Re: [dvd-discuss] Microsoft Lies About Donating Computers

["Michael A Rolenz" <Michael.A.Rolenz(at)aero.org>]

If you get a donated PC what is the easiest way to deal with it. Format 
all hard drives, 
reinstall OS from a standard image so you know what drivers/files are on 
it..
It's a very clever weave of truths, half truths, and a couple of lies?.

Not being too paranoid I interpret this well crafted piece as Microsofts 
attempt to subvert the settlement. By scaring enough schools into not 
accepting donations, they become dependant upon Microsoft's donations and 
Microsoft can cry at the DoJ "But we are being good" Comments below






Seth Johnson <seth.johnson@realmeasures.dyndns.org>
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04/29/02 11:19 PM
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<Now if between Microstupid word and BLOATUS the formatting doesn't get 
totally messed up>

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>Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 18:01:09 -0400
>From: "Peter D. Junger" <junger@samsara.law.cwru.edu>
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>Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:27:36 -0400
>From: "Peter D. Junger" <junger@samsara.law.cwru.edu>
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>Subject: Microsoft Education > Accepting Donated Computers
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>A Guide to Accepting Donated Computers for Your School
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>The  decision  to  accept or decline an offer of donated
>computers for your  school can be complicated. There are
>many important questions to ask, including:
>  * Will  the  computer  run  the  software that your school
>currently uses?
>  * What  is  the  cost of integrating the hardware into
>your existing networks?
>  * Will your teachers or students need additional training
>to use the computer?

All true.

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>If  you  feel  it is in the best interest of your school to
>accept the donated  PCs,  make  sure  that  the  hardware 
>donation  includes the original  operating system software.
>Keeping the operating system with the PC is not just a great
>benefit - it is a legal requirement.

Half truth...note the scare after giving you some good advice.<skillfully 
done> If they are running 2000, a 95 license if of no benefit but legal?

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>Questions and Answers
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>Q.  Why  should  a  donor  include  the operating system
>with their PC donation?
>A.  It  is a legal requirement that pre-installed operating
>systems  remain  with  a  machine  for  the  life of the
>machine. If a company  or  individual  donates  a machine to
>your school, it must be donated with the operating system
>that was installed on the PC.

Nicely done..The scare now becomes a threat with a BIG 
Lie. NOtice the "pre-installed" by whom...OEMs aren't providing all the 
documentation now... The machine can be donated without software. We 
routinely donate our used PCs to schools and law enforcement agencies WITH 
software. They buy the licenses in bulk. Last I heard the OEM license for 
Office95 is about $10/machine.

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>Q.  What  does  the donor need to do to donate a PC with the
>operating system?
>A.  PC  owners  have  to transfer their license rights to
>the operating  system  to your school along with the PC.
>They may do so as specified in their End-User License
>Agreement (received at the time of purchase) as part of a
>permanent sale or transfer of the PC.


NICE bundling argument! The OS goes with the machine ad infinitum without 
upgrade! DeJa Vu...didn't IBM pull this on in the 60s and had the courts 
rule against them?

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>Q.  How  does  the  PC  owner  transfer  their  license
>rights for the operating  system?
>A.  The  following  should  be  included  with the donation
>of the PC.
>  * All  copies  of  the  software  on  original disk or CD,
>including back-up and/or recovery materials
>  * Manuals and printed materials
>  * End-User License Agreement
>  * Certificate(s) of Authenticity
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But many OEMs aren't providing all this now are they...even MS 
doesn't...NOW consider all the bug fixes and upgrades that people have to 
download from MS...they are not part of all that now are they?

>Q.  What  if  the  donor  can't  find  the backup CDs,
>End-Use License Agreement,  End-User  manual  and the
>Certificate of Authenticity? Can they still donate the PC
>and operating system?
>A. Microsoft recommends that  educational institutions only
>accept computer donations that are accompanied  by  proper 
>operating  system documentation. If the donor cannot 
>provide this documentation, it is recommended that you
>decline the donated PC(s).

Now that you are thoroughly scared let Uncle Bill give you some good 
advice.

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>Q.  Can  I  upgrade the operating system on a donated
>machine?
>A. Yes, once the machine and installed operating system is
>transferred to your school  or  institution  you own the PC
>and the licensed software. You can  upgrade  via  Microsoft 
>Academic  Licensing  Programs: Microsoft School 
>Agreement    Subscription,    Microsoft   Campus   Agreement
>Subscription,  Microsoft  Academic  Open or Microsoft
>Academic Select. Contact  your  preferred  Microsoft 
>Authorized Education Reseller for details.

Upgrade? Whatever happened to site licensing or bulk licensing...but 
you've got to have all the useless material

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>Did you know...?
>If  your  school  has  a  Campus  Agreement  Subscription 
>or a School Agreement  Subscription,  and  you  receive  a
>donated computer with a properly licensed operating system,
>it's automatically covered by your agreement.  That  means
>you can install the Campus or School Agreement software on
>the donated computer at no extra cost.

OH boy...Uncle Bill is being so generous...Now what's the terms of the 
settlement?


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