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| <CraigS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:18) I'll be back. |
| <daveW> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:24) Hello |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:24) hello dave |
| <CraigS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:24) Hi folks |
| <daveW> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:24) This is David Wurtz from Liquid Silver Technologiesa |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:25) Charles Nesson, from Berkman Center, in the room |
| <daveW> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:25) what are you guys looking to get out of ths meeting? |
| <daveW> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:25) hey charles |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:25) a sense of where the candidates stand, and of importance for the election |
| <LeahG> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:26) Have you tried to vote yet anyone? |
| <daveW> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:26) I see, when exactly is the election over? |
| <LeahG> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:26) Evening Ben. Haven't seen you since Yokohama :) |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:26) I think the last day to vote is Oct. 10th. I am not exactly sure though. |
| <LeahG> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:26) yes, becca. 10th |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:27) You could check by clicking the icann website link in the bottom right corner of your screen. |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:27) Ben is running around like a dervish hooking stuff up |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:27) does anyone here have a preference on a tld they would like to see added? |
| <CraigS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:28) Hi to Ben, Charles, and Jeanette... and I think Becca, people I recognize from meatspace. |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:28) a gTLD, like .WEB but am disgusted with IOD's position |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:28) leah, why is this? |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:28) and do you think ICANN will use .web but not under iod? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:29) IOD had promised that the only way a preregistered dn holder would lose domain was via court order |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:29) He has now said he will suspend names which are challenged |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:29) I don't know. He has first use and it would be rotten to do so |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:30) I'm just not happy with his renegging on his domain name holders |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:30) hm..i've contact Chris Ambler, seems like he knows where he's headed |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:30) leah...do you own a .web domain? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:30) Sure he does. Anything to win |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:30) no I don't |
| <eric> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:30) About to start |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:30) yeah....hes might not be interested in the better of the wbe |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:30) but he sure knows he wants to get rich |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:30) :o) |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:31) David, that's my take. |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:31) I'm not getting video |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:31) only audio |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:31) leah...its nothing special :o) |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:31) but I wanted to see them |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:31) Put a face to the name |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:31) have you got video now? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:31) now |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:31) no |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:31) Hans Klein |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:32) when are the tlds supposed to be anounced? November 10th? |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:32) If you are having trouble with the video feed, please go to the techhelp chat to get help. We'll try not to deal with the tech problems in here. |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:33) Everyone who is having trouble may want to try getting in by going to <http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/groupchat/manual> |
| <bethanyR> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:34) quick tech question - i'm getting audio but no video... |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:34) what do you guys think of .kids? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:35) error when using that hyperlink |
| <TuyetAt-large-memberT> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:35) If elected, how will you involve at-large-member in the process of policy changes? - whoever wishes to reply, thank you. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:35) leah...take off the tagging '>' |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:35) Bethany, please go to the tech chat for tech help instead of discussing it here. |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:36) Also, try http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/groupchat/manual. If you don't get there by clicking on it, open a browser and type it into the address bar. |
| <TuyetAt-large-memberT> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:36) Ben - no video here. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:38) eric....please |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:39) In the lower right hand corner of your screen you will see a link for tech help. if you are having tech trouble, please click that link. |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:41) What issues are most important to you in choosing which candidate to vote for? |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:41) Have you made up your mind already? |
| <RobertH> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:42) preservation of individual and organization access; almost decided unless influenced further. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:43) addition of generic domain names. little restrictions |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:43) I'm a fan of .web personally |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:44) preservation and strengthening of the at large representation in icann |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:44) I have voted my slate |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:44) I agree with charles...the say of the people is very important |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:44) There are several issues which are important to me... |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:45) UDRP is totally inequitable, individual domain name holders are unprotected and have no voice, ICANN is too powerful |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:46) and trademark holders own the throne |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:46) Scope should be kept narrow |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:46) IP and business own ICANN |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:46) and domain holders should be given more rights against trademark holders |
