Talk:Future of Wikipedia

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We welcome external participation in our wiki. We are already grateful for the contributions people have been doing especially in the sorts of problems Wikipedia is facing. We have been reading some of the comments some people are making about our course and we would like to have everybody's help giving feedback on some of the ideas we had to address the problems listed.

Our first challenge is to pick a manageable set of problems to work. If we don't focus we run the risk of not achieving anything by trying to solve too many issues. Tonight and tomorrow we'll be posting our ideas of what issues we'd like to tackle and what the potential solutions would look like. Your feedback here would be more than welcome.

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Academic Reflections on Wikipedia

  • Cummings, Robert E. (12 Mar 2009), "Are We Ready to Use Wikipedia to Teach Writing?", Inside Higher Ed. Online.
  • Jaschik, Scott (26 Jan 2007), "A Stand Against Wikipedia", Inside Higher Ed. Online.
  • Lih, Andrew (16 Dec 2009), "Ron Livingston, Growth, and Wikipedia". Online.
  • Matetsky, Ira (May 2009), "Thoughts on Wikipedia", The Volokh Conspiracy. Online.
  • Schumacher, Mary Louise (30 Apr 2009), "Deconstructing Wikipedia", Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Online.
  • Wilson, Mark A. (01 Apr 2008), "Professors Should Embrace Wikipedia", Inside Higher Ed. Online.


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Lay Questions for Scholars Concerned with the Role of Law in Society

The Law of any given Land is frequently out of sync — now leading, now lagging — the collective common sense of what it takes to constitute a just society. With that in mind, let us address the questions of justification:

  1. What is and what should be the obligations of interactive media site owners and interactive media site participants toward their fellow citizens, toward the larger communities of inquiry from which they derive their justification, and toward the world at large?
  2. It is possible to debate the current dictates of the Law at great length — this has already been done at great length and will no doubt continue to be done at even greater length. But the ordinary citizen in danger of becoming roadkill on the Internet Autobahn will be concerned with the broader horizon, longer haul issues of where the Law is bound to go if it is designed to achieve and maintain a just society.

Freedom of Speech, False Witness, Truth in Advertising

Legal and Social Justification for Tax Incentives

Unsafe @ Any Speed?

  • Need to consider the very real possibility that Wikipedia is an inherently defective social-technical product that cannot be fixed by any means even remotely feasible given the present conditions of its existence.
  • Technical infrastructure needs to be improved

Critical Reflective Self-Study and Institutional Research?

  • The difficulties, if not impossibilities, of continuous quality improvement in a system that is hostile to critical feedback and resistant to the principles of learning organizations. It would be possible to make a very long list of previous efforts along these lines that have been aborted or gutted by the prevailing dynamics of the Wikipedian subculture.
  • If crowdsourcing is so great, why does the Wikimedia Foundation need to hire professional strategic planning cum public representation agencies like the Bridgespan Group to do its institutional research?

The Laborious Way That Decisions Are Made?

  • Process vs. Substance

Newbies? Editing Interface

  • Is maintaining a higher complexity level in the editing interface a mechanism for quality control? (e.g. users needs to be at least nominally computer literate to be able to edit/operate within wikipedia)
  • Breaking through the glass ceiling - how can newbies be encouraged to contribute?

Online harassment or defamation problem in Wikipedia?

  • Ron LIvingston v. Mark Binmore
  • Star Wars Kid
  • ReputationDefender
    • Maybe this is not a problem of Wikipedia, this is a problem in the internet generally

Getting Educational Institutions to Explicitly Participate

Just be sure to read all the comments, too.
From the standpoint of the purpose identified in the Cummings blogicle, I question whether teaching students how to succeed in Wikipedia's dysfunctional rhetorical environment, or learning Wikipedia's preferred style of authorship, which is difficult to distinguish from organized, sanctioned plagiarism, is of any benefit to students or to teachers. Wikipedia also has a tendency to be resistant to such efforts; I recall several instances of students having been assigned to edit Wikipedia and subsequently being blocked on the grounds that their assignment created a "conflict of interest" (a term of art within Wikipedia's idiosyncratic jargon which means something other than what an ordinary person would think it means). Kelly Martin 17:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
  • so "Partnership" was thrown around incredibly loosely
  • Getting students to flag hotspots (see flagging proposal)
  • Getting students to learn about how projects like Wikipedia work
    A proper study of how Wikipedia works, and more importantly how Wikipedia fails, could possibly be of interest for students in social psychology, abnormal psychology, political science, marketing, and other related fields. Marketing people, especially, should be very interested in learning how to exploit Wikipedia more effectively. Kelly Martin 17:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
    • Clarifying how not to use Wikipedia
    • Addressing institutions' views on sources, primary and secondary
    • Addressing Wikipedian's concerns on newbies
      A recent attempt at a quality control study (the "NEWT project") on the treatment of editors perceived to be newbies by managers of Wikipedia's speedy deletion process was met with strong disapproval by the community. Wikipedia's community actively resists efforts, either internal or external, to examine its internal processes and behaviors, except when the purpose is clearly structured from the beginning to be adulatory.
  • Keeping in mind all of this: Wikipedia school and university projects

Using Wikipedia references within your article

Hi,

I am an editor at the english wikipedia as well as on commons. Appreciate your initiative. Was just wondering whether you should not use references to wikipedia articles. After all, the pedia being a work in progress cannot be a reference for the future of wikipedia article. At least for me, it creates a 'philosophical problem' if both the future of wikipedia and the pedia itself are both editable. :)219.64.70.28 10:54, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

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