RE: [dvd-discuss] NYTimes.com Article: Google Runs Into CopyrightDispute

[Noah silva <nsilva(at)atari-source.com>]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Dean Sanchez wrote:

> If the copyrighted material was sent along with the ad and the link, I
>would agree.  However, as only a link was sent and not the material, I
>see no ethical reason for not including the ad.  Else we go down the road
>(which a number of sites are trying to do) of stating that linking to a
>copyrighted site without permission (as search engines also do) is a
>violation of copyright.

I can't even believe anyone even considers this or has to think about it
for more than 1 second.  It's the equivilent of me saying "If you want to
mention the name "Noah's Tire Shop", you have to include in your sentence
", by the way, they have a great sale on tires, buy 3, get 1 free!".

They put the web site up, why? so people would visit it, right?  So if I
am sending them a visitor, they should be happy, not try to tack on
conditions.  What's more, if they don't want visitors, they shouldn't have
a web site.  

I can see how a site wouldn't want to have all it's material plagerized,
but even prohibiting linking to pictures and/or stylesheets, etc., is
shaky at best.  

If you are using a technology that you know allows certain things to be
done, then I think you are waiving your right to prevent those things from
happening.  If you odn't know how the technology works, you shouldn't be
using it.

 -- noah silva 
 
> In addition, here is another thought for the group.  Let's follow the
>expansion of automatic copyright to an absurdity.  The process of my
>creating an email account should grant me automatic copyright to the
>written address.  If my email address is valuable (otherwise why collect
>it) and even if it isn't, the only person that should be able to engage
>in offering my email address in exchange for remuneration (access to
>copyrighted material) should be me.  Direct marketers should not be able
>to use my (copyrighted) email address without licensing the right from
>me.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arnold G. Reinhold [mailto:reinhold@world.std.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 8:52 AM
> To: dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
> Subject: Re: [dvd-discuss] NYTimes.com Article: Google Runs Into
> Copyright Dispute
> 
> 
> Noah is correct. I did click the "email this to a friend" link and 
> didn't realize an ad would be included. But that raises an 
> interesting ethical (and legal) question.  Like most on this list, i 
> am strongly opposed to the enormous widening of copyright protections 
> and the resulting abuse of power.  It seems to me that part of that 
> fight should be to encourage responsible use of copyright. When a 
> content creator, like the New York Times, makes its material 
> available on the Internet for free and provides a mechanism for 
> forwarding that material via e-mail at the price of including a small 
> ad, then perhaps their behavior should be rewarded and we should 
> respect their wishes that the ad be included  when the material is 
> disseminated.
> 
> Arnold Reinhold
> 
> 
> 
> At 1:58 PM -0400 4/23/02, Noah silva wrote:
> >Probably this is one of those "email this to a friend" type links on the
> >web page that doesn't mention it will be emailing other things as well.  I
> >never actually used those because... I didn't find it that cary to copy
> >and paste a URL.
> >
> > -- noah silva
> >
> >On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Steve Bryan wrote:
> >
> >> At the risk of appearing hypersensitive, why are we being sent an
> >> advertisement in e-mail? If sending a link to an article requires that
> >> it be accompanied by an even greater mass of advertising, please don't
> >> bother sending the link. I don't mean to imply everyone must behave
> >> according to my whims, I only intend to express my opinion which I
> >> suspect might be held by many others.
> >>
> >> > On Monday, April 22, 2002, at 10:37  pm, reinhold@world.std.com wrote:
> >> >
> >> > This article from NYTimes.com
> >> > has been sent to you by reinhold@world.std.com.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > /-------------------- advertisement -----------------------\
> >>
> >
> 
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