| <TuyetAt-large-memberT> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:46) I support a continuing and strong representation of at-large in icann - |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:46) trademarks do not even fit the internet model - unique names vs. multiple uses of tm's |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:46) would you revise the UDRP, or junk it? |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:47) i like the idea |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:47) ICANN must establish "members" in bylaws |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:47) so I say revise |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:47) UDRP could work, but should not be ruled by ICANN and needs to be completely rewritten |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:47) people are registering domains like www.sex at a trademark office so that if .sex comesout they wll have acesss to the domain |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:47) is this fair? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:47) no |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:48) what do you guys think of Preregistration |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:48) domain names should not be trademarked |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:48) www.icannvote.com is _very cool |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:48) no... |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:48) preregistration is silly |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:48) .web is a trademark of iod |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:48) what do you think of this. |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:48) It won't be recognized |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:48) do you think ICANN is going to recognize pre-registrations? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:48) .web is not tm'd |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:48) or start from scratch? |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:48) .web is owned by IOD! |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:48) they could not get the mark and court said no |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:49) really? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:49) is not tm'd though |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:49) that was what the court battle was about |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:49) ahh |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:49) they are appealing |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:49) I think |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:49) what happens to the money pre-registrants have paid if the application does not succeed? |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:49) i thought that was about personal busineses trademarking thier own .web domains |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:49) they lose it |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:50) charles..you don'tget it back |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:50) that was in the registration agreement |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:50) Personaly, I think IOD will get .web |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:50) so why isn't pre-registration a kind of consumer fraud? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:50) non refundable |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:50) charles...the fees paid for the application fee |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:50) there was full disclosure |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:50) a 'hefty sum' |
| <eric> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:50) I'm insterested to hear whether this webcast format works for those online |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:50) it was great in Yokohama |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:50) leah.... what do you mean? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:51) I participated via webcast at the meetings. It was really good. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:51) ah..I missed it |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:51) Gave us a chance to ask real time questions, etc. |
| <RobertH> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:52) are you seeing the full website with video? |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:52) what do you guys think of the alternic scandle? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:52) what about it? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:53) I'm using the G2 player |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:53) Robert, if you are having tech problems, please click on the link for tech help in the lower right corner of your screen. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:53) leah..you don;t think its funny? |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:53) Please, no tech in here. |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:53) funny how? |
| <RobertH> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:53) I got all working except camera feed is whiteout... |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:53) There was little that was funny |
| <RobertH> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:53) ok |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:53) Robert, please no tech in here! |
| <RobertH> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:53) ok |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:54) whats form shopping? |
| <nobody> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:55) forum shopping -- going to the arbitrator you believe will give you the best result |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:55) ahh..thanks nobody :o) |
| <DanH> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:55) Corinthians decision: <http://arbiter.wipo.int/domains/decisions/html/d2000-0461.html> |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:56) the Corinthians.com decision was so rediculous that it should be a notable fiasco |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:56) it is going to court |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:56) how about tonsil.com |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:56) lol |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:56) that was just as stupid |
| <nobody> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:56) (and for trademark holders, that gives pretty full shelves at the market, since the arbitrators have to sell their services to complainants) |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:57) a nurse has a medical site vs a German tm |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:57) they get the name, saying it's a famous mark |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:57) what determines a famous mark? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:57) you tell me |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:57) I'm not sure |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:58) it would have to be universally accepted as a household name for one thing... |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:58) and not be able to be used as anything else, such as cocacola |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:58) hmmm |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:58) but should only be allowed as an exact mark |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:58) would javascript be a famous mark? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:58) for instance, Ford would not apply |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:58) no |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:58) how about shockwave |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:59) javascript is now descriptive of a function and language |
| <nobody> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:59) it's still a fairly recent addition to US trademark law -- suddenly applied in gross to domain names |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:59) so netscape wouldnt have rights over it? |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:59) Do you think that famous names and cybersquatting are more in the spotlight in the North American region than elsewhere? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:59) no - shockwave is not known much in India or China |
