to be all for online comments for this evening. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:01) Richard! |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:01) As an IP attorney, I think UDRP and sunrise are unfair: they overvalue trademarks compared to domain names. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:01) NOW I'm mad ... really mad ... |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:01) Requiring a Sunrise is not within the realm of ICANN's technical duties |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:01) Where do I place the citation to show Palage for the lier he is? |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:02) How convenient that the Board is still not confronted with DNSO reform |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:02) aw c'mon becca, the poeple in the room got to talk multiple times. palage spoke 5 times. we don't have a MINUTE for more comments?? |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:02) Alex, -- "overvalue?" |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:02) I would like answers .. not just questions. |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) The Board avoids answers as much as possible |
| <RNesson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) We are already very late into the evening. Even if some people got to comment more than they should have, I am not inclined to bend the rules on that. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) you'll be lucky to get a question in - forget answers |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) Well, it's 3am here - I'm off. Nice meeting you guys. |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) was that Peter Dengate Thrush' vouice? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) go peter |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) nite adam |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) Yeah!! |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) goodnight beecher |
| <DennisSchaefer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) Joop, yes |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) bye adam |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) How delayed is my video? Right now Matt Hooker is speaking |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) richard - you're welcome :-) |
| <adambeecher> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) tata all |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:03) mine is delayed too... |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:04) Ah, the ccTLD's want 1/3 of the Board |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:04) because the discussion here doesn't synch with what I'm seeing |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:04) ok, well becca, it seems inequitable that there has been 57 minutes of comments from the room and 2 and a half minutes for remote comments |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:04) !! |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:04) I agree Richard |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:04) yo uhave to quit real and restart it to keep in sync |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:05) oh. I did that yesterday and could never reconnect. How far behind am I? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:05) no just stop it (don't quit) then play |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:05) Yes, the revolt of the APTLD's was prepared in Auckland last week |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:05) APNIC says so sorry |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:05) yuo couldnt rconnect y4syerday becase ben removed the link. you can kill and restart now. I just did |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:06) ok, stopped and restarted, whole new speaker |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:06) LOL, you can't just create an asset by writing an invoice. That's a keeper. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:06) magic isn't it? what happens is, real drifts over time and lags. It lags about 3 minutes an hour |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:07) Gosh, I was probably hours behind |
| <LonnyRollins> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:07) oh my! the CCtld guys just hreatened to walk and start their own root!!! |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:07) alright, the hint of revolution |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:07) "look elsewhere for root service" |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:08) deserves a repeat |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:08) that's been a threat sine berlin. things have never been so bad though that it has been told to the board |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:08) 'look elsewhere for root servers' |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:09) Richard, do you know that the APTLD meeting actually mentioned going alternative, as a last resort? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:09) ty - Marcia |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:09) wow |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:09) Peter the Blanc is hinted at it too |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:09) typo hinting |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:09) hehe |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:09) yes, that thought has been around since Berlin where I first heard it |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:10) dontcha love it? |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:10) I wonder if the decision of .web will be the deciding factor? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:10) deciding of what , kendall? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:10) my feeling is yes |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:11) whether people trust ICANN or whether they want to form and Alternative Root |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:11) I felt my comment was important and needed to be read |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:11) gee whiz...rough day at the office |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:11) Esther forgets us of course |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:11) Kendall, there is no need to form any other roots, although they can. There are already roots to use |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:11) The altenate system will grow in proportion to ICANN's democracy deficit. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:11) Ya |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:11) with root servers in place and running well |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) who said it yesterday,,,,no longer alternate...augmented root |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) love that term |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) And ICANNs growing power and control |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) right Leah... but, if people become alienated by ICANN and NSI they will demand change.. look at Milosovic |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) might start living by it and advocating it |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) that was me, Marcia |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) thank you again leah |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) "the stability of the Internet" |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) Michael Palage stated that toll free 888 is a precedent for trademark protection in the DNS. