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Re: [dvd-discuss] RE: [DVD-discuss] Dion's new CD crashing party for someusers
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- Subject: Re: [dvd-discuss] RE: [DVD-discuss] Dion's new CD crashing party for someusers
- From: "Michael A Rolenz" <Michael.A.Rolenz(at)aero.org>
- Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 12:25:39 -0700
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Your last paragraph rather sums it up....UCITA, DMCA, and all that really
are attempts by corporations to abridge due process . Now to be honest I
do not believe that the officers of most corporations see it that way but
"the road to Hell is paved with good intentions"...or in this case less
honorable ones-preserving corporate profits.
"Dean Sanchez" <DSanchez@fcci-group.com>
Sent by: owner-dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu
04/09/02 09:46 AM
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Subject: [dvd-discuss] RE: [DVD-discuss] Dion's new CD crashing party for some
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(Tongue-in-cheek comment follows)
Even though this is just a case of being punished for having the
questionable taste of listening to Dion (ouch!), we have lost sight of
what Congress obviously intended and that was to protect the intellectual
property of corporate copyright holders from evil hackers (i.e. citizens).
Corporations must have the right to hack systems; otherwise, those evil
hackers (can you say customers?) will listen to the music on unauthorized
systems and do all kinds of other things (be innovative, maybe?) that they
shouldn't. Skip over commercials (how dare they?), make rip cds that
consist of only the songs they like (artistic integrity demands that you
listen to it all!), etc.
(END of TIC)
Seriously, what do you think Direct TV has been doing for years? Take the
case where it sent a signal that not only disabled the ability to decrypt
the any further signals, but actually damaged the personal physical
property of someone else. Whether you agree or not that decrypting the
signal is ethical or unethical, intentionally damaging another's property
(which is what DTV does) is definitively not ethical and is illegal in
almost every other instance. That is a vigilante action; this type of
action should be reserved to the justice system penalty phase after due
process.
However, this is not the only instance where the government is looking to
'delegate'. UTICA strives to give software vendors the authority to
remotely shut off systems thereby possibly creating business and system
damage. It also has a goal of indemnifying the vendor from any product
liability.
There is a consistent pattern in all these actions. It's fairly obvious
that the Copyright Industry's goal along with Congress' complicity is to
allow the IP holders/owners to have the ability to do things that is or
would be illegal for ordinary citizens (and corporations) to do and would
normally be reserved to the justice system. Congress has seen fit to
criminalize an action (copyright infringement) that deserves only civil
sanctions and action. It then allows the alleged victim the right to
impose, without due process, the penalty that in itself should be a
criminally prosecuted action. Please pardon my cynicism, but while I see
it as an abrogation of the courts' and governments' responsibility, do we
really expect the courts to deviate too much from the stance that it's
okay for the corporations to do whatever they need to do in order to
protect IP?
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Hartman [mailto:hartman@onetouch.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:20 AM
To: 'dvd-discuss@eon.law.harvard.edu'
Subject: RE: [dvd-discuss] Dion's new CD crashing party for some users
The court does not have to "extend" the law ... they're covered
as the law is written. If the court interprets the law otherwise,
that interpretation should be appealed.
--
-Richard M. Hartman
hartman@onetouch.com
186,000 mi./sec ... not just a good idea, it's the LAW!