| <ModeratorBecca> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:59) If so, do you think the NA region representative should pay special attention to it as an issue? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 19:59) No, Europe is now really involved, as is China, Italy, and many others |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:00) leah...but are these your opinions or the de facto |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:00) David, for the most part, it is de facto |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:00) See the archives for the working groups |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:00) ICANN claimed a consensus where there was none |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:00) Barbars Simons asks a good questin |
| <nobody> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:01) The concept of trademark fair use needs to be greatly expanded, if the rights claimed by trademark holders are ballooning as they seem to be |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:02) Trademarks will cause more problems as time goes on unless it is curbed now |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:03) yes. |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:03) Don't forget that tm's were supposed to protect the consumer, not the tm holder |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:03) i think trademark and domain names should be seperate |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:03) they should be and most people agree on that. |
| <nobody> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:03) they were even less conceived of as "property" than copyrights (about which see yesterday's Lessig-Valenti debate) |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:04) I would go for a couple of TLDs for tm's |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:04) yes...but some should be left open |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:05) all but special tld's should be either open or chartered for specific activities |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:05) anyone can post Microsoft Sucks signs all over New York City, why shouldn't they be able to do this on the web? |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:05) like .bank / .banc |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:05) However, the tm tld's should also preclude tm claims in all other tld's |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:09) The internet definately needs new tlds. it seems ICANN is off topic |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:10) ICANN has been off topic since the board seated itself illegally |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:10) how did this go.....? |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:10) the power was taken from IANA? |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:10) what were they doing wrong? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:10) IANA has not really existed since the formation of ICANN |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:11) IANA was jon postel's personal creation. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:11) yes.. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:12) more rights to consumers...less to trademark holders! |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:12) It's not a matter of rights to TM holders. It's a matter of how it is or is not applied to the DNA |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:12) It doesn't fit the DNA |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:12) oops DNS |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:12) lol |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:12) maybe both! |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:13) :o)....do you think the UDRP will be revised |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:13) Not if the present board remains intact |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:13) and maybe some cybersquatters will not be considered that anymore |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:13) but this election will help things |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:14) David, if you really think this so-called election will have any force, I think you had better wake up from your ddream |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:14) We may be lucky enough to have one director elected that is member oriented |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:14) you don't think the new board members will change policy? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:15) No, there a minority if all are elected |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:15) hm.. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:15) so the UDRP will remain intact |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:15) there are 18 board members - five will be at-large... |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:15) thats not a very high percentage your saying? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:15) and of those only very few are non ICANN chosen |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:15) not enough |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:16) can't hurt :o) |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:16) If Karl Auerbach is elected, he will demand that records be opened |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:16) and willmake a lot of noise for us. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:16) I like Karl. |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:16) He's the man we need |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:16) leah...what are you trying to get out of this though...there must be a reason |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:17) are you looking for new tlds for a business? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:17) He's a bit of a loose canon some times, but a good advocate for dn holders |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:17) or are you just interested in the web |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:17) and its direction |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:17) I have a TLD in the ORSC rootzone. It will not be an ICANN TLD because I would not apply under these conditions |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:17) when will this election be completed? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:18) I am interested in the web worldwide |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:18) leah..mind telling me the tld? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:18) I don't want it to be owned by commercial interests. It's too vital |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:18) but without ICANNs support the tld cannot be very effective |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:18) .BIZ .NPO, .NGO |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:19) very cool |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:19) That depends on whether the cooperating root systems become popular |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:19) I run a country code |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:19) :o) |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:19) which one |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:19) hmm |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:19) .ls <lesotho, for liquid silver technologies> |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:19) we include all existing non-colliding TLD's |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:19) how did u setup your registry system? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:19) what country is it attached to? |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:19) Lesotho |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:20) kewl |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:20) http://www.liquid-silver.com |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:20) We hope to manage a couple of ccTLD's soon, but we'll see. Cant' reveal too much |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:20) what are you using as the registry system? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:20) what do you mean? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:21) software? |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:21) yes |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:21) are you running it yourself |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:21) proprietary and in alpha now |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:21) or with a companies help |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:21) very cool |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:21) little of both |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:21) cool |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:21) where ya from? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:21) will have it automated and up and running very soon |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:21) VA |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:22) close. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:22) NY here |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:22) Building an ISP and related stuff in GA soon |