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) sure, Kendall and we're ready for them |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) On the contrary, the FCC ruled in In the Matter of ) CC Docket No. 95-155 Toll Free Service Access Codes ) FOURTH REPORT AND ORDER AND MEMORANDUM OPINION AND ORDER Adopted: March 27, 1998 Released: March 31, 1998 that "Although we recognize commenters' concerns regarding trademark infringement and unfair competition, we find that those issues properly should be addressed by the courts under the trademark protection and unfair competition laws, rather than by the Commission." |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) welcome, Marcia |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) change it to 'the ability of the internet' |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:12) I know I am |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:13) alright with me - what do you think Judith? |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:13) we need to point out to them tomorrow that for every hour of comments from the room a minute is sent on remote comments. It wouldnmt kill thwem to rad all the public comments and put the shoe on the other foot and maybe not lwet 1 or 2 people ion the room speak. How would it go over if 16 people lined up to speak in the room and the listened to 4? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:13) just lost the feed completely |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:13) i lost it too |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:13) Kristy, about what? |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:13) av feed gone, guess we don't get to watch the party |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:13) lost scribe too |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:13) the ability or stablity of the internet |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:13) lost it too |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:13) video gone |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:14) Isn't it peculiar that our great DN advocate, WXW is never here? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:14) I think the greatest risk to the stability of the internet is (a) ICANN and (b) Mike Palage. |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:14) RNesson, did you quit? |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:14) Not necessarily in that order. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:14) hhahah, maybe he's really jeff williams |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:14) Maybe he is Joop? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:14) instead of ICANN worry about the stability, they might just want to watch the ability - with augmented root s |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:14) worrying |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:14) no two different voices |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:14) two different telephone prefexes |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:15) what about two different telephone prefixes? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:15) but where is JW anyhoo |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:15) Yeah, Jessey thinks that he is a second personality of myself.. |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:15) typo Jefsey |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:15) well, i'm outta here. so long folks. c u tomorrow presumably |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:15) Kristy, what are you asking about? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:15) goodnight richard |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:15) good night richard |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:15) good night richard |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:15) Nite, Richard. |
| <Richard_Sexton> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:15) l8r... |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:15) See you all, folks. Think about organizing |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:15) Judith we were teasing about WXW and JW not attending |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:16) oh |
| <JD> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:16) Judith , What was ICANN answer to your Comment about the collision of tld's? |
| <KristyMcKee> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:16) have a good night all! |
| <JoopTeernstra> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:16) Ben and Rebecca, thanks for running this facility. A pity that none of my on-line comments were read. |
| <DenaWhitebirch> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:16) I didn't hear answers JD...it seemed like they just read the question. |
| <JudithOppenheimer> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:17) I got no answer. Is the scribe still here? |
| <JD> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:17) No I am late I went to the comments section |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:17) Thank you Ben and Thank you Rebecca -- I appreciate you providing me with eyes, ears and a voice |
| <RayFassett> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:18) anyone care to make any predictions? |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:18) Yes, thank you Ben and Rebecca. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:18) Ray, no. |
| <KendallDawson> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:18) Good night all... see you later. |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:18) Prediction: no-one gets web this time |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:18) Good night Kendall. see you tomorrow |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:18) thank you Ben, Rebecca |
| <Jung-KiChoi> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:18) good to talk to you guys..(oh, this is Steve Lee, my com's down). |
| <Jung-KiChoi> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:18) night, all. |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:19) good night steve lee |
| <GaryOsbourne> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:19) outta here, keep fighting the good fight |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:19) you too gary, good night |
| <joannalane> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:19) goodnight |
| <DotComs> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:21) night all, thanks for the entertainment |
| <MarciaArbott> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:22) good night everyone. see you in the morning ;) |
| <MikeThomas> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:27) it's over? |
| <Leah-TLDlobby> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:34) Nite Ben, Rebecca. Thanks for everything. |
| <AlexFloum> (Wed, November 15, 2000 at 22:35) Thanks Ben and Rebecca. |
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