Re: [dvd-discuss] How many bits is a technical protection measure?

[microlenz(at)earthlink.net]

Juries are used in civil cases...I was premptory challenge number one on a 
malpractice case about 10yrs ago. Surprisingly the lawyer on that panel was 
not...

IANAL but yes that seems to be it. Tell us now if what we are doing is "bad" if 
not then we can continue doing it without penalty. If it is...then we can 
appeal and be nice about it.

OTOH...consider this..this goes against them. THey appeal. Appelate court takes 
its time about things and several years pass. "P"s were really nice about 
accepting the lower courts verdict. They stopped and found other work to pay 
for the appeal. Appeal successful. COurt rules that that the lower court was so 
full of it that they can't see why the SFBs couldn't rule properly. Company is 
out of business-too late-no new products-start up costs high. No reason to 
invest in something that may not win and legal fees have exhausted 
capital.....MPAA etc have won. THeir intent was not to creat a legal 
vindication but economic devistation. That's game theory....odd that the most 
useful application to Society of game theory may not be economics but an 
understanding of how the legal system can and will fail if the judges let 
themselves be manipulated...

On 24 Apr 2002 at 21:16, Charles Ballowe wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 07:07:22PM -0700, microlenz@earthlink.net wrote:
> > 
> > BTW - I noticed in the 321Studios case they want a jury trial.....probably 
> > wise..
> > 
> 
> I didn't think they used jury trials for civil cases? maybe i missed 
> something, but isn't their case basically a "we want you to guarantee
> that our actions are legal so you don't file charges against us later"
> type case.