| <DennisS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:22) Ben, I just submitted a question. Is it too late? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:22) brb |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:24) what reactions to the event so far? |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:24) what are your reactions to the event so far? |
| <nobody> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:24) great combination of online offerings :-) |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:25) back |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:26) k |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:26) I think it's interesting to see the personalities of the candidates |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:26) its very cool. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:26) gives you a feeling on whats happeneing |
| <DennisS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:26) Hi Leah, I've really enjoyed reading your posts in the GA |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:26) whats the agenda like for icann |
| <Dalie> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:26) very interesting -- a little hard to tell which candidates is speaking (small name plackards) |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:26) Hi Dennis, I've posted a lot, :) |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:27) You should read what's on TLDlobby.com |
| <eric> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:27) Ben knew the name placards were small. To fix next time. |
| <DennisS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:27) They're good ones, Leah. (I was just at this forum, but had to call it an evening.) |
| <eric> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:27) Opinions about the moderator? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:27) It's a good forum. Wish I could be there |
| <DennisS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:28) Did you hear Harris square off with Lessig before? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:28) No, was busy chatting |
| <DennisS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:29) Harris termed Lessig's statement "Nonsense". |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:29) I missed that |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:29) hmmmm, not a good attitude |
| <rickW> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:29) ben, a better question than how to fund ICANN is: "how can ICANN get others to participate for FREE, rather than paying folks to work on projects/staff positions." |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:30) moderator should simply ask questions and keep order |
| <DennisS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:30) Didn't win points with me -- but then I'm biassed. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:30) new tlds should be auctioned! |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:31) It has to be more than that, DAvid |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:31) who could enter the auction? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:31) Me? you? |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:31) it would solve the money problem |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:31) How do you show you can properly run a TLD? |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:31) but put the tlds in the hands of a fortune 500 company |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:31) no way! |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:32) do you think iod is doing a good job |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:32) ? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:32) no |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:32) explain.. |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:32) registration system doesn't work well for one thing |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:32) he should also have made those domains live |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:33) what do you mean by live |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:33) The names should have been registrations, not pre-registrations. The TLD resolves to the ORSC root zone |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:33) It should hve been populated. |
| <rickW> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:33) lyn, you are proposing a tax for a record in a root dns server; Think back about a tea party in the 1700's |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:33) hmm |
| <rickW> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:34) emerson you forget all the IAHC debate on auctioning and lotteries. review you history |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:35) rick, fill some of us in |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:35) I posed a question I'd love to see them answer |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:35) ..what was that |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:36) the one about recognizing first use and colliding tld's if IcANN should choose an existing TLD which resoolves in other roots |
| <WendyS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:36) You can view all the submitted questions from the link in the lower right hand box (and submit from another link there) |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:36) you can read it in the qustion list |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:38) number 971 I think |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:38) i c |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:38) There are only 10. I hope they read them |
| <bethanyR> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:38) i just posted this question and i'd like to hear your thoughts on it, too: how can icann maintain legitimacy if it doesn't have the mandate of multiple governments? international organizations such as the un that do have the backing of most of the world's countries have a hard enough time. do you see icann pursuing a un-type (or form) role with respect to the internet or do you see icann as completely separate from individual governments? what would need to be done to ensure that your visio |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:39) ya think they'll get to them |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:39) dunno |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:39) this ends in 10 minutes? |
| <WendyS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:39) all will remain in the online archives in any event (and that will perhaps encourage the candidates to respond) |
| <WendyS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:39) Has anyone used the Q and A forum on the ICANN membership site? |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:39) good point wendy..but it would be exciting if they discussed it live..now |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:40) we have some mail list forums set up for the regions. You can find the list on TLDlobby.com |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:40) wendy..it seemed dead |
| <TuyetAt-large-memberT> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:40) yes - but some questions aren't posted b/c noone answers |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:40) the Q&A is censored and only those with pins can access it |
| <WendyS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:40) that's sad |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:40) They censored the very question I posted here |
| <TuyetAt-large-memberT> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:40) I've asked two questions at the Q&A but only one was answered. |
| <charlesO> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:41) just joined. can someone help ID the candidates a little |
| <charlesO> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:41) who is the guy attacking barbara simons? |
| <bethanyR> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:42) the guy speaking is larry lessig, stanford law prof |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:42) hes funny |
| <WendyS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:42) (not the one who was attacking Simons, though) |
| <charlesO> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:42) thanks. larry wasnt the one I was referringf to |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:43) karl is the man |
| <bethanyR> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:43) the guy who believes that icann is generally pretty good in its current incarnation is harris miller |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:43) Karl has the gray beard |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:43) miller is absurd |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:43) he was picked by ICANN, wonder why |
| <TuyetAt-large-memberT> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:43) agree |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:43) lol |
| <charlesO> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:44) tnx |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:44) The four candidates who agreed to participate in our mail list forums are Auerbach, Leggis, Simons, and Tiller |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:45) oops again, Lessig |
| <DennisS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:45) Bethan -- great question! |
| <bethanyR> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:45) thanks - lyman chapin started to answer it inadvertently if you read his last post |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:45) Chapin is nuts |
| <DennisS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:46) Bethany--unfortunately, I'm not following what they're saying up there. Audio/video problems. |
| <bethanyR> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:46) can you read their postings? |
| <DennisS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:47) Bethany- yup -- now I can!!! |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:48) go Karl! |
| <Dalie> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:48) who's talking now? (also a beard, but shorter) |
| <DennisS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:48) Ben is doing an incredible job of transcribing this! |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:48) Lyman Chapin is speaking |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:48) He's and ICANN mole |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:48) he's for IP interests |
| <bethanyR> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:48) it seems that the mutual authentication karl is talking about could lead to something scary where in order to "truly" or at least effectively authenticate, so much personal info may have to be shared that rather than protecting people it may make individuals more vulnerable due to the relative ease of hacking |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:49) is the icann site down? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:49) bethany, that's not what he was trying to say |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:49) leah, here's your question |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:49) :o) |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:49) leah... |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:49) congrats |
| <DennisS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:50) What is TIller talking about? Last time I looked, arbitrators had no guidance about which jurisdiction to emulate in a multinational case. |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:51) He sure doesn't know what he's talking about |
| <bethanyR> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:51) leah - then can you explain his point to me? i just offered a potential side effect if mutual authentication isn't handled properly |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:51) ahh! |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:52) they didn't answer the question |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:52) bethany - listening..... |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:52) no they did not |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:52) bethany, he was saying that when you type in a URL you are not sure that you are getting a specific company or person. |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:52) Lyman seemed to say he'd give them a postitive presumption |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:52) Once you see the site, you know if you got the right one |
| <bethanyR> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:53) oh, i see. thanks |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:53) that's the authentication |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:53) i'll see ya later! |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:53) bye david |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:53) nice chatting with you all |
| <charlesN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:53) thanks, all, for participating, seeya |
| <DennisS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:53) Leah -- I was astonished during the first event: everyone but Miller seemed to be saying ICANN needed serious reform. It wasn't until they started talking about the UDRP that you began to get the idea they didn't really mean it. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:53) leah.. |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:53) email? |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:53) jandl@jandl.com |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:54) or ldg@tldlobby.com |
| <DennisS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:54) Leah and all -- keep the faith! Later. |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:54) nite dennsi |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:54) i'll keep in touch |
| <David> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:54) bye! |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:54) good |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:54) bye |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:54) Thanks Ben for another good job |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:54) Thanks becca |
| <WendyS> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:55) Thanks to all the planners and participants! |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:55) when will the scribes notes be posted |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:55) and the log from chat? |
| <TuyetAt-large-memberT> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:55) Thanks Ben and everyone - |
| <Dalie> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:55) Ditton. Thanks Ben and Becca, I didnt' have to get out of bed to watch this =) |
| <Dalie> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:56) bye all! hope some of you will be at the MIT session tomorrow... |
| <LeahGTLDlobby> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:56) wish I could. I'm in VA |
| <Dalie> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 20:58) leah - sorry about that, i don't think it'll be live but they might have a webcast later... |
| <WilliamN> (Mon, October 02, 2000 at 21:36) is anyone there? |
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